Toffee. Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Speaking of Awkward Zombie, Someone over on KYM mentioned it predicted the future, like, 6 years ago: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Ike is most definitely better as a unit, but Ephraim is <3 Also he did take down an entire castle with just 3 horsemen by his side, so there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Was the DS one really that bad? It was as linear as fornication, it was too easy except for the Final Boss and Bonus Bosses, and it didn't do enough change to the series to justify the years between sequels. I mean, The Lost Age has much more difference between it and the first Golden Sun than Dark Dawn had between itself and The Lost Age, and The Lost Age was literally made a year after the first Golden Sun. I'm hoping that, for the fourth game, they actually balance the characters by buffing mages and offensive Psynergy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Ike's mediocre in a series full f mediocre main characters. FFS, given when his games were made, he's worse by comparison than Marth. He's definitely worse than Robin or Lucina. He's worse than Eirika and Ephraim as a character (these two are much less generic than most of their predecessors and Ike overall ._.) He's worse than Lyndis and Hector Ike is a shoddy character. What he makes up in not being a generic lord, he completely lacks in being interesting most of the time. You can like him all you want, but stop playing him, and Tellius, up as much as you do, because he's nothing special. Not a generic fancy lord? Lyndis. She may be royalty (more like a governor's descendant at that), but she never really acted like it. Not a generic fancy lord? Micaiah. We know how awful a character and unit she is, even though, once again, technically royalty. The fact that Ike is the only non-royal means nothing when he doesn't have a real character to work with. He's Generic McProtagonist, Complete with being a glutton, especially for meat. I mean, shit, his line in Brawl shows what a generic protagonist he is. "I fight for my friends" If you're going to call Ephraim "just another Blue-haired lord", look at Ike again. He's just an inigo Montoya-motivated generic protagonist, whose character lacks in exchange for breaking the status quo. But fear ye not, he still has the regal blue hair! He's as generic as Chrom, but his big offense is that he was made to break the status quo and hardly did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 He IS one of the strongest controllable units ever, though. Right up there with Nephenee. And while I never saw him in Path of Radiance, he seemed aight in Radiant Dawn. Sure, I preferred a lot of other characters, but he wasn't dislikeable. =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 FE Lords, if you compare them to each other, are all quite unique, aside from some exceptions. If you try to put them beside abunch of other characters from stuff that are similar, then yeah, any of them would seem generic, just in different ways. In terms of gameplay, Ike is arguably the best Lord (often against Hector, from what I've seen). In terms of lore, Ike is a legendary hero, capable of fighting against gods, and hailed as the strongest man the world has ever seen. This is the same world that Marth, Ephraim, and all non-Tellius characters came from, since besides PoR/RD, all FE games take place in the same world (which Ike traveled to after RD, as evidenced by Priam). So, in-universe, he beats out all other Lords. He's got a simple personality and a straightforward attitude, yes, but Ike's a simple guy. That is not a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yemachu Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 The last few posts make it seem more like a Fire Emblem topic than a Smash Bros topic, considering the amount of posts regarding Ike and any number of other Lord units. My suggestion for an additional Fire Emblem character would be one of the bad guys the series contain; Lyon from the Sacred Stones maybe? Regarding other game series 'exclusive' to Nintendo, I would like to see "Professor Hershel Layton" as a playable character. Only issue being that he is not really the type of fighter; he clearly expresses a dislike towards violence. That is not to say to say he doesn't fight in his series; he is a fencer. But if they would take his moveset from there, we would get yet another swordsfighter <_<. Another instance he used violence, is his "Slot machine gun"; that weapon could be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 First, waifus went into the weeaboo region, and now a debate on why Ike sucks as a Fire Emblem character? I agree with above user and we should get back to Smash. There's going to be at least 435 music tracks in the Wii U version. Also, Sakurai couldn't help but put in spoilerific trophies in the Wii U version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 The Fiora trophy is just a giant ball of spoilers I'm sure. On the bright side I haven't even gotten around to reading the 3DS trophies, so I'm not sure when I'll be able to get around to the Wii U's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 First, waifus went into the weeaboo region, and now a debate on why Ike sucks as a Fire Emblem character? I agree with above user and we should get back to Smash.No Fuck Sm4sh. Lets discuss the glorious Mewtwo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 They should have Sceptile as a dlc character that requires 3ds, Wii U, and both versions of gen 3 remake. Or just pay $3-5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 They should have Sceptile as a dlc character that requires 3ds, Wii U, and both versions of gen 3 remake. Or just pay $3-5.PffffffAlthough...Greninja did drink Mewtwo tears, and now Mewtwo is drinking Sceptile tears, so....Although, if anything, we could include Blaziken and just make it a Captain Falcon-clone + a Counter move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Avian Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 So I finally got it and I find Little Mac to be hilariously borked in Final Destination. No platforms to deal with, just your godly ground game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 So I finally got it and I find Little Mac to be hilariously borked in Final Destination. No platforms to deal with, just your godly ground game.Welcome to For Glory mode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 So, which Koopaling will you guys use, or are you just gonna stick with Bowser Jr.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Roy because I'm an asshole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 I'll probably just stick with Bowser Jr., myself. I really like that little guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 So, which Koopaling will you guys use, or are you just gonna stick with Bowser Jr.? I've already played equal time as Roy, Ludwig, and Bowser Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Roy because I'm an a******. Speak of the devil... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Pffffff Although... Greninja did drink Mewtwo tears, and now Mewtwo is drinking Sceptile tears, so.... Although, if anything, we could include Blaziken and just make it a Captain Falcon-clone + a Counter move. I'd rather Blaziken, but Sceptile finishes off the Water and Fire starter lineup. So I finally got it and I find Little Mac to be hilariously borked in Final Destination. No platforms to deal with, just your godly ground game. Which is why when we have out tournament, whenever that is, we'll have some nonFD stages legal. So, which Koopaling will you guys use, or are you just gonna stick with Bowser Jr.? Jr. I don't really care that much about the Koopalings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Can't wait to do some 8 Player Smashes with you guys. We have enough for that, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Of course. Though I'm still waiting for the tournament... o3o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaMuddy Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Pffffff Although... Greninja did drink Mewtwo tears, and now Mewtwo is drinking Sceptile tears, so.... Although, if anything, we could include Blaziken and just make it a Captain Falcon-clone + a Counter move. Then make Ganondorf use swords, so he's not a lame-ass clone with no differences whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Katie really wants Roy back.... It's funny, really, how he ended up being such of a 1-off character.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Then make Ganondorf use swords, so he's not a lame-ass clone with no differences whatsoever. Ganondorf's not like Lucina or Dr. Mario, he plays very differently from Captain Falcon. Also I know of at least one of his custom moves that uses his sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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