Althemia Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Thanks for calling me terrible, so many reason for during such. This forum is completely horrible.If it's so bad then go to a good forum like Pojo.Though Star Chart is awful. Seriously. It doesn't contribute anything to the deck by itself, so therefore it doesn't belong in Constellar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted March 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 If it's so bad then go to a good forum like Pojo.Though Star Chart is awful. Seriously. It doesn't contribute anything to the deck by itself, so therefore it doesn't belong in Constellar.Except by playing 2-3 you get an extra Draw, where you can pick up an extra Firefist or Tenki after you Xyz Summon so if your monster gets destroyed, you have more cards to use afterwards, plus since you can at any time get that Rank 6 guy, you can just return the cards to your hand, and use them again (as they don't "only once per turn", which means you can get a ton of cards). I really don't see why an Xyz heavy deck shouldn't be using this card. But if you people really say so, I'll take both out and add some more staples I don't need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Except by playing 2-3 you get an extra Draw, where you can pick up an extra Firefist or Tenki after you Xyz Summon so if your monster gets destroyed, you have more cards to use afterwards, plus since you can at any time get that Rank 6 guy, you can just return the cards to your hand, and use them again (as they don't "only once per turn", which means you can get a ton of cards). I really don't see why an Xyz heavy deck shouldn't be using this card. But if you people really say so, I'll take both out and add some more staples I don't need. Allow me to list reasons: A. No, you get an inconsistent draw that doesn't reward you for Xyzing, only Xyzing into a Constellar. While not hard, it doesn't do ANYTHING for a non-Constellar, which Tiras/Paladius should be fairly common go-tos. B. It is the worst top deck ever. C. It doesn't do anything. It's a somewhat situational draw that is an inherent -1 until it pays for itself in the form of a Constellar Xyz: Except, wait, unless you have multiples, waste Pleiades on it, or used Sombres, the summon is /still/ a -1, and this will never pay itself off. D. It does nothing but clog because of the fact that even a card like Upstart Goblin would do it better, in most cases. E. Pleiades -> Bounce Star Chart -> Overlay for Ptolemys is a bad play 99/100 times. It wastes your fucking win condition in order to draw 2. F. It doesn't warrant the space when bouncing it does not give a significant payoff as opposed to Safe Zone/Fiendish Chain/Etc. and doesn't give you any form of protection like lance, just gives you an insignificant draw >"Some more Staples I don't need" This is possibly the stupidest thing I've seen in ages, considering this has nothing to do with Spellbooks. Y'know, "I can draw into stuff" is also a fucking awful argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted March 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Allow me to list reasons: A. No, you get an inconsistent draw that doesn't reward you for Xyzing, only Xyzing into a Constellar. While not hard, it doesn't do ANYTHING for a non-Constellar, which Tiras/Paladius should be fairly common go-tos.B. It is the worst top deck ever.C. It doesn't do anything. It's a somewhat situational draw that is an inherent -1 until it pays for itself in the form of a Constellar Xyz: Except, wait, unless you have multiples, waste Pleiades on it, or used Sombres, the summon is /still/ a -1, and this will never pay itself off.D. It does nothing but clog because of the fact that even a card like Upstart Goblin would do it better, in most cases.E. Pleiades -> Bounce Star Chart -> Overlay for Ptolemys is a bad play 99/100 times. It wastes your fucking win condition in order to draw 2.F. It doesn't warrant the space when bouncing it does not give a significant payoff as opposed to Safe Zone/Fiendish Chain/Etc. and doesn't give you any form of protection like lance, just gives you an insignificant draw >"Some more Staples I don't need"This is possibly the stupidest thing I've seen in ages, considering this has nothing to do with Spellbooks. Y'know, "I can draw into stuff" is also a fucking awful argument....still not convinced really. I'll change it so you can stop bitching about it.EDIT: You say running 1 of something is bad, but I don't have enough room to run 2 of each, so it's either 2 Forbidden Lances or 2 Torrential Tributes. Personnally I would go with Tribute, but you are the master here it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 ...still not convinced really. I'll change it so you can stop bitching about it. You posted this deck up for fixes, so don't start complaining when people actually criticize your card choices. EDIT: You say running 1 of something is bad, but I don't have enough room to run 2 of each, so it's either 2 Forbidden Lances or 2 Torrential Tributes. Personnally I would go with Tribute, but you are the master here it seems. Ello ello, Star Chart is still in there. Such a hard decision on what to remove... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted March 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 You posted this deck up for fixes, so don't start complaining when people actually criticize your card choices. Ello ello, Star Chart is still in there. Such a hard decision on what to remove...I havn't changed anything yet, as still waiting for what Black has to say about TT and Forbidden Lance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 You're running a second Bear over a 2nd TT/Safe Zone Lance/ because? Yes, 2 Bear is applicable, but not in the name of cutting something else that's more important =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted March 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 You're running a second Bear over a 2nd TT/Safe Zone Lance/ because? Yes, 2 Bear is applicable, but not in the name of cutting something else that's more important =/Still not saying which other card I should put in. As you havn't told me yet, it won't be updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Can you even read? Get rid of the Star Charts and 2nd Bear, and add in one of each I mentioned. It's not that damn hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Can you even read?Get rid of the Star Charts and 2nd Bear, and add in one of each I mentioned. It's not that damn hard.1 + 1 = I don't get this, can you tell me the answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted March 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Can you even read?Get rid of the Star Charts and 2nd Bear, and add in one of each I mentioned. It's not that damn hard.I asked you which I should put in as the last of the 2 of each as you say is a good idea, I obviously have the others, I mean otherwise I would ask "Should I put an other Safe Zone etc. in?" and not what I said which was "I don't have enough room to run 2 of each, so it's either 2 Forbidden Lances or 2 Torrential Tributes" which means I had those two left in which I meant for you to choose from which to put in as the last card, as I already had put 2 of every other card in.Can you even read?Get rid of the Star Charts and 2nd Bear, and add in one of each I mentioned. It's not that damn hard.1 + 1 = I don't get this, can you tell me the answer? You clearly misunderstand what I'm asking here don't you, as I have those cards in there already.EDIT: You know what, let's just scrap all this fucking trainwrecking bullcrap, and start over shall we. I will put the new up in 2 seconds, and then we can all have a civil conversation where I won't bitch about anything anymore. It's not this kind of attitude I want over for you people, and I apoligize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 I told you what to take out and what to put in. Less Bear, no Charts, another Lance, another Zone, and another TT. This isn't hard. It's implied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted March 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 I told you what to take out and what to put in. Less Bear, no Charts, another Lance, another Zone, and another TT.This isn't hard. It's implied.Alright, I took a Bear out, no charts for the eye to see (but it hurts inside of me) an other Lance, an other Zone and yup you guessed it an other Torrential Tribute as well.EDIT: I got the new up, which should be to your liking unless I messed something up. Though I right now I feel like I'm using your Deck instead of what I had in mind, but I guess that's what I get for posting here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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