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Was watching abunch of Achievement Hunter stuff and I somehow chained my way to Volume 3 with the Winter vs Qrow fight and I just remembered, Penny's still dead. funk, I was hoping she'd get rebuilt or something this Volume. Maybe next time.

 

Penny will be rebuilt, but it will happen much later in hopes that most fans have forgotten about her- thus making it more of a surprise when she does reappear.

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If we were talking about Pyrrha I'd agree with you, but with Penny since the moment she died I've been like, "Oh funk... So when's she getting rebuilt?" I've not once thought she'd be gone forever.

 

And while it was a very sad thing for Ruby, she didn't know her that well (and the other characters knew her even less). They didn't spend much time together and I feel like her death was very quickly brushed aside and forgotten, she's not been mentioned or brought up or anything. When/If she is rebuilt I don't think that'd remove any significant impact to character development or anything.

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Really? I was honestly impacted way harder by Penny's death than Pyrrha's. Admittedly, this is partially due to me thinking pyrrha had always been a really boring character. She was sorta a symbol of innocence, and she was mostly unrelated to the conflict at hand, making her death all the more brutal.

 

And, though her death was overshadowed by Pyrrha's (which makes sense, since 75% of RNJR used to be on a team with her), she was repeatedly referenced through volume 3 after her death, with Ruby using one of her blades to fend off the Nevermore, and Velvet using her weapon to replicate it to incredible effect against the paladins.

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I was mostly talking about Volume 4 but even in the rest of 3 after her death I'm not even sure if they mentioned or talked about her out loud once. After the Nevermore blew her body away that was sort of it.

 

Also, not sure if any of you will get this but what chained me towards my reminder of Penny was this video someone made after Achievement Hunter did a Lets Play of Grimm Eclipse (Jeremy was playing Weiss, Michael who is Sun was Yang, Lindsay who is Ruby was Ruby, and Ryan who is Professor Port was Blake), I thought it was pretty funny.

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Really? I was honestly impacted way harder by Penny's death than Pyrrha's. Admittedly, this is partially due to me thinking pyrrha had always been a really boring character. She was sorta a symbol of innocence, and she was mostly unrelated to the conflict at hand, making her death all the more brutal.

 

And, though her death was overshadowed by Pyrrha's (which makes sense, since 75% of RNJR used to be on a team with her), she was repeatedly referenced through volume 3 after her death, with Ruby using one of her blades to fend off the Nevermore, and Velvet using her weapon to replicate it to incredible effect against the paladins.

 

I get what you're talking about, but I can't really view Penny's death this way if that's how they choose to deliver it.

 

For one, it just... Makes so little sense. Her 'father' is built up as a great designer/inventor/whatever, and he's clearly living up to it if he was able to create something like Penny, but he doesn't have the information from her design, or her personality/data backed up at all? I can get if someone gets to him, he dies, the information is wiped and then no one can rebuild her, that I could understand. If they never address this, and he just so happened to never back anything up...? It would just be this big, gaping... Idiot ball from her father that would really turn me off the series.

 

I would understand if she comes back not quite the same, or it feels hallow or something, but they better have a damn good reason that she can't return if they go that route, cause it's the route that needs the most justification. And... Some of the writing decisions from RWBY lately makes me question if they can handle that kinda thing. >:T

 

For the record, I'm not commenting on the impact of her death vs Pyrrha's. I personally hurt a lot during both of them, but mostly because of how stupid it was to kill off Pyrrha how they did. It was obviously going to happen, but it wasn't done well.

 

Not to mention I'm still salty over Roman's death. That's some dumb sheet. Kill off our popular villain! We don't need a villain that people love to see on screen, we can't do anything with that! Bah.

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It is important to keep in mind that Penny is a prototype, the first and only of her kind, so interfacing to back up data may not have been an option. Not to mention that much of what made Penny herself was the experiences (albeit few, but impactful) she gained with Ruby, so it is quite likely that if a new Penny was built, it wouldn't be the one we know and love.

 

Not to mention that it is super possible that her father is just funking dead. It was a pretty bad day, especially for those in atlas ships.

 

 

 

Roman's death was very abrupt, and mostly unwarranted, but it is important to keep in mind that initially he was only going to be in the first season. I can't really imagine how he would have fit into the plot developments with volume 4. An interesting point to remember, though, is that Neopolitan is definitely still alive, and very strong, so we may see her again in some capacity.

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It is important to keep in mind that Penny is a prototype, the first and only of her kind, so interfacing to back up data may not have been an option. Not to mention that much of what made Penny herself was the experiences (albeit few, but impactful) she gained with Ruby, so it is quite likely that if a new Penny was built, it wouldn't be the one we know and love.

 

Not to mention that it is super possible that her father is just funking dead. It was a pretty bad day, especially for those in atlas ships.

 

 

 

Roman's death was very abrupt, and mostly unwarranted, but it is important to keep in mind that initially he was only going to be in the first season. I can't really imagine how he would have fit into the plot developments with volume 4. An interesting point to remember, though, is that Neopolitan is definitely still alive, and very strong, so we may see her again in some capacity.

 

Okay, so, that's totally fair, yeah. If they bring it up again, and they say something about the protoype information not being nearly enough to recreate her, maybe that works too! It's not so much I want her to be rebuilt, I want them to ACKNOWLEDGE why she can't be, and not just... Coast by it without bringing it up ever again. Her father being dead would totally work with that idea, I mentioned that in my post. -v-

 

I just really want it to not be an idiot ball moment.

 

Roman's death is an issue of, "You've made this character that's so interesting, that people love to see, and you're not even going to try to make use of him?" It's an issue that they could have very well made room for him, Cinder could have brought him along after he made his use more apparent, it could have been added tension among the group or something. But saying that he wouldn't fit in isn't really a good reason, when they could have made the room for a character that's as well received as Roman. Especially since the reason they KEPT Roman was that he was as well received as he was. It's like they forgot why they kept him.

 

Neo though, I still very much hope to see next season. I'll be disappointed if they just put her on a bus...

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Roman's death was so abrupt I didn't think he had actually died for the longest time, I figure he would come back later, it wasn't until people were talking about it that I realized he was actually dead. And speaking of villains I hope we really get into stuff with Adam next volume.

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[spoiler=Thoughts on Volume 4 finale]

Not gonna lie, I wasn't expecting the Grimm to have stretchy arms to be perfectly honest. I would've liked Ren to do more in the fight, but the fight was fine nonetheless.

The scene when Ruby was writing the letter to Yang had a lot of emotion between the insert song and how Ruby spoke.

It was interesting to see Weiss get out safely and Yang catching up on her bike, and her new attire is pretty neat as well.

The post-credits scene with Qrow and Oscar was cool. I'm also interested in seeing how the Oscar/Ozpin thing will pan out.

 

 

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Can we please just call him Ozcar.

 

[spoiler=A thought I had, having just watched world of remnant: the great war]

It mentions the King of Vale going into battle, armed only with his sword and scepter. Off of this line, I have two crackpot theories.

 

I think the king is the old man/ozpin. It would explain the immense power he somehow managed to wield. The scepter could be what is now the cane, used to control his powers to great effect, like we saw when Ozpin fought cinder.

 

Here is the doozy. I think the king is also Jaune's great-great grandfather, meaning the sword he used is the sword Jaune now carries. Since the very beginning, I have thought Jaune was destined for greatness, beyond that of everyone else. In the original opening, there is that shot of Jaune looking at the statue in the courtyard, with a huntsman carrying a sword that matches crocea mors. This huntsman very well could have been the king.

 

Plus, if both my crackpot theories are correct, it explains why Jaune was appointed leader of JNPR, rather than Pyrrha. Ozpin, who would have the memories and experiences of the king within him, would know that Jaune was destined for greatness.

 

The biggest kink in this theory is that Ozpin's soul didn't inhabit Jaune. If it was an option, it would have clearly been the correct one. That said, it is very possible that it wasn't an option. Oscar seems pretty freaking random, to be honest, and even without my theory, if Ozpin could choose who his soul would inhabit, it probably would have been Qrow or Ironwood.

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I was imagining a Wall-e scenario where they rebuild her body but at first she has no personality or anything and then some power of friendship happens or something that fixes her soul or something.

I understand that the end of wall-e was touching and it definitely made me cry but it was also really funking stupid.
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I am aware that I'm necrobumping this thread, but I feel that this is relevant;

Recently Rooster Teeth announced windowing changes, meaning that First Members see episodes a week before non-First RT site members/public. Why is this relevant? This was brought up when non-First RT site members were confused that they couldn't watch RvB a day after it went up for First Members, and a post was made regarding this a couple of days ago. Ofc the reason why I'm bringing it up in this thread is because I want to make sure you guys (ie those of you who are non-First RT site members) are aware of this (if you aren't already) before Vol 5 starts.

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I am aware that I'm necrobumping this thread, but I feel that this is relevant;

Recently Rooster Teeth announced windowing changes, meaning that First Members see episodes a week before the public. Why is this relevant? This was brought up when non-First site members were confused that they couldn't watch RvB a day after it went up for First Members, and a post was made regarding this a couple of days ago. Ofc the reason why I'm bringing it up in this thread is because I want to make sure you guys are aware of this (if you aren't already) before Vol 5 starts.

They did this with RWBY in Volume 4.

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