Toffee. Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 With regards to comments on character buffs/nerfs...Look, at leas you guys didn't get the short end of the stick.I mean...ROB is now more of a close-range character, when in the previous game he was a combination fighter AND range-attack-spammer; Gyros were nerfed, and his beam is laughably slow/telegraphed.Game&Watch became smaller and this utterly fucked up all his moves/etc. Although, I do like his Extreme Judge and XL Chef; owait we are only counting the original moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Game&Watch became smaller and this utterly fucked up all his moves/etc. Although, I do like his Extreme Judge and XL Chef; owait we are only counting the original moves. Go to 3:45 and tell me that again, bro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UERJkNBqRW8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Go to 3:45 and tell me that again, broThat guy adjusted to him faster then I did....I'm just more used to his Brawl version, and I just need to play Game&Wastch more in the 3DS/WiiU one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 That guy adjusted to him faster then I did. ... I'm just more used to his Brawl version, and I just need to play Game&Wastch more in the 3DS/WiiU one. My older brother, who is an avid G&W player in Brawl, loves how this G&W feels. He is only leaving the factory so we've only had hints about the "true monado". Honestly, its just tilting that they have such a blatant seven spoiler since that is kind of a BIG deal. And its in Smash Tour no less so its easy to just pump into. The Jade Face trophy is also stupid, considering that it reveals Gadolt's identity despite only being touched upon in Sharla's trophy description. I mean, is that really deserving enough to gets its own trophy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 So anyone have a current Tier List? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 So anyone have a current Tier List? 1. Diddy Kong 2. Anyone's guess. that's about it, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 My older brother, who is an avid G&W player in Brawl, loves how this G&W feels. The Jade Face trophy is also stupid, considering that it reveals Gadolt's identity despite only being touched upon in Sharla's trophy description. I mean, is that really deserving enough to gets its own trophy? Any other spoilers I should be on the look out for on the trophies? Also, on the subject of the Xeno trophies, I LOVE the detail on the Bionis one. So anyone have a current Tier List? Tiers aren't THAT useful atm. They are still planning on making SOME changes and it is just early in the game's life. Though if you want to take a peak http://www.eventhubs.com/tiers/ssb4/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 I know. Just curious- Wait.... sERIOUSLY DIDDY? Let's see....Shiek, ZS Samus, Yoshi, Sonic, Lucario, Falcon, and Rosalina are no surprise. I'm amazed Palutena, Duck Hunt, and Bowser arn't higher. I heard they were really strong. Maybe its just this, but eh. I could care less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Eventhubs list is pretty bad tho, I wouldn't use it. They have Donkey Kong as #32. A DK player recently wrecked M2K who was using Diddy, which, again, is the consensus pick for best character right now. And Greninja isn't really that close to the top right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makο Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 I wish Ike's neutral B had super shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 I wish Ike's neutral B had super shield. I've never heard that term, do you mean super armor, aka knockback resistance? It still has that, if that's what you're saying, it's just been changed since Brawl so it only has it when it's at least 75% charged. I had to learn that the hard way. >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Okay so I've been looking through the tournament data and have been working around the % of characters that make it into the top 16, 8, etc. in comparison to how many get entered. After working through the data, I'm leaving off any characters without at least 30 known times being entered due to a lack of data (otherwise, Mii Swordfighter is the best because it got top 8 in the only known time it was entered). Characters left off due to this are: Wii Fit Trainer, Wario, Pac-Man, Meta Knight, Samus, Dr. Mario, Pit, Zelda, Mr. Game & Watch, and the Mii Fighters. (Honestly, I probably could have made the cutoff at 50 and ignored about 14 more characters...) The only 3 characters that would be included in the top 15 if I didn't cut them out this way were Samus (26 uses), Meta Knight (27 uses), and Dr. Mario (20 uses). I've made note if a character was used less than 50 times overall. [spoiler='Highest % of entered players in Top 16'] 1. Jigglypuff (<50) 2. Sonic 3. Robin (<50) 4. Pikman & Olimar (<50) 5. Diddy Kong 6. Rosalina 7. Marth (<50) 8. Lucina (<50) 9. Ganondorf 10. Greninja 11. Villager 12. Shiek 13. Peach (<50) 14. Fox 15. Ness [/spoiler] [spoiler='Highest % of entered players in Top 8'] 1. Sonic 2. Robin (<50) 3. Diddy Kong 4. Dark Pit (<50) 5. Fox 6. Ness 7. Pikman & Olimar (<50) 8. Rosalina 9. Captain Falcon 10. Marth (<50) 11. Little Mac 12. Lucina (<50) 13. Bowser Jr. 14. Mario 15. Shiek [/spoiler] [spoiler='Highest % of entered players in Top 1'] 1. Lucina (<50) 2. Diddy Kong 3. Fox 4. Dark Pit (<50) 5. Rosalina 6. Ness 7. Luigi 8. Shiek 9. R.O.B. 10. Shulk 11. Sonic 12. Little Mac 13. Ganondorf 14. Lucario 15. Villager [/spoiler] [spoiler='Terrible Math, but Overall List'] 1. Diddy Kong 2. Sonic 3. Robin 4. Rosalina 5. Lucina 6. Fox 7. Pikman & Olimar 8. Ness 9. Marth 10. Dark Pit 11. Ganondorf 12. Shiek 13. Little Mac 14. Jigglypuff 15. Villager [/spoiler] Please don't take this as a tier list. If you REALLY want a tier list, you'll need to go into the individual matchups of each character in every match in every tournament and get the % of times lost vs each character, which would be not only a hassle, but at this point, damn near impossible. Although it will be interesting to see if any characters high on this list but low on normal tier lists end up really high at Apex at the end of the month. We'll see. Also please note issues with these lists as they don't take into account: strength of player, strength of opponents, number of players in tournament, and if too few instances were used (to a degree, as the most used character, Diddy Kong (271 uses) has much more data than Dark Pit (31 uses). Data was taken from Smashboards' Smash Wii U Usage Statistics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 I wish Ike's neutral B had super shield.Mac's Side B vs Ike's invincible neutral B; For Glory rivalry for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 I'm just glad Ike's flames are blue in this game. Early on we had a pic of the day where his flames were still normal colored and it made me sad, but thankfully they changed it in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 I'm just glad Ike's flames are blue in this game. Early on we had a pic of the day where his flames were still normal colored and it made me sad, but thankfully they changed it in the end. What's wrong with the normal flames? XP Also I made a Marth combo video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c2x2hZ6PIQ My first combo video, tho it's more of a string video, but I think it came out pretty decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Whatever the case, I still plan to main Pikachu, Lucina, Rosalina, Palutena, Captain Falcon, and Duck Hunt. And Peach, because I've noticed I'm really good with Peach. I found something humorous about how various characters go with the people playing them. If I see if again, I'll have to post it. I can't find it right now...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 What's wrong with the normal flames? XP Well, he is the Hero of the Blue Flames. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gWYr_QOfW4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Well, he is the Hero of the Blue Flames. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gWYr_QOfW4 Ah, I guess that's true, huh? I guess blue flames DO suit him more. What color were they in Brawl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Normal colored, orange/red/etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Any other spoilers I should be on the look out for on the trophies? Also, on the subject of the Xeno trophies, I LOVE the detail on the Bionis one. There's the Face Nemesis and Yaldabaoth (seriously, avoid looking at Yaldabaoth's trophy description). And, yes, the Bionis and Mechonis trophies are incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 This made me laugh way too hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 One of those Open Chest Sweaters. Oh, Captain Falcon...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Appearently the Luigi-ladder still exists...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E3i7lNHIfk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Kinda old, but OP nonetheless. It's absolutely wtf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 It's easily fixable if they'd actually patch the Wii U version once. But if I end up running into this a lot in For Glory doubles, i may just stick to singles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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