Progenitor Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 actually it was Shiek vs Diddy. ZeRo doesnt like playing the mirror. He played Diddy once during the set he lost, and twice during the reset where he won. The other 4-5 games or whatever were sheik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 He played Diddy once during the set he lost, and twice during the reset where he won. The other 4-5 games or whatever were sheik.no wonder he lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 The thing is almost every major tournament has been won by Shiek. EVERYONE plays Shiek. If you want to win a tourney, there's no reason to pick anyone else unless you don't know how to play her.I know that scene and history more than well enough. I would still rather a Meta Knight won an SSBB tournament than a chaingrabbing Ice Climbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 The thing is, Sheik doesn't actually need that much tweaking. She needs some hitbox modifications on Fair to reduce its ridiculous combo AND kill potential, give her Fair, Nair and Jump a bit more landing lag, give some of her tilts a bit more lag in general, and there you go. That will still be a top tier character, but it won't be in dominate S. Fair is honestly the biggest problem. Yeah you could argue needles, but you could also just do your very best to shield them cuz they have absolutely no stun anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 They've continuously nerf'd Shiek since the beginning. She should probably get more lagon her aerials, but I think it'd be fair to give her back some kill potential in bair and upair. That's her problem. You take away her combo game without giving that back and I dont think she's even all that viableI know that scene and history more than well enough. I would still rather a Meta Knight won an SSBB tournament than a chaingrabbing Ice Climbers.That's a really shitty comparison to ZSS and Shiek, like wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Muh boi Seagull has me playing Sonic now. I have become the thing I hate the most. But HE'S SO MUCH FUN TO PLAY. WHAT DO I DOOOOOOOOOOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Muh boi Seagull has me playing Sonic now. I have become the thing I hate the most. But HE'S SO MUCH FUN TO PLAY. WHAT DO I DOOOOOOOOOOOGet wrecked by a Jiggs and wonder wtf just happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Oh, it's a fine comparison. I don't really need it to be approved by anyone but myself, and the point was one of disdain over the actual chaingrabbing. There's also a lot more that goes into playing the characters well than the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Muh boi Seagull has me playing Sonic now. I have become the thing I hate the most. EVERYONE CREATES THE THING THEY DREAD *shot* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 I now have Dark Pit, Li'l Mac, Shulk, Greninja, Lucario, and Marth.Picked them all up today and so far all but Li'l Mac and Shulk are already Level 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 >Shulk isn't 50I guess you weren't really feeling you were up to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 >Shulk isn't 50I guess you weren't really feeling you were up to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 I bought Marth, Dark Pit, and Little Mac a few days ago as well. I had Shulk and Greninja before...but that's when I bought them from a vendor at Otakon. For $39.99 each. Even though it was an apparent ripoff I just wanted the rare ones that might not get reprints. I was wrong...Apparently the same vendor is at NYCC selling the same amiibos with the new Yoshi Yarn, Classic Mario, and single Mix Fighters, all for overblown prices. Even Dr. Mario is effing 30-40. Do not buy their amiibos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Avian Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Might as well try to catch em all now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 I bought Marth, Dark Pit, and Little Mac a few days ago as well. I had Shulk and Greninja before...but that's when I bought them from a vendor at Otakon. For $39.99 each.Even though it was an apparent ripoff I just wanted the rare ones that might not get reprints. I was wrong...Apparently the same vendor is at NYCC selling the same amiibos with the new Yoshi Yarn, Classic Mario, and single Mix Fighters, all for overblown prices. Even Dr. Mario is effing 30-40. Do not buy their amiibos.First rule of conventions, everything is overpriced. But! You can haggle!I had seen an old Mechagodilla toy and the owner wanted $30 for it, got it for half due to my experience in bartering. As for why Shulk isn't Level 50 yet . . . wanted him and Lil Mac to be last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 First rule of conventions, everything is overpriced. But! You can haggle!I had seen an old Mechagodilla toy and the owner wanted $30 for it, got it for half due to my experience in bartering. As for why Shulk isn't Level 50 yet . . . wanted him and Lil Mac to be last. It's pretty variable how vendors at conventions can sell their products. Of course the stuff is hard to come by but most sell things like PVC figures and outfits at fair prices, while others are undesirable. I even saw a Splatoon Inkling Boy amiibo sold for probably around $60-80. I'm dead serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 It's pretty variable how vendors at conventions can sell their products. Of course the stuff is hard to come by but most sell things like PVC figures and outfits at fair prices, while others are undesirable. I even saw a Splatoon Inkling Boy amiibo sold for probably around $60-80. I'm dead serious. An Inkling Boy Amiibo for $60-80!? No thanks. I will barter or buy it if I have never seen it before. Well, I mean that's my policy for anything Godzilla; most of the things I buy at conventions are something I generally haggle over. Also, I have Shulk and Li'l Mac with their three special badges, and are now balanced- now to get them to Level 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Thankfully I learned my lesson. Now I have a ton of amiibos I gotta train individually... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Yeah apparently the best thing to do is train them up until Level 50, in whatever way you want:PersonallyVia another AmiiboUsing a Level 9 CPUetc. Once you get them to Level 50 put them up against a Level 9 CPU of the same character, three stock, with no items on Final Destination.Keep having the Amiibo fight the CPU until they can beat the computer FIVE TIMES in a row; anytime they loose, reset the count. This helps the Amiibo learn their move set, range, etc. In order to have them beat other characters, do the same things as training them against the Computer, just with different characters. They learn the opponents' moves and everything else. I've managed to have my Fox beat his CPU and everyone on the top two rows five times in a row without loosing. Once I have Fox be able to beat every character five times in a row with no items, I'm going to put on items in order to have them learn how to use items properly, then go through everyone again, and then finally start adding in other Level 9 CPUs to fight. When an Amiibo can take out three Level 9 CPUs in a 1-on-3 battle, then I'll be impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 That really helps a lot for my training. Normally I just mirror match all the way to 50 and see how it goes. Frankly it would be nice to teach my amiibos how to deal against things like counterpicks and over-defensive characters. I normally don't have too much time to train amiibos but I'll definitely take your tips in consideration~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Thankfully I learned my lesson. Now I have a ton of amiibos I gotta train individually...Que Rocky soundtrck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Que Rocky soundtrck?For Little Mac? :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Avian Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Best way I found out how to do it is put them all in a 99 stock match and let them go at it. By the time it ends they'll be in the high 40s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 picked up fox and cap falc the other day, only need ness to complete my n64 set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makο Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Shulk arrived. It's Japanese. I'm not gonna open the box any time soon, but... I hope this won't cause some sort of compatibility issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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