Agro Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 I hate little mac. Not because I'm bad againt little mac, but because I systematically stop playing super smash bros. It starts out as if I am but as soon as they take the bait, I'm camping the edge for a quick gimp kill. If I'm using Ness in that situation, it's as good as over. People just dont expect Ness to go offstage and it leads to the easiest fair kills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 Yeah, I've faced people who do that a lot, I just wait in the middle. If they don't want to move, neither will I, and I bet I'm more patient than them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 That's happened a few times, which is why I don't just wait on the edge first. Gotta make it look natural.It helps, especially with Ness, that he has such a good spacing move to keep Mac a certain distance if you do need to go in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 my jigglypuff seems to get destroyed by shulk and ness far more than it does against heavyweights. i don't know if it's because of a bad matchup, or just because i haven't adapted well to their playstyles yet. Jiggly vs Shulk is an really bad MU for Jigglypuff. Same with Marth vs Jiggs. Also I LOVE fighting heavies in FG. They're Villager fodder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Is it just me or does Little Mac hard counter Sonic? At least in my experience, since almost every Sonic I face wants to spam his spin dash combos, which are easily countered by Mac's Straight Lunge or a smash attack, so you just wait for them to come to you. And if they stop doing that and try for a more methodical approach, it's a matter of using your own speed, since Mac's the third fastest character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I find there are a few heavier characters that have responses to Sonic's spindash. Ganondorf's specials all counter it really well, especially the kick. Side B tends to either clank or find the sweet spot in the spin to grab him. Custom Side B that doesn't grab might be even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Oh yeah, Ganondorf is definitely great against Sonic as well. And his kick is just great in this game. I don't remember if it was always stronger in the air, but it's really good for dropping in on people who try to use aerials on you or something. Though he just has a really good air game in general. Speaking of match-ups, my favorite character to fight a Mega Man as is Bowser, since he doesn't flinch against the Mega Buster. Also, Little Mac is fun against anyone who relies a lot on grab combos, since anytime they go in to grab, you can usually stop them in their tracks with a quick ftilt. And while hard to pull off, a fully charged Straight Lunge from Little Mac KOs at scarily low percentages. EDIT: Actually got around to looking at how early the KO Punch can KO people, and I didn't realize Shield Monado made Shulk so tanky: http://berathen.com/learntosmash/little-mac-ko-percents.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Yeah you need Shield Shulk at like 115 before Jiggs's Rest kills. It's super weird. It's still hard to really see what characters my mains have bad matchups against. The only clear one seems to be that all of them have issues fighting Rosalina. Because everything has issues fighting Rosalina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I wish she was more popular online, or had a friend who mains her. I still have yet to get used to the timing and hitboxes of her attacks. And like Palutena, the way she blinks away when dodging and rolling really messes with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 So far the only "tech" I've learned to play against her is with Pit. Usually a Rosalina player won't bother shielding your arrows since Luma blocks it, but if you angle it up slightly at the last second, it'll miss the Luma and hit Rosalina's head for a pretty easy few percentage points. Also getting Rosalina in the air is a must. If your aerials have priority or more range than she does, it can be pretty easy to juggle her and rack up percent without needing to deal with the Luma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Yeah, Yoshi is probably my best for fighting her, now that I think about it. Her uair and dair are powerful, and usually what I see used against me most when I try to go for my air game, but like the Villager and his turnips and other sort of aerial fights, Yoshi's good for coming from the side. Smacking someone down with the fair leads into other attacks pretty well and the buff to his bair is really good. Plus, there's the super armor during his flutter jump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Sheik is good against her, cuz needles go through Luma. =P I just use Marth most of the time tho The sword really fucks up Luma XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Rosalina is probably the only reason I still play Shiek. I should watch some videos of people who have had success against Dabuz. Would probably help me work around her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 my marth and robin destroy my friends rosalina, but my jiggly and captain falcon usually have a bit of difficulty getting in to hit her. although once they do, it's a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 I'm surprised Robin would do so well considering she can basically neutralize any projectile you throw at her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Anyone else get calluses from playing a lot of Smash Bros? I have one just at the base of my left middle finger (and one to a lesser extent at the base of my left ring finger) since I use the Wii Remote + Nunchuk controls. It went away during my break from Brawl after the servers were shut down, but it's come back since I've been playing SSB4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I may or may not play smash online in a few hours (~3 hours maybe). Was there anyone here who would be online? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I may or may not be on around then, it depends on how long my lab runs. What's your NNID? I don't have anyone here added on my friend's Wii U right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I may or may not be on around then, it depends on how long my lab runs. What's your NNID? I don't have anyone here added on my friend's Wii U right now. agrodrago (i think) Also: It's Thursday. Time for the weekly rankings. No additions from last week, as not many events were held. IMPORTANT NOTE: As you might have noticed, there hasn't been much change in the top 5 in weeks, with Olimar being the only character capable of climbing in there, but I don't think I've made it quite clear just HOW much further ahead the top 5 is from everyone else. While Rosalina's hold over the #5 spot has been statistically significant at over 5% over the past few weeks, the space between her and the top 4 is about 15%, which may not sound that large of a lead, but it is VERY large considering most characters between #8 and #35 are never more than 3% away from the next position. As for movement between the top 5, as mentioned Rosalina is quite a bit off, but the space between the top 4 is not. Olimar and Sonic are actually very close so it's possible there could be a pass there. As for the #1 spot, this week is the closest Robin and Diddy have been since Robin first took the spot, so it's possible the monkey could achieve his destiny and become the statistically best character in the game in the coming weeks. [spoiler='Top 15 for March 26'] 1. Robin 2. Diddy Kong 3. Pikman & Olimar 4. Sonic 5. Rosalina 6. Meta Knight (+3) 7. Dr. Mario (-1) 8. Little Mac (+2) 9. Luigi (+2) 10. Mario (-2) 11. Dark Pit (-4) 12. Shiek 13. Ness (+1) 14. Fox (-1) 15. R.O.B. Next 5 In: Ganondorf, Donkey Kong, Marth, King Dedede, Kirby [/spoiler] [spoiler='Top 15 w/ 100+ Uses for March 26'] 1. Robin 2. Diddy Kong 3. Pikman & Olimar 4. Sonic 5. Rosalina 6. Little Mac (+1) 7. Luigi (+1) 8. Mario (-2) 9. Shiek 10. Ness (+1) 11. Fox (-1) 12. R.O.B. 13. Ganondorf 14. Donkey Kong 15. King Dedede (+2) Dropped: 21. Shulk (-6) Next 5 In: Kirby, Zero Suit Samus, Captain Falcon, Bowser, Toon Link [/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Ok, I'm good to play Smash whenever anyone else is. Adding you in a sec, Agro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Ok, I'm good to play Smash whenever anyone else is. Adding you in a sec, Agro. I'm gonna get on in like 10 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Ok, I'll get back on. Did you get my invite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Ok, I'll get back on. Did you get my invite? I LIED I'M GETTING ON IN LIKE A MINUTE MY BAD I HAD SCHEDULING ISSUES WITH WORK I HAD TO SORT OUT U KNO HOW IT IS SOMETIMES Also Japan put together a new tier list and IT IS TRAAAAAAASH http://smashboards.com/threads/new-japanese-tier-list-by-shi-g.394772/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Ok, I'll set up the room, just join when you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Ok, I'll set up the room, just join when you can. You're KaptainKielbasa? Also would like to know if anyone here is: Cooper560 AlfonsoMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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