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My votes:

Shovel Knight

Shantae

Viewtiful Joe/Wonderful 101 guy

Phoenix wright (lel a man can dream)

 

Any of those would be beautiful. But there's a ton of others I'd be cool with. I still have hope that Konami is gonna be the good guys for once and license out Snake again as another Character on Nintendo's side.

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Unfortunately, while I would love to see her in Smash and it would make perfect sense since Bayonetta 2 is a Wii U exclusive, I don't think it's going to happen for the simple reason that both Bayonetta games were M-Rated (and honestly it's was a fair rating.  The games can get pretty graphic).  I don't think Nintendo can really put such an M-Rated character into a T-Rated game, especially since Smash promotes the franchises.

 

Like I said I would love to see it happen, but with how family friendly Nintendo usually is and how in tune with everything kids are these days, I highly doubt it.

 

Plz nintendo prove me wrong.  dew it.

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Well, MGS games are M and Snake was playable in Brawl.

 

I voted for Travis Touchdown when it first came out.

 

But the only Nintendo port of a MGS game at that time was a couple on the GameCube, which ports of the ORIGINAL games on the PS1.  And if we go back even FURTHER, the original MG games were on the PC and NES.  Meaning the games were already out and popular for like 7-10 years for MGS, and 15-20 years for the whole series before Brawl was developed, and even then those were never that bad.  In fact in our era I definitely think they could have passed as Teen.  There was very toned down violence, a little blood here and there, but nothing else.  There was almost no crude language (to my remembrance I haven't played the first 2 in forever).  Meanwhile Bayonetta is a sexualized female killing machine in a game with tons of somewhat disturbing imagery and graphic scenes, and the game itself is only a few years old.

 

It's not a good comparison IMO.  Snake was implemented to promote the MGS franchise (I think MGS 3?  I know there was an MGS title around that time I just don't remember which.) since he was already an incredibly well known icon in games with a very T borderline M rating.  Bayonetta is not that.

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Not that I think anything'll come of it, but I put in my last ballot for Sceptile.

I still think he'd be a cool choice since he could be a sort of hybrid between a swordfighter and a melee fighter by switching between Leaf Blade attacks or kicks and his giant tail.

A lot of people are on the Sceptile train. I know my reasons for it are it finishes the starter set and OR/AS recently came out. Plus Gen 3 (and 5) have never had a rep in the games. I am worried that would be too many Pokemon though.

 

I personally voted for K. Rool and him getting a Mii Outfit hasn't totally killed my hope since other fighters have one too.

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A lot of people are on the Sceptile train. I know my reasons for it are it finishes the starter set and OR/AS recently came out. Plus Gen 3 (and 5) have never had a rep in the games. I am worried that would be too many Pokemon though.

 

There are already SIX Pokemon. The game can't physically carry anymore! Reference FTW!

 

I personally voted for Shovel Knight. He gets an amiibo and now should be added into the Smash.

 

Speaking of Amiibo, currently training my Lvl 50 Fox (Fennec) against all Lvl 9 Computers. So far he's 2-0 against the Lvl 9 Fox, but can't seem to beat a Lvl 9 Mario.

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There are already SIX Pokemon. The game can't physically carry anymore! Reference FTW!

 

I personally voted for Shovel Knight. He gets an amiibo and now should be added into the Smash.

 

Speaking of Amiibo, currently training my Lvl 50 Fox (Fennec) against all Lvl 9 Computers. So far he's 2-0 against the Lvl 9 Fox, but can't seem to beat a Lvl 9 Mario.

probably has to do with cpu input/frame shenanigans.

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probably has to do with cpu input/frame shenanigans.

 

Well, after beating the Lvl 9 Fox 5 times in a row, Fennec has learned enough to take out the Lvl 9 Mario five times in a row as well.

 

The amiibo's training is defeat all characters at Lvl 9, five times in a row without loosing once. Then we'll move on to defeating two of the same character, at Lvl 9 again, five times in a row without loosing.

 

UPDATE: As of this edit Fennec has been able to beat all of the top row on a 3 Stock match while the opponents are Lvl 9.

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Yep, almost every list I see has him solidly at the bottom half of A-Tier

 

BTW this was /r/smashbro's August seeding:

 

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I do have a few problems with this one though:

 

Little Mac should in no way be C tier.  He's at worst B- or even B.  He was there for a long time in these past lists and all of a sudden he dropped like a rock

Why the hell is Marth C+ and Lucina C?  That makes absolutely no sense.  They should be back to back on the same tier, with Marth one spot higher.

Charizard is NOT C tier.  Not even close.  His buffs have made him an absolute monster.  Needs to be in B.

Mewtwo is bad, but he's not D tier bad.  He deserves C+ at the very least.  He's really good and has excellent combos and setups.  Jigglypuff has worse combos and kills at about the same time, yet she's at the top of C- and dies even earlier.  Sure that makes sense.  The one with more combos is WORSE.

One dude on the competitive scene has been doing some really crazy stuff with Mii Swordfighter.  Granted this list is Customs Off, and 1111 Swordfighter is pretty balls, but not 3rd worst character balls.  I forget that dude's name but his performance alone makes swordfighter much higher.

 

Also Voting for September is up.  Might as well cast your votes:

https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/3j350a/rsmashbros_monthly_voted_tier_list_september_2015/

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It's Trela, who uses Swordfighter. Personally, I think Swordfighter is top 30 material.

 

Also we have to understand, that the actual difference between characters is not extreme, technically speaking, every character is viable for top 16, even top 8.

 

Also I think Villager definitely is above Captain Falcon and Fox. Not only does he solidly beat Falcon (tho Fox does pretty good vs Villager), he does much better overall vs the top tiers than either of these characters.

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Well this list is pretty janky.

 

Everyone who was comfortably B tier all of a sudden dropped like a rock.

 

This happens though when positions are polled,  Hopefully September's list will be better.

 

July's list was a lot less objectionable, especially in the low tiers:

 

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