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They can always look up the properties of kryptonite, and isolate the specific properties of each element that's known to be inside kryptonite, after that, they can just use an element that has similar properties to the unknown element to make synthetic kryptonite the way batman and lex luthor do whenever they fight superman. real kryptonite might be more powerful, but if you use enough synthetic kryptonite, the difference wouldn't matter. once you know the specific properties of the missing element, you can figure out what elements can emulate it with minor difficulty. The Unknown element in the comics. cartoons is pretty much there to prevent the villains from creating unlimited supplies without killing their resources, the 4 I mentioned don't have to worry about resources, they can just create elements to their hearts content to emulate the effects of kryptonite.

 

 

Seeing as they have alchemic powers, they could theoretically transmute an entire building or more into Synthetic/ kryptonite and beat him to death inside it/ collapse it on him. After they figure out the proper combination(s) of elements (if they have the prep time to test their last ingredient) it would be a permanent victory against superman.

 

It would take a lot more research time than the aforementioned 5 minutes, but They're alchemists who used the gate, and 2 walking philosophers stones, they already know the properties of most, if not all of the known elements by heart, so they could simply substitute suitable emulator elements for the unknown ingredient into multiple test creations of kryptonite.

Due to supermans habit of not dodging, they can get at least 1 free test hit off before they have to use tactical means, and if even 1 of the test subjests turns out to be correct, superman would lose a ton of power right then and there and they can just transmute a barrage of said kryptonite into superman as spears, or better yet, they can do what Ed did to greed, and transmute his body cells into something else so that he can't even absorb solar rays and call GG.

 

Either solution is highly improbable seeing as they'd either need to get close enough to transmute him without him just punching them in the face, of properly proxy an unknown element, but even if those methods don't work, all 4 of them (or maybe just Hoenheim and father) can mass synthesize radiation waves to emulate Kryptonic radiation.

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Possibly, but remember how it was difficult for him to even move while he was containing that god? I doubt he could stand up to a speedblizing superman...

 

That's because, immediately after attaining God, he lost the Philosopher's Stone he made from the Amestrian people due to Hoenheim's plan. Had he kept it, he would've been able to keep God in check just fine and FMA: Brotherhood would've ended on a much sadder note.

 

As for Gurren Lagann, I think it would have to be the STTGL if any of the gunmen went against him. Now, Simon is essentially God due to having infinite spiral power, and he can always just bring himself back to life, but I can't say how he'd fare against Superman.

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>> Light Yagami

 

OBJECTION!!

 

Rule 1 of the Death Note states that the human whose name is written shall die.

 

Superman is not human. We cannot be sure the note will work against him, as the note is stated to have no effect on Shinigami, and it is never used on a nonhuman.

 

>>Everything Elijah4527 has suggested

 

stop...just stop... Deadpool is a mentally unstable mercenary with Wolverine's healing factor, nothing more. Superman has eaten armies of people equivalent to Deadpool alive.

 

As for Goku (much to my regret, anger, and DBZ fanboy loving RAGE) Death Battle conclusively proved that Superman could thrash Goku by a wide margin

 

>>People I think could kill Superman

 

The Anti-Monitor (Crisis On Infinite Earths) Has killed many iterations of Superman and beings much more powerful with minimal effort within the DC canon.

 

Batman or Spiderman (If given sufficient preparation time) these two have shown time and time again that they can effectively decimate anyone else in their universe if given the preparation time they need. (Batman has beaten Superman with prep time and Spiderman has beaten Thanos)

 

Thanos (Marvel Universe) absolute command over Time, Space, Power, and Life. Nuff said.

 

Asura (Asura's Wrath) Debatable. Asura can breathe in space like Superman, destroy earth-sized planets in a single blast at his full power and even destroy suns (the source of Superman's power) and not be fazed. It would be a question, however, of whether or not Asura could withstand everything Superman hit him with.

 

Spawn (Spawn) Immunity to everything but Blessed weaponry makes Spawn an instant win. Past the fact that he holds all the powers of the Judeo-Christian God and Satan COMBINED

 

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The God Emperor of Mankind (Warhammer 40K) Debatable. At the height of his power the Emperor was a powerful Mystic and Psychic with enough strength to fight each one of his primarchs into submission at once. To put it lightly, this guy's fists hit like collapsed stars being swung at you. Couple that with magical energies that cripple Superman, armor that can resist planet-destroying force, and a gang of stupidly overpowered weaponry and he's a decent match for Superman

My votes go here. Seems pretty sound logic.

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I feel like Broly stands somewhat of a chance...

 

I've never seen any of the Broly movies, but I assume he was beaten by the main characters.

 

Since no DBZ protagonist, even Goku, comes anywhere close to Superman's abilities, I'd say no.

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I've never seen any of the Broly movies, but I assume he was beaten by the main characters.

 

Since no DBZ protagonist, even Goku, comes anywhere close to Superman's abilities, I'd say no.

Broly got his ass kicked first by Goku and company (pre Cell saga, I believe it takes place), then again by adult Gohan+Goten+mysterious help from Goku. He wouldn't even remotely stand a chance. The stats Death Battle uses are from Goku's SSJ4 form, WELL after Broly's death.

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Broly got his ass kicked first by Goku and company (pre Cell saga, I believe it takes place), then again by adult Gohan+Goten+mysterious help from Goku. He wouldn't even remotely stand a chance. The stats Death Battle uses are from Goku's SSJ4 form, WELL after Broly's death.

Also BEFORE he got like, 10000x faster and X times stronger.

 

Stop talking about Death Battle, because it no longer means anything.

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Also BEFORE he got like, 10000x faster and X times stronger.

When was this? I don't remember what movies take place after GT.

As for Broly, He one-shotted a planet and destroyed a whole galaxy, if hulk stands a bit of a chance why wouldn't broly when he could volley him with planet destroying blasts and Broly died with PIS we all know it.

The Hulk once destroyed a pocket universe with the shockwave from a clap of his hands. And in a battle between the Unstoppable Force vs the Immovable Object, with the Hulk being the Unstoppable Force, the Immovable Object is reduced to rubble (at one point, while I don't remember exactly what it was, the Hulk destroyed something of Dr. Strange's that was supposedly indestructable).
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Also BEFORE he got like, 10000x faster and X times stronger.

 

Stop talking about Death Battle, because it no longer means anything.

It only doesn't becasuse of Super Saiyan God. All the rest of the fact still stand, especially when concerning how bad Broly got his ass beat. Twice.

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After the however-long-the-second-half-of-the-movie-was fight sequence.

 

Still not understanding.

First half of movie: Z- Fighters getting destroyed

Second half of the movie: Piccolo and Vegeta are now joining and getting beat up. They're all down and Goku is getting thrown around and stomped on. Broly was toying with him. Goku asks for the remainder of everyone's power. "Now the real battle begins" Broly is punched.

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Still not understanding.

First half of movie: Z- Fighters getting destroyed

Second half of the movie: Piccolo and Vegeta are now joining and getting beat up. They're all down and Goku is getting thrown around and stomped on. Broly was toying with him. Goku asks for the remainder of everyone's power. "Now the real battle begins" Broly is punched.

Way to miss my point entirely. Broly still lost, irregardless.

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Goku at his peak (with Goku's power being overestimated to give him a better chance) is no match for Superman.

 

A severely weakened Goku + the remaining power of his severely weakened friends was enough to beat Broly in a single punch.

 

What that means for Broly against Superman seems simple enough to figure out.

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just that he stood as much of a chance as Hulk

 

Which he doesn't. Combined with my previous post about Hulk and the pocket universe destroying, another example of the difference between them is that I don't think Broly could survive being on the sun.

 

Meanwhile the Hulk has withstood hotter temperatures than those of the sun's photosphere (like when he swam through the core of planet Sakaar in order to pull it back together after someone tried to destroy it), and has even withstood a supernova, with the average supernova being much much hotter than the sun's core. Combined with his abilities to gain power from and manipulate gamma radiation (of which the sun gives off a lot), being on the sun would probably help the Hulk out. And by "manipulate gamma radiation", I mean like he's a bender from Avatar: The Last Airbender, just with gamma radiation.

 

And if you're wondering about him being in the vacuum of space, his body can adapt to allow him to breath in space (like the time he grew gills in order to breath underwater, just better), and he's been in space before just fine. Went about smashing asteroids and stuff.

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Which he doesn't. Combined with my previous post about Hulk and the pocket universe destroying, another example of the difference between them is that I don't think Broly could survive being on the sun.

Superman isn't the sun though. I'm sure in terms of durability they have differences. Though I feel like Hulk would lose against Broly,

 

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C'mon now.

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