Flame Dragon Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 O yea, Charizard has some nice tools, its why I like him. But even with that, he still isn't good an it makes me sad. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 O yea, Charizard has some nice tools, its why I like him. But even with that, he still isn't good an it makes me sad. :( Theres a few good charizard mains out there I think he's a bit underrated XD he's not top tier, but I certainly never count him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Yesh Lol He's definitely got some neat stuff~Charizard is like Mac, but 500 times Scrubbier. No offence, Flame.But what I mean is...Mac and Char only do the same move; B+SideHowever, Char has the benefit of actually being able to get back onto the stage and can also edge guard.Just sayin', cuz I've seen A LOT of Charizards that are like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Mac doing only SideB sounds really awful, I've never seen anyone do that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Charizard is like Mac, but 500 times Scrubbier. No offence, Flame.But what I mean is...Mac and Char only do the same move; B+SideHowever, Char has the benefit of actually being able to get back onto the stage and can also edge guard.Just sayin', cuz I've seen A LOT of Charizards that are like that.Funny, I think his Side B is one of his worse moves. Its an amazing recovery option, but I rarely use it in battle cause its SO easy to punish.Anyway, working on challenges again. Just beat 9.0 and only dropped a single stock at the VERY end vs. Giant. Sucks to come so close, but I can taste it.Only other ones I have left to do areCollect all music, custom moves, and hats.Break 50000 blocksHave the Metroid show up in Smash Tour (seriously, I've done it a dozen times and its shown up ONCE. They need to make it show up a BIT more than that, I mean come on.)Just got 50000 blocks. Sweet. Once I get the metroid one I'll also get the music one since the challenge is holding the last song. After that its skill and luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 If the Metroid has already shown up, don't you get the achievement then? O,oMac doing only SideB sounds really awful, I've never seen anyone do that before.That's the joke, dood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 If the Metroid has already shown up, don't you get the achievement then? O,oThat's the joke, dood.No. In order to get it you need to1) Have the game pick to have it spawn. In the dozen or so times I've played the mode its happened twice.2) Bump into the Metroid to have it steal your power ups.3) After it runs away from you bump into it AGAIN and get them back.Yea, its VERY hard. Likely one of the hardest in the game because of how much RNG is involved. But the game seems to have taken pity on my and I just got it. Got STUPID lucky1) The Metroid spawned RIGHT next to me.2) The game gave me the Excitebike that very turn.3) When I made first contact the it moved near the other AI but for some reason they didn't collect it.4) It then moved back around and I was able to recatch it thanks to me large role with the bike.Everything went perfect.Three challenges to go. 9.0 no death run, all hats, and all customs.ATM I have 345 custom moves of the 376 and 43 hats of the 55 hats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Theres a few good charizard mains out there I think he's a bit underrated XD he's not top tier, but I certainly never count him out. Don't try to give Charizard credit to make him feel better. We all know it's not underrated. Statistically, he's one of the 5 least likeliest characters to win a tournament. Out of 72 total entrants, only 1 has ever won a tournament, which is a stat that compares closest to only Samus at this point, though it might be closer to Game & Watch depending on how many uses that has in the future. He does better in top 4 and top 8 finishes, but the drop between each is consistently high, which basically tells me that even if a Charizard can make it that far, the second they need to play a good player of most any other character deep in a tournament, they lose and lose often. I USE MATHS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Don't try to give Charizard credit to make him feel better. We all know it's not underrated. Statistically, he's one of the 5 least likeliest characters to win a tournament. Out of 72 total entrants, only 1 has ever won a tournament, which is a stat that compares closest to only Samus at this point, though it might be closer to Game & Watch depending on how many uses that has in the future. He does better in top 4 and top 8 finishes, but the drop between each is consistently high, which basically tells me that even if a Charizard can make it that far, the second they need to play a good player of most any other character deep in a tournament, they lose and lose often. I USE MATHSIt is for this reason my Charizard can't beat my friends Megaman, but switching to Palutena (a character I hardly even know how to play and don't think I'm very good with) actually gave me the win. Sure, she has an insane reflector for all those projectiles and a projectile move of her own, but again, I have no idea how I'm supposed to play her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 It is for this reason my Charizard can't beat my friends Megaman, but switching to Palutena (a character I hardly even know how to play and don't think I'm very good with) actually gave me the win. Sure, she has an insane reflector for all those projectiles and a projectile move of her own, but again, I have no idea how I'm supposed to play her. Skill plays into it too, obviously. You possibly COULD beat your friend with Charizard, if you get better at the game. Skill level of each player obviously always plays some part. That's why Hungrybox can 4-stock a Fox in Melee with Ness, one of the worst characters in the game. It's just that it's harder to win with him than it is with other characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 Skill plays into it too, obviously. You possibly COULD beat your friend with Charizard, if you get better at the game. Skill level of each player obviously always plays some part. That's why Hungrybox can 4-stock a Fox in Melee with Ness, one of the worst characters in the game. It's just that it's harder to win with him than it is with other characters.Skill is obviously important. This issue isn't so much can I win, I can, its is it worth my time to get it so I can win with Charizard. Obviously I'm going to keep trying, but I think I'm going to try to widen my scoop and start playing other characters. ATM the only characters I have any real play time with are Charizard and Shulk so I'm going to go through the rest and see what I make of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 Skill is obviously important. This issue isn't so much can I win, I can, its is it worth my time to get it so I can win with Charizard. Obviously I'm going to keep trying, but I think I'm going to try to widen my scoop and start playing other characters. ATM the only characters I have any real play time with are Charizard and Shulk so I'm going to go through the rest and see what I make of them. Take hold of the janky bat and let our lord Ness into your life. Projectile users will be smited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 Take hold of the janky bat and let our lord Ness into your life. Projectile users will be smited.I enjoyed Ness when I played him to get the various achievements. I also like Mario which is cool since he was my Melee main way back before I knew anything really about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 Take hold of the janky bat and let our lord Ness into your life. Projectile users will be smited.YOU WERE ONLY 9 YEARS OLD WHEN IT HAPPENEDYOU LOVES NESS SO MUCH, YOU HAD ALL HIS GAMES AND HIS AMIIBOYOU PK-PRAY TO NESS EVERY NIGHT BEFORE BED THANKING HIM FOR THE PK-LIFE YOUVE BEEN GIVEN"NESS IS LOVE" YOU SAY. "NESS IS LIFE"YOUR DAD HEARS YOU AND CALLS YOU A SCRUBYOU KNEW HE WAS JUST JELEOUS OF YOUR PK-FIRE SPAMMINGYOU TOLD HIM TO GETGUDHE ERASES YOUR SSB4 SAVE FILE AND SENDS YOU TO GO TO SLEEPYOU ARE CRYING NOW AND YOUR GAME IS RUINEDYOU LAY IN BED AND ITS REALLY COLDA PK-FIRE IS MOVING TOWARDS MEITS NESSYOU ARE SO HAPPYHE WHISPERS INTO YOUR EAR "PK STAR STORM!!!"HE GRABS YOU WITH HIS SMALL BOYISH HANDS AND PUTS YOU-.....Yea, I'll just stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 I enjoyed Ness when I played him to get the various achievements. I also like Mario which is cool since he was my Melee main way back before I knew anything really about it. There are a lot of characters that just feel really good to play as in this game and Ness is probably the one that felt the most fluid and comfortable, which is great because he feels terrible in every other game. .....Yea, I'll just stop. Probably a good decision. In other news, Sakurai's official instagram posted about the Direct tomorrow and mentioned that a "certain character" will make an appearance. tl;dr probs seeing Mewtwo tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 I've been in a horrible rut these past couple days, I lost so much. But finally I started to win again, with none other than our lord and savior, Captain Falcon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 I've been in a horrible rut these past couple days, I lost so much. But finally I started to win again, with none other than our lord and savior, Captain Falcon. Have you ever tried using Link? I feel you'd do good with him. That being said, Captain Falcon is da best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 He relies too much on his projectile wall to be truly good, I think. I've never been one for projectile characters (I played Snake and Toon Link in Brawl without using them), I'm just too straightforward a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 I want to learn Captain Falcon for 2 reasons: 1. HYPE 2. Fact: everyone loves the falcon player Have you ever tried using Link? I feel you'd do good with him. That being said, Captain Falcon is da best. FUCK LINK ONLY ASSHOLES PLAY LINK FUCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 LUCAS HYPE!!!! FIGHTER SUGGESTIONS!!!!!!! OUTFITS!!!!! SO MUCH HYPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 £3.50 for DLC Mewtwo? Sounds reasonable imo. (Coming from a guy who isn't getting the download code) I couldn't really care less for Lucas tbh Other than that HYPE!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 Aside from the fact today is April Fools, and how Nintendo insisted on this "being real", it's still skeptical. I mean, come on.. This is Nintendo. They [i]love[/i] to do silly stuff like this. And Lucas being in Smash 4... Just seems redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 Putting in Travis Touchdown for my ballot, what about you guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 Hey guys, dare I say...NINTENDO REALLY-EXPANDED ON THE DLC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 Putting in Travis Touchdown for my ballot, what about you guys? This one's easy for me. I'm putting in the baby karters. Counter to Bowser Jr, it'll be a bunch of baby characters all in either the standard kart or the baby kart thing that idr. They'll have 8-16 different skins. First 8: Baby Mario Baby Luigi Baby Peach Baby Daisy Baby Rosalina Baby Wario Baby Waluigi Baby Yoshi [spoiler='And if they want to include 8 more skins, I got the perfect ideas:'] Baby DK / DK Jr. Pichu Igglybuff Young Link Baby Kirby (It's a thing, look it up) Baby Fox Baby Samus Captain Falkid [/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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