Progenitor Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 To set a baseline. I'm sure no one here remembers the very first tier list that the Brawl Backroom put out, but it was actually garbage. Sometimes you just need to test the waters, and considering it's the 2nd to last patch it was a decent time to see what the community thought so that the 1.1.4 list can be as accurate as possible. A lot of this is from the forum post. the link is actually at the bottom of the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 So what time of day will the new DLC release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Ganondorf still rocking it at the bottom. I'm surprised by a few things, such as Dedede being so low and Toon Link being higher than Link, but everything seems agreeable to me.Toon Link is better than regular link because he's infinitely more maneuverable and faster overall, with just about the same amount of power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 To set a baseline. I'm sure no one here remembers the very first tier list that the Brawl Backroom put out, but it was actually garbage. Sometimes you just need to test the waters, and considering it's the 2nd to last patch it was a decent time to see what the community thought so that the 1.1.4 list can be as accurate as possible. A lot of this is from the forum post. the link is actually at the bottom of the picture. They could do that an not release it publicly. Again, the games been out for over a year and we've made due without a tier list so far. Another couple months wouldn't hurt. I'm hesitant to call the update today the last one. For characters, sure but I can see us getting one MAYBE two more balance patches down the line. The picture isn't working for me. :/ I just googled the list to see where everyone stood. So what time of day will the new DLC release? They haven't said. My guess is sometime mid to late day. If I were to guess a number, I'd say 7 pm EST the latest for the characters to go live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Saw this on KYM: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Saw this on KYM: I'm more hyped for Bayo. Corrin will be just alright but will never be as cool as the scale-tipping Robin gameplay-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 They could do that an not release it publicly. Again, the games been out for over a year and we've made due without a tier list so far. Another couple months wouldn't hurt. You can't really get feedback from the community if you don't actually show it to the community can you? I'm hesitant to call the update today the last one. For characters, sure but I can see us getting one MAYBE two more balance patches down the line. Sakurai has confirmed that his team will not be actively working on balance after this update. The only other patches that come from this point forward are things that either need to be fixed IMMEDIATELY (such as bugs and exploits), or, if Smash 4 DOES get ported to the NX, we might see some tweeks with an update for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 I'm more hyped for Bayo. Corrin will be just alright but will never be as cool as the scale-tipping Robin gameplay-wise. I'm honestly pretty excited for Corrin. I REALLY like that he is so different from the rest of the FE character. I mean Robin is the only substantially different one over all. Having another character that really mixes up the standard FE stuff is cool. You can't really get feedback from the community if you don't actually show it to the community can you? Sakurai has confirmed that his team will not be actively working on balance after this update. The only other patches that come from this point forward are things that either need to be fixed IMMEDIATELY (such as bugs and exploits), or, if Smash 4 DOES get ported to the NX, we might see some tweeks with an update for that. You can get feedback very easily. People have been making tier lists since the game came out, just none were the official backroom one. You don't need the actual list publish to get the players thoughts one where X character is on the overall tier list. Anyway, its not like this is causing any harm by existing, so its not like its a bad thing that its out. I just find it poorly timed given the info we had. That is slightly disappointing, but I guess they all would really want to move on to new projects. Anyway, I found the general time the update will go up, this afternoon. I imagine that means some time in the next few hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 I'm honestly pretty excited for Corrin. I REALLY like that he is so different from the rest of the FE character. I mean Robin is the only substantially different one over all. Having another character that really mixes up the standard FE stuff is cool. Corrin doesn't honestly mix as much as one would expect though. Though his dragon shapeshifting is cool, I don't think that it brought too much to the game in the unique department outside of giving him cool aesthetics, absurd range and that pin attack (which would have a limit as to how long he can pin someone or its broken). Bayonetta, however, looks like she will be a blast to play due to having the most intriguing combo game while focusing on a baiting system. Plus, guns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Not gonna lie bayonetta looks so boring to play. Her damage output is complete garbage from that one match they played on Nico. Sure her combos are insane, but the only way you will EVER kill so one is with her slow as funk smashes. It essentially becomes "combo the funk out of them until you get a chance to Counter Breaker---I mean Witch Time them so you can end it with a smash. What is this Killer Instinct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Not gonna lie bayonetta looks so boring to play. Her damage output is complete garbage from that one match they played on Nico. Sure her combos are insane, but the only way you will EVER kill so one is with her slow as funk smashes. It essentially becomes "combo the funk out of them until you get a chance to Counter Breaker---I mean Witch Time them so you can end it with a smash. What is this Killer Instinct? That's why I like her so much though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 The patch is out and im currently downloading it. We have no notes to discuss as of yet, but follow along with the Smashboards as they get to it here: http://smashboards.com/threads/1-1-4-patch-notes.430023/ I would give them at least 3-4 days to get baseline changes down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 CORRIN IS LIKE FREAKING LAGLESS OMFG LETS GO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King K. Azo Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 CORRIN IS LIKE FREAKING LAGLESS OMFG LETS GOAND PEOPLE WERE WORRIED ABOUT BAYONETTA!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 So..... Is online play pure Corrin? Srsly, all the edgelords and fuckbois with dragon OCs will love to play as a character they probably don't even know about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King K. Azo Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 So..... Is online play pure Corrin? Srsly, all the edgelords and f***bois with dragon OCs will love to play as a character they probably don't even know about.*stares at Armz's Spyro avatar* Not sure if sarcasm... But hey, at least it isn't 'another sword fighter' amiright? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 GUYSGUYSHAVE YOU PLAYED MARTH?HIS AIR SPEEDIS IT LIKE TWICE AS FAST?IT FEELS LIKE IT'S TWICE AS FAST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 GUYSGUYSHAVE YOU PLAYED MARTH?HIS AIR SPEEDIS IT LIKE TWICE AS FAST?IT FEELS LIKE IT'S TWICE AS FASTMarth is back? My main Marth is back? I'm going to abuse him now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King K. Azo Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Some fun things I noticed about Bayonetta. You seem to be able to 'beat' through her smashes. I did a neutral air with Bowser and took no damage from a smash attack. She's fast but laggy as all heck. And if Little Mac is standing by her, he can duck and the Side Smash will miss him completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Bayonetta is so much fun, and her effects and everything are so pretty. It's wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THE funk USING THE BUILT IN QUIT BUTTON BANS YOU FOR TEN MINUTES? I ACCIDENTALLY BRUSHED IT WITH MY FINGER LIKE WHAT. also funk Corrin's counter no, funk all the people on for glory who kill me at 40 from the top of the screen because they do nothing but press down b, then taunt like they did something with their lives. funk everything, funk this corner im crying into Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THE f*** USING THE BUILT IN QUIT BUTTON BANS YOU FOR TEN MINUTES? I ACCIDENTALLY BRUSHED IT WITH MY FINGER LIKE WHAT. also f*** Corrin's counter no, f*** all the people on for glory who kill me at 40 from the top of the screen because they do nothing but press down b, then taunt like they did something with their lives. f*** everything, f*** this corner im crying intogospel funking truth. i sweetspotted the falcon knee into a counter and died at damn near zero twice. that sheet needs a nerf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 I really like Bayonett's dair. Also, getting a fully charged smash on someone in Witch Time is really satisfying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 witch time lasts a really long time, and getting caught by it is annoying as all hell. but hilariously enough, most of the bayonettas i've faced so far don't ever seem to know what to do when they get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 I usually use it to confirm a kill, it may just be that I need more practice but I sometimes have issues finishing off opponents once I've comboed up some damage. Though I've learned doing it early and getting a couple dsmashes in also works nicely. Speaking of her dsmash, if you use it on someone right on the edge, the little stomp Bayonetta makes herself is enough to push them slightly forward off the edge for the weave to spike them, which is fun. Also, is Corrin's counter super bullshit with how large it is or is it just me? It's even got a hitbox below it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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