Tentacruel Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 Remember that case where the guy shot the guy with the hoodie and the skittles? Well, that guy has been found not guilty. This is relevant because this is the kind of case that people will riot about because they don't understand the legal system. That guy is definitely gonna have to relocate. Anyway, discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eury Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 Meanwhile, the Chicago murder rate has exceeded the death toll in Afghanistan. And the vast majority committed by black people. But yet, not a peep from anyone. Double standards, double standards everywhere. Fawking race card, its bullshit. Like, black people think they're entitled to things just cause they're black. No fuck you, you're not entitled to shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 I...have no problem with this. Love how MSNBC has wasted no time summoning the likes of Al Sharpton and some stock black woman they keep for topics like this to opine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Exodia Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 Thank you, Jurors. All six of you found Zimmerman not guilty. Fawking race card, its bullshit. Like, black people think they're entitled to things just cause they're black. No fuck you, you're not entitled to shit. It only happens that way because they were oppressed up until, well, they still technically are. But everyone oppresses each other because of a disposition that cannot be controlled by anything except love (Because of... i'm not going to explain). Riots were going to happen either way. The verdict does, though, decide the type of riot which will transpire, and the people who will partake within them. I agree, though; Zimmerman will have to relocate or hire security. Which, at the moment, he probably cannot do either. The trial probably ruined him and his family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 But yet, not a peep from anyone. Double standards, double standards everywhere. Fawking race card, its bullshit. Like, black people think they're entitled to things just cause they're black. No fuck you, you're not entitled to shit. _____ I'm glad my mother raised me to have the class to not spin every inconvenience into an issue related to my race. And, it's not always that we feel entitled to things. In many cases, the black person knows how to play the game, and white people are just easy to guilt when it comes to black people, and the ones who don't ride the White Guilt Express are labeled racists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 I honestly don't care either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerlinX Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 I like how people riot over a man walking free but not the NSA spying on millions of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Exodia Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 I want to riot on the NSA, not Zimmerman. Snowden may have almost screwed up the world, but he gave the US a wake-up call But the media twists everything to such a point that it makes the story about guns connected to murder more important than leaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Honestly, I didn't realize this was still going on until recently. I'm sick and tired of the media swooping down and obsessing over certain cases. Even if the people are declared innocent, then their lives are forever affected and damaged. Because the media ALWAYS portrayes the accused in a horrible light, and people assume that the media is right, so they hate the person who wasn't even proven guilty yet. It's sick, and a horrible misuse of the legal system. Okay, rant over..... for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Not surprised, just kinda of bothered by the fact that he disobeyed a direct order from officials telling him not to follow, he does it anyway, and still gets protected by hold your ground. That's bullshit IMO, people can't just decide to become rouge cops without accountability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted July 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Not surprised, just kinda of bothered by the fact that he disobeyed a direct order from officials telling him not to follow, he does it anyway, and still gets protected by hold your ground. That's bullshit IMO, people can't just decide to become rouge cops without accountability. And he completely overstepped his place by doing so, but there's still not enough evidence to suggest he killed Treyvon in cold blood like all the ignorant whiners are claiming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 When you still watch CNN and those bullshit media spots for your world news, shit's bound to be misinterpreted and just terrible. Meanwhile, the Chicago murder rate has exceeded the death toll in Afghanistan. And the vast majority committed by black people. But yet, not a peep from anyone. Double standards, double standards everywhere. Fawking race card, its bullshit. Like, black people think they're entitled to things just cause they're black. No fuck you, you're not entitled to shit. This. As a black male, I say this occasionally. If you want something, go fucking get it. Slavery ended a long time ago. So stop acting like everything is impossible and get off your ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 And he completely overstepped his place by doing so, but there's still not enough evidence to suggest he killed Treyvon in cold blood like all the ignorant whiners are claiming. No it's not, no one really knows except Zimmerman what really happened that night, but what we do know is that he put himself in that situation. The fact that he ignored authorities, followed Trevon, and got out of his vehicle carrying a gun that he isn't suppose to carry as a neighborhood watch, means that he intended to act against him, and he should be charged for that. Again, we can't have people pretending to be cops without accountability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted July 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 No it's not, no one really knows except Zimmerman what really happened that night, but what we do know is that he put himself in that situation. The fact that he ignored authorities, followed Trevon, and got out of his vehicle carrying a gun that he isn't suppose to carry as a neighborhood watch, means that he intended to act against him, and he should be charged for that. Again, we can't have people pretending to be cops without accountability. Absolutely, but right now we have people comparing this case to the one 50+ years ago where a black man was tortured, murdered, and disfigured because he was accused of flirting with a white woman. Treyvon's family's lawyer said that this was of the same magnitude. And you have clowns like Al Sharpton spreading racism and trying to get people to riot against imaginary racial suppression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Absolutely, but right now we have people comparing this case to the one 50+ years ago where a black man was tortured, murdered, and disfigured because he was accused of flirting with a white woman. Treyvon's family's lawyer said that this was of the same magnitude. And you have clowns like Al Sharpton spreading racism and trying to get people to riot against imaginary racial suppression. Well yeah, media and Al Sharpton and his crew were all ready to jump as soon as he was found not guilty. I can't really say for sure that race was completely out of Zimmerman's thought process, I mean he did call authorities based on Trevon being black with a hoodie. Not saying that Trevon was a skinny saint, he was far from it. Of course, all of this shouldn't be the main focus, they're completely missing the point as to why Zimmerman is walking away free without any charges whatsoever. I can't say I followed the court case completely, I'm actually catching up, but the lawyer is an idiot if he approached the case that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Hi, lovelies. Let me put something into perspective for you. When the Florida police showed up at the crime scene, on whom were they supposed to do a toxicology test? Zimmerman. On whom did they actually do one? Trayvon. When the Florida police showed up at the crime scene, were they supposed to apprehend Zimmerman for a night? Of course. Did they actually? No. This was racism - not necessarily on the part of Zimmerman, but on the part of everyone else involved in this poor handling of the shooting of a teenager. The Florida state police looked at Trayvon and said, "Well, he's a teenage black kid wearing a hoodie walking around in the rain. He must be guilty." It's sad when your skin color and how you dress makes you a target for a "neighborhood watch" and makes it okay for police departments to discriminate against you. I don't want to be a talking head for liberal, sensationalist media, but if you think this case was totally independent of racism, get your facts straight. I think it was improper for the prosecution to label this as a racial shooting (not because it wasn't, but because it was too difficult to prove), but that doesn't mean people talking about the racial tension in this case are loons. At the end of the day, according to all the evidence, Zimmerman followed Trayvon after being told by the police operator not to, and claimed that his life was in danger. I don't think he met his burden of proof in court - there are too many gaps in his story to make me believe that he had the right to shoot. I understand "innocent until proven guilty," but this has absolutely nothing to do with that. We know he's guilty of shooting someone - he'll admit that, himself. But the defense had to prove to the jury that, unequivocally, Zimmerman shot in complete self-defense when his life was, in his eyes, in danger. And if I were on that jury, I would have questioned all the gaps. How did Zimmerman go from following Trayvon to walking back to his car? Why would Trayvon attack Zimmerman first if Zimmerman did start walking back to his car? Is it not reasonable to reach for someone's gun in fear that someone will shoot you? I think this case was poorly handled by the prosecution. But don't you dare say that this wasn't a race issue. This quote really hits the point home: "Imagine if Zimmerman were black and Trayvon were white. We wouldn't even be discussing this trial, because the Florida state police would have shot Zimmerman on the spot. He would have been presumed guilty, just like Trayvon was." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 http://politicalblindspot.org/george-zimmermans-old-myspace-surfaces-full-of-racist-statements-and-admissions-of-criminal-activity/ Well, I've had my laugh for the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrise Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 My issue about the whole case is that it's blown way out of proportion, when it doesn't need to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Hi, lovelies. Let me put something into perspective for you. When the Florida police showed up at the crime scene, on whom were they supposed to do a toxicology test? Zimmerman. On whom did they actually do one? Trayvon. When the Florida police showed up at the crime scene, were they supposed to apprehend Zimmerman for a night? Of course. Did they actually? No. This was racism - not necessarily on the part of Zimmerman, but on the part of everyone else involved in this poor handling of the shooting of a teenager. The Florida state police looked at Trayvon and said, "Well, he's a teenage black kid wearing a hoodie walking around in the rain. He must be guilty." It's sad when your skin color and how you dress makes you a target for a "neighborhood watch" and makes it okay for police departments to discriminate against you. I don't want to be a talking head for liberal, sensationalist media, but if you think this case was totally independent of racism, get your facts straight. I think it was improper for the prosecution to label this as a racial shooting (not because it wasn't, but because it was too difficult to prove), but that doesn't mean people talking about the racial tension in this case are loons. At the end of the day, according to all the evidence, Zimmerman followed Trayvon after being told by the police operator not to, and claimed that his life was in danger. I don't think he met his burden of proof in court - there are too many gaps in his story to make me believe that he had the right to shoot. I understand "innocent until proven guilty," but this has absolutely nothing to do with that. We know he's guilty of shooting someone - he'll admit that, himself. But the defense had to prove to the jury that, unequivocally, Zimmerman shot in complete self-defense when his life was, in his eyes, in danger. And if I were on that jury, I would have questioned all the gaps. How did Zimmerman go from following Trayvon to walking back to his car? Why would Trayvon attack Zimmerman first if Zimmerman did start walking back to his car? Is it not reasonable to reach for someone's gun in fear that someone will shoot you? I think this case was poorly handled by the prosecution. But don't you dare say that this wasn't a race issue. This quote really hits the point home: "Imagine if Zimmerman were black and Trayvon were white. We wouldn't even be discussing this trial, because the Florida state police would have shot Zimmerman on the spot. He would have been presumed guilty, just like Trayvon was." 1.) Where the fuck have you been? <3 2.) I agree for the most part. ZImmerman intended to act when he got out of his car. 3.) I read that they found wounds on Zimmerman (head and nose) but were they prior to the incident is my question. 4.) Since he did get out WITH his gun, why the hell would Trayvon attack him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 I never really got into this case until my family got into it and I debriefed the summary of the case. It looks like nothing special; Murders like these happen everyday. The only thing I think that makes this case so popular and also ridiculous must be the media's look on race...but then I do note I have been tl;dr to read the above posts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Spider Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 At the end of the day it is down to race. Murder isn't self defence. Murder is murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'tyleR Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 Race card aside, he shot a kid, and he shot him because he was too pussy to actually FIGHT BACK. He was too weak and too fat to fight back against an underage skinny black kid. So he shot him. There is something wrong with that in general. Like, you can't convince me in any way that he's innocent because that situation could have gone down so different or not gone down at all. Treyvon wasn't looking for a fight. NO NIGGA IS WALKING HOME FROM 7-11 WITH A BAG OF SKITTLES IN THE RAIN BECAUSE HE WANTS TO PUNCH SOMEONE. Zimmerman started this shit and it's honestly so sad that he's released. I hope he's dumb enough not to relocate and he gets killed. I have NO sympathy for pathetic pieces of flesh like Zimmerman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 Self Defense is such a hard thing to argue against, the only other person who knows is dead. So Self Defense will always be used as way of escaping punishment. Fact remains someone died, but it could be argued he's getting punished enough by all the hate against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted July 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Race card aside, he shot a kid, and he shot him because he was too pussy to actually FIGHT BACK. He was too weak and too fat to fight back against an underage skinny black kid. So he shot him. There is something wrong with that in general. Like, you can't convince me in any way that he's innocent because that situation could have gone down so different or not gone down at all. Treyvon wasn't looking for a fight. NO NIGGA IS WALKING HOME FROM 7-11 WITH A BAG OF SKITTLES IN THE RAIN BECAUSE HE WANTS TO PUNCH SOMEONE. Zimmerman started this shit and it's honestly so sad that he's released. I hope he's dumb enough not to relocate and he gets killed. I have NO sympathy for pathetic pieces of flesh like Zimmerman. Umm.......... ANYWAY, while I don't disagree, I still think Zimmerman should have gotten tagged with manslaughter. He had NO reason to be creeping around, ARMED, looking for trouble. HOWEVER, this wasn't some cold-blooded murder of a black guy because he was black. All the people rioting are all acting like we're still in the 1800's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 Anyone else remember all those white people that rioted when OJ Simpson was found not guilty? Yea neither do I. Racial bullshit is annoying. ANYWAY, while I don't disagree, I still think Zimmerman should have gotten tagged with manslaughter. He had NO reason to be creeping around, ARMED, looking for trouble. Iirc the defense refused to go with manslaughter, it was either murder or nothing. I could be misinformed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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