~British Soul~ Posted May 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 I'm actually not writing him off. I think he is going to be important to something, but he just feels too green to a serious rival for Ash at this point. I think they are going to take his character in a different direction. Well we all have our own opinions, so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree at this point. Though I wouldn't be surprised if they gave him a character arc like Korrina and Goomy Based on Alain's involvement with Lysandre I'm going to assume when the Plasma arc happens that will be when the two really meet. Also guessing that arc will be about as long as N's which is like 14 episodes. That's what I'm thinking, though I wouldn't mind seeing the eventual Plasma arc being a couple episodes longer, I mean it's not exactly a stretch now is it? --- Moving on from that, I'm sure we're all thinking Nintendo has something special planned for Zygarde. I know a couple of my friends agree with me that it'll be in the next movie alongside Volcanion and they'll showcase some new shit that we'll see in the new games. so I know they're biding their time so they can surprise us like next year or something. I mean, it hasn't even been in the TCG yet, and once Bandit Ring comes out, apart from Volcanion, Zygarde will be the only pokemon not to be in the TCG yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 Well we all have our own opinions, so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree at this point.Though I wouldn't be surprised if they gave him a character arc like Korrina and Goomy That's what I'm thinking, though I wouldn't mind seeing the eventual Plasma arc being a couple episodes longer, I mean it's not exactly a stretch now is it? --- Moving on from that, I'm sure we're all thinking Nintendo has something special planned for Zygarde. I know a couple of my friends agree with me that it'll be in the next movie alongside Volcanion and they'll showcase some new shit that we'll see in the new games. so I know they're biding their time so they can surprise us like next year or something.I mean, it hasn't even been in the TCG yet, and once Bandit Ring comes out, apart from Volcanion, Zygarde will be the only pokemon not to be in the TCG yet.I can totally see him getting an arc like Goomy and Korrina. As I said, based on the number of episode we have left we're going to need them.That is also possible. I'm just using it as the based line since thats all I have to measure it against. The fact that it will likely bring some baggage over from the Mega Evo Specials and those involve Steven I can see it being a bit longer. On a side note, I think its also possible that Alain will show up in the main series at some point soon. Not sure what he'll be doing, but the inclusion in the intro makes me think its possible.I know a lot of people are/were expecting Thousand Arrows and Thousand Waves to be form exclusive moves for him. If they are then something is going to happen to him in the 3rd version. And yea, his inclusion in the 3rd movie seems pretty likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted May 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 I can totally see him getting an arc like Goomy and Korrina. As I said, based on the number of episode we have left we're going to need them. Not to mention we need the extra episodes so that we can get to next July for the Volcanion movie. I know a lot of people are/were expecting Thousand Arrows and Thousand Waves to be form exclusive moves for him. If they are then something is going to happen to him in the 3rd version. And yea, his inclusion in the 3rd movie seems pretty likely. It is indeed quite likely, and if Zygarde is to be included in the next movie, I'm sure we'll know either in July following the conclusion of the Hoopa movie or before the end of 2015, then they'll reveal any surprises they have planned for it around next Spring/Summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 Hey, guys, you're talking about Team Plasma over and over, but it's Team Flare who's probably going to antagonize the heroes in Kalos XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 It's basically comparative, Pchi. What they probably mean is after the Kalos League (or whatever the conference will be called in anime), it'll likely follow BW's footsteps and feature an arc with Team Flare and likely more things. By extension, we might see Xerneas again (or even Yveltal/Zygarde) if needed; most likely the first two, since Team Flare never had interest in Zygarde throughout the game. They'll likely feature Diancie, Hoopa and Volcanion by then in some parts of the standard anime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 Not to mention we need the extra episodes so that we can get to next July for the Volcanion movie. It is indeed quite likely, and if Zygarde is to be included in the next movie, I'm sure we'll know either in July following the conclusion of the Hoopa movie or before the end of 2015, then they'll reveal any surprises they have planned for it around next Spring/Summer.At the current pace the series is going at we would be at the league by next year, so the question is if they'll change it, and if they don't what they'll do with the remaining year before the next gen.Hey, guys, you're talking about Team Plasma over and over, but it's Team Flare who's probably going to antagonize the heroes in Kalos XDI feel INCREDIBLY stupid right now. This is what happens when your looking across 4 gens worth of Pokemon. Everything starts to bleed together in your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted May 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 At the current pace the series is going at we would be at the league by next year, so the question is if they'll change it, and if they don't what they'll do with the remaining year before the next gen. Considering we'll get a Team Flare arc, I wouldn't mind seeing it before the league tbh (Though it'll most likely be after the league), but yeah it does seem up in the air with what they'll do before the next gen given the current pace of teh series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Dude Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 Oh yeah, Serena's Showcase, I really hope she does better this time around. I mean... Fennekin trips. Judge: That's going to cost her a lot of points. Also, I would like all of Ash's past companions to have a reunion and meet his current ones. Who knows, maybe May and Dawn can give Serena pointers on pokemon showcases. After all, they're similar to contests right? As for Iris and Misty, maybe the former could teach Clemont to be more athletic, and wouldn't it be funny to see Bonnie and Brock competing for the heart of any pretty girl they meet. I'll bet Bonnie would propose to Misty, May, Dawn and Iris. But this is speculation, please don't take it to heart. As for Team Flare, My guess is Lysandre's revelation will be after the League, like Brit, Sakura and Flame said. As for members, standard grunts, the scientists and uh... Malva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 Oh yeah, Serena's Showcase, I really hope she does better this time around. I mean... Fennekin trips.Judge: That's going to cost her a lot of points. Also, I would like all of Ash's past companions to have a reunion and meet his current ones.Odds are she won't lose 2 in a row. In fact I'm expecting her to win the next 3.All his past female companions have made short cameos in the following series, so I'd expect Iris to show up. Thats another short story arc they can do to help fill in those 50 episodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted May 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 @Flame Dragon: If Iris does reappear, I would like to see her be less annoying (ie not call Ash a little kid). Though I suppose my dislike for Iris was more to do with the fact that her VA also voiced Kotori in the english version of Zexal. I also think Serena will win the next showcase too. Also, I would like all of Ash's past companions to have a reunion and meet his current ones. Who knows, maybe May and Dawn can give Serena pointers on pokemon showcases. After all, they're similar to contests right? As for Iris and Misty, maybe the former could teach Clemont to be more athletic, and wouldn't it be funny to see Bonnie and Brock competing for the heart of any pretty girl they meet. I'll bet Bonnie would propose to Misty, May, Dawn and Iris. But this is speculation, please don't take it to heart. This sounds like fanfic material nothing more. I'm sure other people would like to see this happen, but in my eyes it's a fantasy that would be best suited in a fanfic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 @Flame Dragon: If Iris does reappear, I would like to see her be less annoying (ie not call Ash a little kid).Though I suppose my dislike for Iris was more to do with the fact that her VA also voiced Kotori in the english version of Zexal.I kind of want to learn more about what Iris was like. I never saw DP or BW but I have a sense that Dawn was a pretty strong character while Iris just kind of existed. And was the "kid" lines a dub thing or was that present in the Japanese too? Cause if it was the bad/annoying English VA won't really fix how being annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted May 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 I kind of want to learn more about what Iris was like. I never saw DP or BW but I have a sense that Dawn was a pretty strong character while Iris just kind of existed. And was the "kid" lines a dub thing or was that present in the Japanese too? Cause if it was the bad/annoying English VA won't really fix how being annoying. The "kid" line was present in the japanese version too. When she was younger she had a 99-win streak in the Village of Dragons before losing to Drayden and she had a high view of her abilities and would call Ash a kid whenever he makes simple mistakes. Of course I have nothing wrong with the english VA at all, but if you were to watch Zexal, you'd see Kotori tease Yuma for his naivety and childish outbursts, so in a way there would be similarities between Kotori and Iris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 The "kid" line was present in the japanese version too. When she was younger she had a 99-win streak in the Village of Dragons before losing to Drayden and she had a high view of her abilities and would call Ash a kid whenever he makes simple mistakes.Of course I have nothing wrong with the english VA at all, but if you were to watch Zexal, you'd see Kotori tease Yuma for his naivety and childish outbursts, so in a way there would be similarities between Kotori and Iris.I know I've brought this up before, but of all the new series starts, BW has strongly given me the impression of being a much harder reset for Ash than between GS/AG, AG/DP, and BW/XY. Honestly, this is part of the reason I want to go back and watch the pieces of the anime I missed. I want to know how close the impressions I've gotten match to reality.Yea, I can get why that would be annoying. I did watch an episode or two of the end stuff in BW and it seems like she was on better terms with Ash. I'd assume she wouldn't be as bad if/when she came back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted May 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 I know I've brought this up before, but of all the new series starts, BW has strongly given me the impression of being a much harder reset for Ash than between GS/AG, AG/DP, and BW/XY. Honestly, this is part of the reason I want to go back and watch the pieces of the anime I missed. I want to know how close the impressions I've gotten match to reality. Yeah I also thought BW was a harder reset for Ash. Although I'm also rewatching older episodes of the anime as well, because I know there are some AG episodes I had missed and conveniently the series is currently being shown on CiTV over here. (Atm they're almost done with Season 7 and they'll be going straight to Season 8 afterwards) Yea, I can get why that would be annoying. I did watch an episode or two of the end stuff in BW and it seems like she was on better terms with Ash. I'd assume she wouldn't be as bad if/when she came back. As the series progressed, the two were on better terms, I suppose she wouldn't be so bad if she returned either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Dude Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 Yeah, Iris is a definite. And her dub name is Tori Meadows. Which I like better. And if Team Flare was to be introduced, I want Bryony to be first. No real reason other than to see her eyes behind those high tech shades. As for the showcase, I think you need 3 keys to participate in the Kalos equivalent of the Grand Festival. And I would love to see Serena battle against Aria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted May 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 We've already seen Serena battle Aria when the former's Fennekin evolved, but the fight was left unfinished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Dude Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 I remember, I just wanted to see Serena battle Aria in the finals of the Grand Showcase. But one thing in the Valerie Gym Battle, why was Kirika so hesitant to make decisions that were against Valerie's Favor? I get that it's because she can't stand st see her heroine lose, but she is a judge. Being a official judge is more important than tipping the scale in your hero's favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted May 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 Battles are even a part of Pokémon Showcases, so why would Serena battle Aria in the finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Dude Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Well, think about it. It's the perfect plot. Serena, who has wanted to be like Aria, faces off against her heroine for the title of Kalos Queen, in an official Showcase Battle. A lot is riding on this. Can she beat her? As for Olympia, I hope the writers give her more casual clothing, cause she would look like a fool walking around in public in her star dress. My opinion. As for Ash, he'll probably have a Greninja by season's end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Once Olympia shows up, she probably might get new clothes; but she won't be around for a while. It'll be likely that she'll speak in haiku or something, like she does in the game. (Might be confusing to understand her though) Depending on stuff turns out, Ash getting a Greninja doesn't sound far-fetched. Same goes with Serena getting a Delphox (and we can hopefully assume Chespin evolves at some point, since it's the only one still in base stage). ----- And yeah, you need 3 keys from each Showcase class to go on to the finals. So far, we've only seen Rookie class (I can assume the classes are identical to the ones used in Contests in-game). On another side-note, at least Shauna and those other friends in X/Y have some degree of importance. In the games themselves, you'd forget about them after a while since aside from your rival; they only battle in the Maison and nowhere else. (Although they have certain things that they do) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Dude Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 I agree. Kinda wonder if Quilladin would still be gluttonous. Speaking of gluttons, you think that if Iris does show up, would Clemont's Chespin or Quilladin try to charm Iris' Emolga? And would Bonnie propose to Iris? You guys are right,I'm thinking too far ahead. But it's hard to talk about the here and now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted June 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Yeah you are thinking too far ahead. We don't even know if Aria had to beat the previous Kalos Queen in a battle. I'm inclined to think that you don't battle at all in Pokémon Showcases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Depending on stuff turns out, Ash getting a Greninja doesn't sound far-fetched.Same goes with Serena getting a Delphox (and we can hopefully assume Chespin evolves at some point, since it's the only one still in base stage). Since XY has done a lot of things similarly to AG if Chespin does evolve it won't be for a while since Brock's Mudkip didn't evolve until near the end. Yeah you are thinking too far ahead. We don't even know if Aria had to beat the previous Kalos Queen in a battle. I'm inclined to think that you don't battle at all in Pokémon Showcases.I feel like they said outright when they were first brought up that Showcases don't have battles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted June 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Since XY has done a lot of things similarly to AG if Chespin does evolve it won't be for a while since Brock's Mudkip didn't evolve until near the end.j Yeah, Mudkip didn't evolve until Season 9, well into the Battle Frontier I feel like they said outright when they were first brought up that Showcases don't have battles. In that case, I must've overlooked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Yeah, Mudkip didn't evolve until Season 9, well into the Battle Frontier In that case, I must've overlooked it.I could be wrong. If you want to double check I'd assume it would be brought up in the first part of the Summer Camp arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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