Flame Dragon Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Master Chief still isn't live. He's a major character for an exclusive console series. Sakurai has stated that at the very least, 3rd party characters need to be from classic series from like WAYYYY back. That's why Sonic and Pac-Man are in even though one was a huge console rival for a decade and the other is not really known for his games on Nintendo consoles– and now Cloud. If anything just went live, it's Spyro, Crash Bandicoot, and Lara Croft. And Vectorman. Never forget Vectorman. I kind of forgot that Sakurai had that other stipulation. I don't think of Cloud as being that old (he is 6 years younger than Sonic), but he is actually pushing 20 so he is arguably a "classic". You can also look at FF as a whole when counting him and then it CERTAINLY counts. I'd say Spyro and Crash are the biggest winners. Their series certainly aren't as classic as FF but they have become classic characters. Weird that the characters that showed up when I started gaming are not part of the classics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Let's be honest... None of us will ever be happy unless Smash Bros becomes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Let's be honest... None of us will ever be happy unless Smash Bros becomes:You put EA on the title, it's bound to fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 I really wanted them to use a Summon as his Final Smash, but it seems like he's getting a boosted form. Actually I think his Final Smash is going to be his Omni Slash. The Limit Break looks like it might be either his Neutral B or his Down B, just have to hold it long enough for it to activate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Am I the only one who feels bad for Sakurai that no matter who gets included many people will scream "WHY NOT ____" or if not that at least "Well okay fine but I really want this instead"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Am I the only one who feels bad for Sakurai that no matter who gets included many people will scream "WHY NOT ____" or if not that at least "Well okay fine but I really want this instead"? I doubt he really cares that much. I mean he should be used to it- most developers by now should know you can't please EVERYONE all at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 He willingly put in characters like Villager and Wii Fit Trainer, he definitely doesn't care what others think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchermitcher Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Think we can all agree that Nintendo!Cloud is better than Dissidia's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Posing for a new game.....fills you with determination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Think we can all agree that Nintendo!Cloud is better than Dissidia's.That's... Actually a pretty amusing comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Avian Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 [spoiler=Potential FFVII Spoiler]Cloud's personality for a good chunk of the game was based on what he remembered about Zack Fair. If you remember when he talked about his past he would refer to himself as a member of SOLDIER, which he never was. Zack was SOLDIER. Basically 90% of Cloud was Zack. Then Aerith dies and he starts to remember who he really is. By the time of Advent Children, Cloud is basically in a constant guilt trip over not being able to save his best friend and the woman he loved. Add in the fact that he has Geostigma, which as far as they know is terminal, you can probably see why he's so apathetic by that point. His personality in Dissidia is based off Advent Children hence why he's like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Well I'm certainly convinced Oh wait I'm bad with falcon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 He willingly put in characters like Villager and Wii Fit Trainer, he definitely doesn't care what others think.Villager is the player character from Nintendo's like 4th or 5th best selling series sooooo Think we can all agree that Nintendo!Cloud is better than Dissidia's.Uh, that sword isn't balanced on anything in either image. It's like on his shoulder blade, he's not propping it up in either version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Villager is the player character from Nintendo's like 4th or 5th best selling series sooooo Yeah, but realistically it's not like either character would be standard fighting game material normally, they're just examples of how Nintendo will put anyone in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Yeah, but realistically it's not like either character would be standard fighting game material normally, they're just examples of how Nintendo will put anyone in.Well that's still not exactly true. The character needs to either be a well liked and classic character or be a popular nintendo character/property or something they're trying to push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchermitcher Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Uh, that sword isn't balanced on anything in either image. It's like on his shoulder blade, he's not propping it up in either version.Dun ask me man, didn't make it. Have the original version: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 By the way here's the best player in my state. Oh also, there's a big regional next weekend that you should all watch in my home city involving MJG, Triple R, JJROCKETS, Falln, Ganon the Beast, The Moon, Prince Abu, Vro, Professor Pro, ORLY, and iateyourpie, among others. I'm making a trailer for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Dude Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Not that I have anything against Cloud, but he is from a Sony Playstation game. Kinda breaks the rules a bit. If they were gonna put in a Final Fantasy character, why not Cecil Harvey or Terra Branford, or Sabin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Not that I have anything against Cloud, but he is from a Sony Playstation game. Kinda breaks the rules a bit. If they were gonna put in a Final Fantasy character, why not Cecil Harvey or Terra Branford, or Sabin? Well I don't know about anyone else, but aside from Cecil I have no idea who the other two are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 I don't know any of those 3 other than Cecil either. Not that I have anything against Cloud, but he is from a Sony PlayStation game. Kinda breaks the rules a bit. If they were gonna put in a Final Fantasy character, why not Cecil Harvey or Terry Branford or Sabin?Technically though, it doesn't break the rules as Cloud appeared in the GBA game; Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories as well as the DS game; Kingdom Hearts: Re-Coded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Which are shitty examples considering Squeenix puts cloud in every funking FF spinoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchermitcher Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 i dont get what point you're trying to make. he technically appeared in a ninty console so the formality's there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethera Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Well I don't know about anyone else, but aside from Cecil I have no idea who the other two are.I don't know any of those 3 other than Cecil either.The other two are from FFVI. In terms of popularity, IV and VII are probably the strongest contenders. X is also infamous. I understand why they put Cloud over others, though Cecil would have been interesting...probably would have played similar to pre-3DS/Wii U Smash Zelda in the fact he could transform, though since both versions were fairly offensive I'm not really sure how the developers would've differentiated them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 I doubt they'd make Cecil transform since they split up Samus/Zamus and Zelda/Sheik. He'd probably just have a moveset reminiscent of both classes and just have alt costumes for each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchermitcher Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Yeah, Dissidia(the all stars FF characters brawler thing) had Cecil do a similar thing, where some of his moves transformed him into his paladin form and some turned him back into a dark knight, so supposing Cecil gets in, that'd probably be how they approach it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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