Elemental HERO Electrum

[Judαs]

This is the real problem card. When Blaze Fenix is done burning, this card comes in at starts everything again

 

And it's also a part of an Exodia OTK, by recycling all banished to repeatedly make Lavalval Chains and Constellar Ptolemy to dump the pieces into Grave and retreive them.

 

 

 

"Elemental HERO Avian" + "Elemental HERO Burstinatrix" + "Elemental HERO Clayman" + "Elemental HERO Bubbleman"Must be Fusion Summoned and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. While face-up on the field, this card is also WIND, WATER, FIRE, and EARTH-Attribute. When this card is Fusion Summoned: Shuffle all banished cards into the Deck(s). This card gains 300 ATK for each monster your opponent controls that shares an Attribute with this card.

 

 

This card is the fuel for all the loops.

Also it's wearing like a thong or something.

Ban please.

[mido9]

It's JUST as usable outside of OTKs and FTKs as fenix.

[Miror B]

Chain Material is the problem card I thought .-.

[Blake]

Yes, and FGD is the problem with Future Fusion.

 

Chain Material is the problem with all the OTKs it makes.

 

Blaze Fenix is the problem with Harpie Dancer.

 

This isn't the problem with either.

[Aerion Brightflame]

Why don't we just kill Chain Material? Since isn't that causing all the loops in the first place, not to mention it doesn't exactly do anything but inspire OTK's.

[Sora1499]

[quote name="Overlord Barty" post="6175385" timestamp="1365099041"]Why don't we just kill Chain Material? Since isn't that causing all the loops in the first place, not to mention it doesn't exactly do anything but inspire OTK's.[/quote] This would actually be a good idea. All them broken fusion cards man.

[Judαs]

If Blaze was at 1/0, Chain Material at 3, This was at 0/1, it would be fine and at least other non-loop decks using Chain Material would be able to use it tho

 

Like roids, although no one plays them.

 

thus:

1 Blaze can't OTK (still burns 3600 with Dancer, ouch)

Chain Material can still be played

Everyone is happy

[Blake]

If Blaze was at 1, Chain Material at 3, This was at 0, it would be fine and at least other non-loop decks using Chain Material would be able to use it tho

 

Like roids, although no one plays them.

So... Chain Material supports 1 casual deck, while enabling many, many OTKs?

 

Hell. have you seen Aero Shark OTK? It doesn't use Electrum, but it still OTKs with Chain Material. Is it consistent? No, but it's still proof that Chain Material can OTK without this.

[Aerion Brightflame]

If Blaze was at 1, Chain Material at 3, This was at 0, it would be fine and at least other non-loop decks using Chain Material would be able to use it tho

 

Like roids, although no one plays them.

 

thus:

1 Blaze can't OTK

Chain Material can still be played

Everyone is happy

 

Is there even a deck in existance that doesn't use Chain for loop though? Because I can't really think of one.

 

And it's kinda just skirting around the problem, and restricting future card design. Killing chain stops that.

[~British Soul~]

I agree with Barty here, I would much rather have Chain Material be at 0 tbh.

[Miror B]

If Blaze was at 1/0, Chain Material at 3, This was at 0/1, it would be fine and at least other non-loop decks using Chain Material would be able to use it tho

 

Like roids, although no one plays them.

 

thus:

1 Blaze can't OTK (still burns 3600 with Dancer, ouch)

Chain Material can still be played

Everyone is happy

So what about the casual HERO decks that use Elecrum?

Or Casual Fire/Machine decks that use Blaze Phoenix?

Are Roids more important than those?

[Wildflame]

I've been saying that Chain Material needs to be banned since I started playing the game :/

 

OT: Sadly, this can't be played without Chain Material. 4 specific fusion materials?, ew.

[Azuh]

Anyone saying Electrum should be banned is bad. 4 specific materials means it won't ever be used outside Chain Material, even then, having those 4 materials really clogs the Deck. Similar to why Roids are such a bad archetype.

[Resident Fascist]

So instead of the card that makes the loops possible (Chain Material), or the ones that deal the damage for the FTK (Gustaph Max/Blaze Fenix), the problem card is instead the card that really does nothing bad for the game outside of these loops, where as the other 3 are just pure awfulness?

 

Keep it classy, YCM.

[玄魔の王]

This is the real problem card. When Blaze Fenix is done burning, this card comes in at starts everything again

 

And it's also a part of an Exodia OTK, by recycling all banished to repeatedly make Lavalval Chains and Constellar Ptolemy to dump the pieces into Grave and retreive them.

 

This card is the fuel for all the loops.

Also it's wearing like a thong or something.

Ban please.

[spoiler="My Reaction to everything you just said"]

[/spoiler]

 

You're blaming a Fusion Monster with 4 specific materials and an effect that's really only useful with Chain Material (and don't say Gate HEROs, because Shining does that infinitely better) is the problem card in loops that use Chain Material. Did you get your reasoning from the Perry Mason school of Logic?

 

There are loops that use Blaze Fenix and not this, there are loops that use this and not Blaze Fenix Aside from Harpie Dancer, all of them use Chain Material. THAT is the real problem card. Yes Chain Material inspires creative decks, so did Future Fusion.

So instead of the card that makes the loops possible (Chain Material), or the ones that deal the damage for the FTK (Gustaph Max/Blaze Fenix), the problem card is instead the card that really does nothing bad for the game outside of these loops, where as the other 3 are just pure awfulness?

 

Keep it classy, YCM.

Somebody sig this.