Toffee. Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 He actually was buffed, from Brawl- Wiki says he was nerfed O,o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Wiki says he was nerfed O,o From Melee, yeah But Fox is MUCH more competitively viable now. He was C-tier in Brawl, but is considered top tier in Smash 4 (you know, below the Sheiks/Diddys and a couple others) At least that's what the overall community seems to think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 At least that's what the overall community seems to think But the wiki says otherwise, dood: http://www.ssbwiki.com/Fox_%28SSB4%29 Though, I like how they are ignoring said changes(or at least implying that) and still using him regardless, so that's always an amusing point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 But the wiki says otherwise, dood: http://www.ssbwiki.com/Fox_%28SSB4%29 Though, I like how they are ignoring said changes(or at least implying that) and still using him regardless, so that's always an amusing point. Wiki does say he was nerfed, indeed. I am not on one side or the other, but Fox seems very deadly, when used by the likes of NAKAT. It could be possible that despite his nerfs, Fox still has a solid place in this metagame, since its different from Brawl's. I'd say Fox can easily place higher than what Brawl's tier list had him at, possibly top 15, at worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 'Course Fox can still be deadly. He still has those 2fast4me moves, and having exact timing with them can win games O,o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 'Course Fox can still be deadly. He still has those 2fast4me moves, and having exact timing with them can win games O,o Dude's usmash and uair still kill at very low percents, especially with rage, and he can rack up damage fast xD Fox is definitely lovely to use <3 Also now he can recover forever, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Wiki does say he was nerfed, indeed. Guys guys guys. They're referring to his voice. COME ON! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 I definitely think Fox is a lot better in this game. Except the voice part. At least in Falco's case his 64 voice is fine. I'm glad he doesn't seem to be all that popular online, because I hate Duck Hunt. And his stupid laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Duck Hunt is in a weird spot, because he can probably be a lot better than he's been played thus far. I'm guessing people just hate him so much that no one plays him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Duck Hunt seems like one of the more complex characters to play since he seems to be about setting traps and controlling the stage with his B and V-B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Duck Hunt is one of my troll characters, just like Wii Fit Trainer and black alt. Donkey Kong. Speaking of Donkey Kong, I was playing For Glory 1 on 1 against a Falco. Though we were tied in stocks, he had full control of the field and had me at 76% while he was at 24%. After knocking me into the air, he tried to edge guard against me and got spiked by my forward air, giving me the win. How salty would you have been had that happened to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Duck Hunt is one of my troll characters, just like Wii Fit Trainer and black alt. Donkey Kong. Speaking of Donkey Kong, I was playing For Glory 1 on 1 against a Falco. Though we were tied in stocks, he had full control of the field and had me at 76% while he was at 24%. After knocking me into the air, he tried to edge guard against me and got spiked by my forward air, giving me the win. How salty would you have been had that happened to you? I played a DK and he spiked my Marth to death at 11%, when he had like 70%+ damage You're tellin me. Also Fox's voice is..... .... ...its kinda funny, actually. I DO like how he screams though, its very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 It's fun as Ganondorf if you just get hit by a bad combo string or something and get behind by a lot of damage, then just Ganoncide to reset for the 2nd stock. :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makο Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Duck Hunt is one of my troll characters, just like Wii Fit Trainer and black alt. Donkey Kong. Did you see that one VOD of a Wii Fit Trainer vs Captain Falcon money match, with Custom Moves on? Suddenly, Wii Fit Trainer becomes a lot less troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 It's fun as Ganondorf if you just get hit by a bad combo string or something and get behind by a lot of damage, then just Ganoncide to reset for the 2nd stock. :3 That's why I like being Villager. No need to get in harm's way........tho I do it anyway XP Also guys, DHD was played by some guy who was in top 8 o3o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydra Iron Man Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Greninja can just spam shadow sneak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Greninja can just spam shadow sneak He really can't. It's so easy to punish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 He really can't. It's so easy to punish. I miss the down-air, shadow sneak mixups Wait no I dont, I didn't play greninja. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 I've tried giving him a shot but he just doesn't feel right to me, I think it's something to do with me not liking the timing of his attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 I've tried giving him a shot but he just doesn't feel right to me, I think it's something to do with me not liking the timing of his attacks. I tried Greninja, and he feels weird Unlike Sheikbabe <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Right? Like, I'm not that good at describing things, but he is just weird. I imagine we've got the same problems with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Right? Like, I'm not that good at describing things, but he is just weird. I imagine we've got the same problems with him. I think a big part of it is that his fair has this weird startup lag. Among other things. I'll stick with Sheik for ninjas XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 That's definitely one of his moves I don't like. It's a shame, I was so keen on him being in, I lost my shit when he was first revealed, he just doesn't agree with me. Meanwhile I'm still loving Little Mac, I feel like I'm starting to get a lot better with him. That or I've just faced a lot of really bad people lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 I think a big part of it is that his fair has this weird startup lag. Among other things. I'll stick with Sheik for ninjas XP DL somebody I'm living with is planning on getting a Wii U in the near future so that'll be good and then I'll get to make you feel worse about yourself like usual. Not like a few weeks but probably this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 @Hina - I've gotten better ;3 @Shradow - He's fine if you get used to it, and Amsa definitely does well I think its hard to get used to someone who is a fast faller and not Fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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