(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 I can't deny that. His deck wasn't even that bad, though it was really straightforward and the only reason why he lasted that long was that I bricked hard at the start. Can't deny that it's still more skillful than Tellarknights...I really wouldn't have had anything against that guy if he didn't act like a total jerk.F*ck Sattellarknights. Little to no strategy. This is why one reason I side Light-Imprisoning Mirror in my deck. This is ignorant as sheet. Tellars are a very skill-intensive meta deck, requiring a good pilot to maximize their efficiency. Their design is simple, and somewhat generic, yes, but this does not make them skilless, and it does not mean they have no skill. It is one thing to say a deck is too good, or too consistent, but calling a deck skilless or strategyless when you really have very little meta knowledge is one of the things that bugs me in this thread the most. It is fine if you want to play casually, but pretending that it somehow makes you superior to those who are using actual competitive decks is just delusional. I don't give a funk if you are competitive or not. It has nothing to do with me. But please don't sheet on the competitive environment you don't even know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 Puh-leese. It's a Rank 4 spam that has literally 3 plays, one of which is hiding behind backrow they can only run because they have a dedicated solemn warning that lets them draw and because of the stupidity that is the Seraph Engine. Nekroz requires more strategy, and that's a deck based on not letting your opponent play. Hell, QLIPHORT could require more skill now that Saqlifice is at 1 and Scout at 2, because at least Qliphort now are forced to include some ED monsters and some plays that are not "Pendulum, Tribute, pop random stuff, attack for game". Meanwhile, Satellarknights have free plusses, floating bosses and spamming galore. Not to mention that they use the Seraph engine, which is the sackiest thing ever bar Lightsworns. I really can't see how such a thing could be called "skilled". Jfc will you stop complaining already? Go lick the salt of your anooos / go play with the decks that you like and stop jabroniing about what the competitive decks run. Apparently, Tanng activates after the damage step and I have no idea what the funk the guy said before quitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 Could anyone tell me how to post screenshots here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 Could anyone tell me how to post screenshots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 The little camera button in the top-right corner is your friend.I know that already. But what I'm asking is how do I post them on this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astolfo Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 By posting the link in the tags like: [img=link here] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 Puh-leese. It's a Rank 4 spam that has literally 3 plays, one of which is hiding behind backrow they can only run because they have a dedicated solemn warning that lets them draw and because of the stupidity that is the Seraph Engine. Nekroz requires more strategy, and that's a deck based on not letting your opponent play. Hell, QLIPHORT could require more skill now that Saqlifice is at 1 and Scout at 2, because at least Qliphort now are forced to include some ED monsters and some plays that are not "Pendulum, Tribute, pop random stuff, attack for game". Meanwhile, Satellarknights have free plusses, floating bosses and spamming galore. Not to mention that they use the Seraph engine, which is the sackiest thing ever bar Lightsworns. I really can't see how such a thing could be called "skilled". Actually, most competitive Tellar decks don't use Seraphs, because they prefer a more backrow-oriented playstyle. As for Nekroz being a deck based on not letting your opponent play... um what? If you mean djinn lock, that is literally 1 play in the deck, and hardly its defining feature. Nekroz are based on consistently pulling value off of trishula and valkyrus. As for qliphort requiring more skill because they now have less searchers... How exactly is that the case? By your definition, skill is equal to dependence on luck, which makes literally no sense. Could you define what you mean by "skill" so that it isn't just used as a meaningless hotword? When was the last time you actually used a meta deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 By posting the link in the tags like: [img=link here]Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 A few rounds on DN do not a competitive environment make. Anyway, it is clear that your irrational hatred for good decks won't change, so I am not going to to to explain any more. For another topic, what should I play over the weekend to see if I get any decent screenshots?-Nekrozdolls-Seraphdolls-Volcanic-Qliphort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 We all run into these on Dueling Network. They make us question what made them quit so early? Did they have little-to-no time, or did they draw a brick hand. Surely, we'll never know. [img=http://i.imgur.com/wYsCEOn.png] [img=http://i.imgur.com/oZUWg3L.png] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 If you want a competitive environment based on skill, play chess, Giga.If you don't want a competitive environment based on skill, why were you complaining about the competitive environment being skilless..? Also, about to head out for a weekend of parties, so no need to continue this tail-chasing argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo. Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 Jfc will you stop complaining already? Go lick the salt of your anooos / go play with the decks that you like and stop b****ing about what the competitive decks run. Apparently, Tanng activates after the damage step and I have no idea what the f*** the guy said before quitting. Basically he said "Go F**k yourself, you s****y pig with a double chin"I like to complain, so what? Also, what that guy said is something very, very rude and you don't want to know what it means, trust me. Honestly, it makes me really sad that so many of my compatriots seem to be part of that obnoxious, rude and childish part of the DN population...YOU're ITALIAN TOO???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 yo qliphort DEFINITELY take more skill than tellarknights. But for real, please remember that you actually have an opponent to play against so all these awesome perfect "summon deneb, make rank 4" scenarios are not going to happen most of the time. You need to make decisions when to use your cards to make sure you're able to push your cards through while stopping your opponent just beating you (Alpha is the card responsible for most of these different plays), as well as digging deep into games where you can't instantly access Deneb. Just because a deck is consistently beating mediocre decks that aren't as good at punishing misplays doesn't mean it's not skilless to play when you're playing actual good decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 I think the main problem I have with tellarknights, along with a few other decks (though mainly tellars) isn't anything to do with the skill level required to play but the fact they are so unimaginative. They are just yet another rank 4 spam deck, and they lack any sort of gimmick or feature to make them interesting. They are basically a clone of Constellars. In any game with multiple choices it requires skill to play, unless the other options are so blatantly obviously bad that you would never do it except for a joke. Anyway this is deviating from the purpose of this thread so I don't think any more should be said about skill etc here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 I think the main problem I have with tellarknights, along with a few other decks (though mainly tellars) isn't anything to do with the skill level required to play but the fact they are so unimaginative. They are just yet another rank 4 spam deck, and they lack any sort of gimmick or feature to make them interesting. They are basically a clone of Constellars. In any game with multiple choices it requires skill to play, unless the other options are so blatantly obviously bad that you would never do it except for a joke. Anyway this is deviating from the purpose of this thread so I don't think any more should be said about skill etc here.Well, some of their cards do list "tellar" instead of the whole archetype name, similar to "lswarm". Skill aside, one thing you forgot to mention is the "tellar" Xyz that'd allow you to Summon Cyber Dragon Nova and of course, Cyber Dragon Infinity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 This guy actually used Zephyros's effect when he had 100 LP left. He actually funking did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Fire Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 common is now... 1 archetype does it.... and only that archetype... running reasoning in Lightsworn doesn't seem like the best idea, since save what 3 monsters, you can normal summon every single card in the archetype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Using Brionac in grave and Shaddoll Falco in hand as tributes for Valkyrus feels awesome, especially when you can then banish the discarded Falco and a Herald in grave for BLS. I love this deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Nyx Avatar Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Basically a middle finger to people heavily dependent on back row. It's awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 [spoiler=sigh...] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarlandChaos Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 This guy is actually using Kamionwizard, of all things, in an FTK deck. He had Toon Table of Contents and Toon Cannon Soldier. Any ideas of what the flying funk this guy was running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Kamionwizard is the only DARK level four fusion monster. This has caused it to see play in various decks teching instant fusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Backstory: Summoner's Art => Adds Apoqliphort Towers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr47t Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Your basic monarch-styled deadly lockdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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