jabber2033 Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Basically what the title says. It's just something I think we need. Half the cards/sets in the Realistic Cards section have terrible grammar. I know there used to be an Official Card Grammar thread in the past. We need an updated one pinned a the top of both the Singles and Archetypes sections. Granted half the new members probably won't read it, but we can always suggest it to them or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyng's Old Account Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 I support this, having suggested it to Koko via Skype earlier with no response as of yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
вєgσттєη ιηѕαηιту Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Totally agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 What happened to the old one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 What exactly do you mean by "Official Card Grammar Thread"? Like a guide for how to properly write out card grammar? A topic where people can post their grammar and ask for fixes on it? Some other third thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabber2033 Posted April 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 What exactly do you mean by "Official Card Grammar Thread"? Like a guide for how to properly write out card grammar? A topic where people can post their grammar and ask for fixes on it? Some other third thing? The first one. What happened to the old one? That one was never pinned. People stopped commenting on it, and it dropped off the first page. No idea how far back it is now, but it probably needs an update what with all the new grammar updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 The first one. That one was never pinned. People stopped commenting on it, and it dropped off the first page. No idea how far back it is now, but it probably needs an update what with all the new grammar updates. No, it was pinned. It got unpinned then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabber2033 Posted April 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 No, it was pinned. It got unpinned then? I guess so. Still, that one is probably around the 50th page by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Fascinating. Who do you want to make this topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Wouldn't re-pinning the old thread do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabber2033 Posted May 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Wouldn't re-pinning the old thread do? Probably, but doesn't it need updates? It's been quite a while since that one. Fascinating. Who do you want to make this topic? Absolutely no idea. It was just a suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelfore Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Would you be referring to this, or maybe this? I do agree, a freshly stickied OCG thread would be helpful. As for who makes it, probably whomever's most familiar with the games lingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 The most recent one was made by Sleepy, it seemed to have gotten hidden or deleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabber2033 Posted May 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Would you be referring to this, or maybe this? Those are exactly what I'm talking about. They should be updated though. Card grammar has been changed a bit since '09. And it's the Realistic Singles/Archetypes sections that need them the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Wouldn't re-pinning the old thread do?No. As everyone else who beat me to it already said, they need updating.Absolutely no idea. It was just a suggestion.And in there lies the problem.Come with a fully formed suggestions and the mods'll review it and get it done. If it's just something stupid and vague like: "Make this guide!" of course it's gonna get shut down.If your suggestion however is: "I made this guide, using Raver's and Sleepy's as a a base but expanded upon it and updated it. Can we sticky it so new players can... whatever?" then it might actually stand a chance of actually being considered seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Still, having an un-updated one there is better than none at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 No it isn't.The only thing worse than having ignorant people is having ignorant people who think they are right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 No it isn't. The only thing worse than having ignorant people is having ignorant people who think they are right Some YCMembers use un-updated OCG anyway, and it isn't that bothersome, though most no longer do, thanks to the OCG guides. What I mean is old pre-PSCT is better than stuff like: http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/300906-card/ http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/300860-new-spell-card/ I haven't looked at Sleepy's guide for a while now, but I don't remember it being outdated at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 I have been working on something for a while now that heavily explains OCG and common Yu-Gi-Oh terms, and I used Sleepy's thread to help. In the spoiler below, there's all the words (plus a few I added) that Sleepy had, I don't have her thing about targets though, but in case Sleepy wants to repost it and have lost it go ahead. EDIT: Some of these words might be wrongly capitalized, Word has a thing about changing them at times, but I checked them, and as far as I can see, they are correct. [spoiler=words] activate add additional adjacent ATK/DEF attach attack Attack Position Attribute banish Battle Damage become Chain Link coin column conduct Continuous Spell Card Continuous Trap Card control copy/copies Counters Counter Trap Card damage Deck declare decrease Defense Position destroy detach discard draw DRAW Duel during Effect Damage Effect Monster Equip Equip Card Equip Spell Card Extra Deck face-down face-up field Field Spell Card flip FLIP FLIP Monster Fusion Material Monster Fusion Monster gain Gemini Gemini Monster Graveyard hand increase inflict Level Life Points loose Main Deck Match monster Monster Card Zone monster effect Normal Monster Normal Spell Card Normal Trap Card opponent or pay piercing Place player Quick-Play Spell Card Rank return reveal Ritual Monster Ritual Spell Card send Set shuffle Side Deck six-sided die Spell & Trap Card Zone Spell Card Spirit Spirit Monster Summon switch Synchro Material Monster Synchro Monster take control target Token Toon Toon Monster toss Trap Card Tuner Tuner Monster Union Union Monster Unoccupied way Xyz Material Xyz Monster [/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BT Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 I agree and support for either OCG or just grammar.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Fascinating. Who do you want to make this topic? HI, my name is Agro. Well, actually, I won't be around here for much longer, so it wouldn't be the best idea for the topic to be POSTED by me, but I could definitely write one up and have a member who's more likely to be here long-term to post it and, inevitably edit it for when changes come around. On the other hand, it may be better to just post a pinned thread ASKING for OCG fixes, since that sort of thing is frowned upon in the actual topics that get posted. It'd be a lot like the Rulings thread in TCG. Hell, we could even get Darkwolf and evilfusion to "work" in it like they do in the rulings thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 I've been thinking about overhauling my OCG guide for a while now, since phrases don't really mean much if you don't know how to put them together. I could very easily make some changes (with input and help from other members of course) to my guide to better teach about how all this stuff works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 I've always asked for any OCG help in the Rulings thread anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 I've been thinking about overhauling my OCG guide for a while now, since phrases don't really mean much if you don't know how to put them together. I could very easily make some changes (with input and help from other members of course) to my guide to better teach about how all this stuff works.If you can do an OCG guide, I'll be more than happy to have it stickied in every single CC section. Then we can keep them open in Realistic Cards so that people can get OCG fixes. How do people feel about this idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 If you can do an OCG guide, I'll be more than happy to have it stickied in every single CC section. Then we can keep them open in Realistic Cards so that people can get OCG fixes. How do people feel about this idea? I am working on something like that as well, featuring explations of how to use PSTC, common phrases, OCG words and explanations with examples and a lot more. It's mostly done and is almost ready to realease, I have a Word document if anybody is interested, it's kind of rough, but it's gonna get fixed up if I make it a thread: http://www.mediafire.com/view/?jjioor6x0tyqz57 There's of course a lot more I can cover, AND as you can see, the word list explanations is kind of limited, but since people are kind of asking for it, I could make a thread for it. I'm also glad to help Bringerofcake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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