Bfmvrocks Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Yahtzee = ....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Crab, you must be aware that Valley is not used only in Magical Explosion FTK. DAD decks also used them. If DAD is banned, FTK will take over, and if Valley is banned, then the game will be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Crab' date=' you must be aware that Valley is not used only in Magical Explosion FTK.[/quote'] That's precisely why it's staying and Explosion is leaving. Explosion is only useful in its own little deck; Valley can be used elsewhere for less broken purposes. DAD decks also used them. In a good format' date=' there would be no DAD decks to use them. If DAD is banned, FTK will take over, and if Valley is banned, then the game will be fair. Prove that banning DAD, Explosion, and Dimension Fusion will not solve the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 what? I'm agreeing with you that a format without DAD, Valley, and Dimension Fusion would be fair...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 what? I'm agreeing with you that a format without DAD' date=' Valley, and Dimension Fusion would be fair...????[/quote'] Except you're not agreeing with me; you want Valley banned, and I want it unlimited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Grandmaster I have to agree with being banned. agreed and CoSR should be at least limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 I don't understand how Sillva or Goldd needs CoSR' date=' it won't do anything.[/quote'] Erm, believe me, they need it, in my experience in playing an Dark World Deck, you run out of an hand pretty fast and CoSR helps you get some cards Well, IMO it should be Semi-Limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 lol they benefit from it, but far from need it. Just because Grandmaster overextends, doesn't necessarily mean he rewards overextending. The WRA effect is great and all, but there's still this cool option that people seem to forget existed, Battle Phase. Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys was limited and it sure as hell wasn't worthy; GM is no different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 yes i think so cause they affect Zombie's (i dont see them now but still), Dark World's which are used widly now and Six Samurai's can find i use and this can make decks even more overpowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Prove that banning DAD' date=' Explosion, and Dimension Fusion will not solve the problem.[/quote'] I never said that that would solve the problem. we were agreed on that. Just because i didnt say i dont want explosion and Fusion banned, doesnt mean i dont want them banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Supreme Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Agreed this card should be Banned, it has an unlimited amount of +, thus might get more than 4+ a turn, that is just too much. Ban CoSR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Man, I always arrive late to these things. What did I miss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XanderTheGreat Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Same here. And CoSR deserves the banhammer. Not zombies abuse it, but now dragons can abuse it as well thanks to Redrum. Arms Hole/Premature Burial makes it even nastier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Supreme Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 ^Exactly. I laugh at those that say this card should not be touched. I wish for once, I actually get to a discussion 1 min after it starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Magical Explosion does not deserve to be killed for one reason. It's easy to counter. In fact, you can win the game with your opponent's own Magical Explosion if you're not stupid and side deck correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Magical Explosion does not deserve to be killed for one reason. It's easy to counter. In fact' date=' you can win the game with your opponent's own Magical Explosion if you're not stupid and side deck correctly.[/quote'] wait what, Magical Explosion? We are talking about Card of Safe Return here Slayer And, yeah, I have changed my mind, CoSR should be banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mushi the Holy Dark Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 If it makes Certain Decks Viable then why ban it? To be honest i still haven't recovered from the Fact Monster Reborn is Legal again. I've never used COSR myself and it definatly isn't Ban-Worthy. And besides COSR can easily be MST'd Dust Tornadoed or even Twistered! That's exactly my argument. However' date=' Crab Helmet's problem with the card is certainly valid. He just has different priorities.[/quote'] CoTH was a trade for giving us Monster Reborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Supreme Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 ^A good trade, CoTH < MR ( Note the the above poster: Can you please crop out some parts of your Sig, or just Resize it a little, it is streching the screen ) Because you started to understand that this card can give you an unlimited amount of + right. This card will just keep getting better by the release of boosters. Once people notice the unlimited advantage, they will run it, alot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 it's bad that they realesed Monster Reborn. now this card can be abused much more. it isn't a good trade cause noobs can abuse MR and that isnt good, at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMNISGwahahaha Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 COSR only works with Zombie and Exodia decks. It should be Limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 if you are soo good at the game why are you complaining about 1 card that really only works well with 1 deck that n00bs wouldnt think about using anyway heavy storm ok there is one gone, mst second one gone you have onle to worry about chances are he wont even get to use it :S i really do not see what you are complaining about lol protector of the sanctuary XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 COSR only works with Zombie and Exodia decks. It should be Limited. try Dark World and Six Samurai's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XanderTheGreat Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 COSR only works with Zombie and Exodia decks. It should be Limited. Dark World. Six Samurai. Dragon. And anything that runs Arms Hole/Premature Burial. If you like to play Disk Commander, then you have an almost unstoppable drawing machine. Ban CoSR. That's all there is to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axiom_Nor Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Don't forget Gigaplant Swarm decks. honestly, it should be limited/semi-ed. but, look at what UPPERDECK is doing to the banlist, crap. so, they wouldn't ban it soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfmvrocks Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 I don't understand how Sillva or Goldd needs CoSR' date=' it won't do anything.[/quote'] Erm, believe me, they need it, in my experience in playing an Dark World Deck, you run out of an hand pretty fast and CoSR helps you get some cards Srsly? [Re: Goldd' date= Wu-Lord of Dark World] If "Goldd, Wu-Lord of Dark World" is discarded by your opponent's card effect, when his effect resolves, he is Special Summoned first, and then the second part of his effect resolves. So the opponent cannot activate "Bottomless Trap Hole" or "Torrential Tribute"; the timing is no longer correct. Also, you could not draw a card for the effect of "Card of Safe Return". [Re: Sillva, Warlord of Dark World] If "Sillva, Warlord of Dark World" is discarded by your opponent's card effect, when his effect resolves, he is Special Summoned first, and then the second part of his effect resolves. So the opponent cannot activate "Bottomless Trap Hole" or "Torrential Tribute"; the timing is no longer correct. Also, you could not draw a card for the effect of "Card of Safe Return". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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