RP&D: Roleplay and Development

[WhyDidIJoinThis-.-]

I had an error when I tried accessing it directly from new notif, but I went onto notifications and clicked on latest page and it worked. Dunno if that's the problem you're speaking of?

[Aix]

Guize, we're not done here. Puke out some more ideas.

Okay, basically my plot idea combining some ideas discussed was something like:

The Dyson Sphere was made by a super scientist and magical researcher who then transferred himself into technomagical data so he would be immortal. His pride got the better of him as time went on and he thought that he should control the sphere as he was the one who created it. His coworkers stopped him, but the conflict was so massive, it destroyed entire civilizations and stuff. They managed to delete most of him, but kept a bit of him as he was the only one who knew the finer workings of the Dyson Sphere. As an additional precaution, they divided the Dyson Sphere into plates so that he could easily be quarantined.

Anyway, now the remaining scientists created an organisation to prevent any sort of messing around and catastrophe to ever happen again by stopping technological advance (the war had pushed technology back thousands of years), that was the Axiom Church (stealing this name from SAO here, need a better name). As a religion, it had a much bigger hold on people, especially these people who had just barely survived from a massive cataclysm.

Unfortunately, (at least on the world plate that we will start on) the organisation itself became corrupt over time as people with rotten intents are more proactive and work in the shadows whereas people with good hearts tend to think the best and not notice these things. The church became incredibly oppressive. While originally they had only been on the sidelines, they began to take over governments as well. Though, considering how segmented the world plates are, even the church has minimal communication between continents.

Not just civilians, but also trade guilds and such are against it and this leads to a civil war. We now come to the start of the RP.

The Church will be overthrown... with a certain help from a certain somebody. With the Church no longer in control, the remains of the dead scientist come into action. He's not exactly complete and as he tries to hack into the Dyson system, things go awry. The plate itself is collapsing.

 

A massive evacuation plan is in place. Unfortunately, there is a powerful firewall that automatically came into place.Seeing how this is technology combined with magic, it has, in fact, a physical manifestation that can be defeated.

 

 

After this, we move on to the dystopia arc where, we found ourselves alive, but we now have millions in another plate that is not so welcoming of outsiders. The refugees, us included, are then taken as slaves.

 

 

Now this idea would have to be seriously refined as I can see some possible plot holes in it that I'm too lazy to correct as I'm just brainstorming here.

 

Anyone care to tweak this or suggest another plot entirely?

 

 

Other things we have yet to solidify.

 

So no guns, we have medieval weapons. Perhaps magically enhanced.

 

Power level is another question.

 

Things such as kingdoms and societies, though, should be came up with while we make characters for maximum integration.

[Astolfo]

Power level should maybe have castes and all.

In levels/classes?

 

But otherwise, I love this idea.

[вєgσттєη ιηѕαηιту]

An idea for future ark or different plot. (needs work)

 

There was an evil human dictator during the year 3025 (extreemly sci-fi and they did not believe in magic) who took control of the world and trapped everyone within a Gigantic Metalic ball that now orbits earth as a second moon. Without humanity on earth, the existing animals evolved, humans previous creations became nothing but ruins and a new humanoid race eventually evolved from Birds.

 

The people within the ball were still human, but with limited resources were never able to escape their prison. They maintained their morals and kept their knowledge but were mutated from several years of incest and canabalism to survive.. The humanoid race (yet to be named) who lived on earth worshiped earth and learned magic, heavily and lived a very mideval fantasy life. The year is now 6017 (or what ever you guys want to come up with.) And the humanoid Birds (who have worshiped the ancient human relics) realized that the metalic ball orbiting earth was not a moon.

 

Using magic they brought the ball down (unaware of the effects it would have on earths ecosystem balance) caused the tides to errupt and the world spread into panic.

 

Upon releasing the humans from the ball, they discovered what their predecessors had become. Disgusted the bird race began slaughtering them. When they humans escaped they discovered their old relics and were able to bring back their old technology to fight back.

[Piercer of the Heavens]

So i was in the role call and it is 1:30 in the morning so I'm going to write only a few ideas for now about the Dyson Sphere(by the way I speed read all six pages of the PM so I might be repeating stuff that you guys said).

 

I like the Dyson Shell version of the Dyson Sphere. I do like the whole technology being sent back to medieval technology. I think the sphere should be built by a group of scientist and mages that worked together. The energy output of the sun powers the sphere(which is obvious) but magic controls the energy and where it goes. The magic is supplied from the people who live within the sphere, although they don't know that since it is slowly drained while they live their life; due to a curse like spell that was cast on the sphere. It isn't much for the people to notice, since there would be billions of people alive. To make it simple, its like tax, but on magic and without consent. So science built the sphere, but magic is what is keeping alive. 

 

In know that this is of little relevance to the whole thing, but I felt like I needed to post something for now. I like what Aix wrote and I will add to what he wrote, but later when I'm more awake.

[Maeriberii Haan]

So far I like Aix's idea of rebelling from the church, but I really hope the church will be shown to be actually evil, not because of what people or the narrative backstory say, but because of what they actually shown to do in-story.

Also, it seems that all the player characters are going to be in a same faction. That seems to be nice, but different factions and interests will create more delicious conflict that makes things interesting. And a setting that huge could really use some more factions. How can the church be able to control everything while they already have a hard time contacting the other plates?

Some plates may already have ousted the church from power, or even have never experience the church's reign.

Castes seems to be right, since it can be used to control the populace. Also, give a reason why the firewall is there, since that seems to be a bit random. How high the magic level in the setting should be explained.

Also, we need to actually explain where the hell were the creator's advanced technology went. Last thing: maybe it's only for detail purpose, but an elaboration about the church's religion would be interesting.

I'll post my thoughts about Soulfire's idea later when I've arrived at home.

[Aix]

Guys, let's start making apps until more ideas come in. Making apps should get us brainstorming again.
 

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[Astolfo]

What about the plates being divided, have the "Border Crossing" be like the security checkpoints in between each, "Mountain Citadel" as the church - or maybe Return of the Knight ! for a more grim dungeon like feeling, and there is perhaps like miles-wide gap in between each, with the only transportation in between some airship or whatever? The Church has access to all means of communication, and controls everything, so can spread as much information it needs. Each unique looking place like a city or village or such is a different place, for example, "OSMADTH Bancur City" is perhaps the largest plate, a city/village mix, etc. "Arisen" is perhaps some weird guarded phenomena closely held by the Church, perhaps the source of magic in the world, but untouchable/cannot be stolen, but perhaps acts as power fuel for the technomagic guy later? "Another World" can be just one of those strange phenomena, but perhaps some secret meaning to it, or some connection to Earth or something. "Tyrengarde" seems something where a magic-dominated culture would exist. "Vanished" can be those old fashioned town like worlds, etc? "Phenomenon Submission" might be a place where the water has strange properties, enchanted or such? "Substrata - White Drifters" might be the poles or such?

And my take is that even if there is machinery and technology, almost everything is connected to magic in one way or another? And perhaps the Church uses magic, calls it a gift of God or such?

[Aix]

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[Maeriberii Haan]

Damn, I'm bad at making characters. I'll need some assistance.

[encapturer]

Guize, we're not done here. Puke out some more ideas.

Okay, basically my plot idea combining some ideas discussed was something like:

The Dyson Sphere was made by a super scientist and magical researcher who then transferred himself into technomagical data so he would be immortal. His pride got the better of him as time went on and he thought that he should control the sphere as he was the one who created it. His coworkers stopped him, but the conflict was so massive, it destroyed entire civilizations and stuff. They managed to delete most of him, but kept a bit of him as he was the only one who knew the finer workings of the Dyson Sphere. As an additional precaution, they divided the Dyson Sphere into plates so that he could easily be quarantined.

Hmm, I may have missed it, but why was humanity on the dyson sphere in the first place? And why are the innermost workings black box'd to everyone except our magiscience villain? I'd assume any ruling body moving a society to something like a Dyson sphere would only use stuff based on technology and magical principles that are widely known an verified. Since this seems to be far enough in the past, we could get by on a general reasoning.

Anyway, now the remaining scientists created an organisation to prevent any sort of messing around and catastrophe to ever happen again by stopping technological advance (the war had pushed technology back thousands of years), that was the Axiom Church (stealing this name from SAO here, need a better name). As a religion, it had a much bigger hold on people, especially these people who had just barely survived from a massive cataclysm.

I'd say that it'd take the religion a few generations to really take hold, enough so that the generation that grew up with the technology would have died off. Else there would be further conflict, as that generation's culture would not see tech in general as a bad thing. Imagine if World War 3 happened, then after it was over, governments all over started to confiscate people's computers, phones and stuff, claiming that it was the cause of WW3. It sounds ludicrous, especially since we know it was due to people, not the tech itself. But given a few generations, the tech will be forgotten, especially if the church has been good in stamping out knowledge.

Unfortunately, (at least on the world plate that we will start on) the organisation itself became corrupt over time as people with rotten intents are more proactive and work in the shadows whereas people with good hearts tend to think the best and not notice these things. The church became incredibly oppressive. While originally they had only been on the sidelines, they began to take over governments as well. Though, considering how segmented the world plates are, even the church has minimal communication between continents.

As seen in my previous quote, in order for this plan to be effective, the church must either had some authority from the beginning, or have been dealing with shady business from the beginning. I think the latter works, especially when given a few more decades, the church in general may have forgotten the original goal of forbidding tech, and could have been getting ruthless and open, restricting knowledge just to feel more powerful. Obviously, there could be good people with knowledge, but to the church, they're *the enemy*

Not just civilians, but also trade guilds and such are against it and this leads to a civil war. We now come to the start of the RP.

The Church will be overthrown... with a certain help from a certain somebody. With the Church no longer in control, the remains of the dead scientist come into action. He's not exactly complete and as he tries to hack into the Dyson system, things go awry. The plate itself is collapsing.

Of course, the church could have a couple of guys who actually have an idea why the ban was originally in place, and shudder when their equivalent to a doomsday prophecy comes to pass when the magiscientist makes his move. Makes everyone look foolish.

 
A massive evacuation plan is in place. Unfortunately, there is a powerful firewall that automatically came into place.Seeing how this is technology combined with magic, it has, in fact, a physical manifestation that can be defeated.

Nice to give a physical thing to beat on, but all I can think of is 'glaring security hole' X.x.

After this, we move on to the dystopia arc where, we found ourselves alive, but we now have millions in another plate that is not so welcoming of outsiders. The refugees, us included, are then taken as slaves.

Which is pretty cool... if an RP I participate in can get that far.

[mikel.]

Mikel. / <---username right now
Preferred Roleplay Genres/Types: Realist fiction/ sic-fic not fairy/ whole new not earth like world staff or anything similar  
Preferred Character Type: Not sure, but i base off anime characters that are there, and mess with that. 
Skills: Great at knowing the point, has quick ideas like a waterfall--just wouldn't know how to structure them in sequencing but as well can offer an overview.    

[Shadow Zero]

Okay, I am apparently quite late, and I only just finished the first page, and I ahve things to do, so I hope nobody minds if I just drop my two cents in and then check back later.

 

1: A complete Dyson Sphere would block out the rest of the planets, so what if instead of that, we had Dyson Sphere fragments that were large enough to hold a country, but small enough that they wouldn't block the sunlight to the planets surrounding the sun? Then there could be teleportals linking the different Dyson sphere Fragments and/or high speed transport that goes through them, and if there are Dyson Sphere fragments that are against other Dyson Sphere fragments, and you can't travel directly from one to the other, you could still manage it by going through Dyson Sphere fragments that are neutral in the conflict, because nobody would have a beef with them.

As a possible alternative to this (even though I feel a proper Dyson Sphere would be needlessly huge), we could say that there is a complete Dysonsphere that completely blocks out the sun, but it's built in a way that redirects the heat and light of the sun to the outer shell so that it radiates just as hot and brightly as it would on the surface of the sun. There could also be units in place to harness the electromagnetic power of the sun spots and harvest power from the very weather of the sun as well. This would allow an abundant supply of power, far more than needed on the Dyson Sphere itself.

 

2: There could be three habitable planets of humanoid species that would, distance-wise, share the same orbit that is traveled around the sun. and thus have people living on them. We could probably bring in Terra-forming some of the planetary moons as a possibility, if you guys wanted.

 

3: The three worlds would evolve differently. For one, science, and ultimately nanotechnology, would rule supreme, eventually giving birth to the technomages, wise and learned beings who, through science, have reached a technological level that would allow them to bind microscopic machinery tot he very fabric of their world, allowing them to nurture it, care for it, influence its growth in the right direction, and also do cool things like physically manifesting data in the air in front of them.

The second world would be solely dominated by magic, allowing Casters and Magicians of all levels, powers, and names to thrive. They would reach the point where the way of the Flameless Light is commonplace, that being the name used to refer to magic without magic, accomplishing great wonders only thought possible by a world where science is the dominating force, such as air ships, space travel, and teleportation over vast distances.

The third world would be one where Magic and Science live side-by-side. It would have the most difficult history, with one group siding with one of the two forces. The two sides would ultimately agree to a treaty and begin weaving magic and science together as a single force, allowing Alchemy to become commonplace, and give rise to some of the greatest warriors known in the system, as well as some of the greatest healers.

 

4: The Dyson Sphere fragments could be inhabited by members of each world, with some of them having those from more than one world, allowing for some of them to be like Republic City, from Avatar: Legend of Korra.

Alternatively, as a whole Dyson Sphere that harvests power from the sun and mimics the heat and light of the sun on its outer shell, it could be a place divided into many habitable areas placed in parts of the inner shell of the Dyson Sphere, the side that faces the sun.

 

5: The Dyson Sphere fragments could also be responsible for giving some of the harvested power from the sun to the different worlds (and Terra-formed moons, if we do that). This could also serve as a plot-point that would allow for conflict to breed and grow. Control over energy and energy sources is one of the larger sources of wars, after all.

This could also be done with a whole Dyson Sphere, and probably even better, too.

 

6: One of the plot points could be that the Dyson Sphere is sealed off, with nobody allowing to leave, and nobody allowing to enter. There could be some excuses made and given as to why this is, and some controlled incidents that would give those excuses credibility. This could lead to the uprising of the residents on the Dyson Sphere, with some of them escaping. Prior to escape, one or more of the escapees hears of plans to completely subjugate and control the three worlds (and any of the Terra-formed moons int he system). The escapees would then (eventually) arrive at the nearest world and go to find someone with the power to do things. Once that was done, they would tell of the plans to invade, then at some point further on down the rp, the invasion would actually occur, all three planets being attacked at once, and while this might initially seem an unwise move on the part of the enemy, consider the vastly larger number of people that would live within the Dyson Sphere, and how it would likely number in the hundreds of billions, if not trillions, and then consider what that would mean for how big the combined army is.

 

So, any thoughts, comments, questions, concerns, or plain stupid statements?

[Shadow Zero]

Okay, what happened to all the posting and rp talk? Was the discussion for rp buildlng moved to another thread or something? =_=

[Maeriberii Haan]

Nope, everyone is kinda stuck for idea or something now. Or X/Y. take your pick.

[InfernaLiza]

I must have missed a lot of ideas (and nonsense) so instead of reading it all I will just speak my mind and shove my ideas out there. 

 

So, about the church, if it is to be an evil organization, it could be the people that plan to control the sphere, or, they just did something evil (obviously), and, if we stick with the church, we need a background on how everyone met each other (to rebel) and their relationships with all the other characters, prior or otherwise.

 

On the topic of social classes and the regions they pertain to, given the current ideas and circumstances, I would imagine that the main characters (and of course the townsfolk) would reside in the lower to middle class range of the world, and thus the towns would be of the grade as such.

Of course, the richer side of life could (somehow) work but, again, the circumstances point towards the lesser side of the rich/poor scale.

 

Those are meh thoughts, now here is meh questions:

 

1: Will evil characters be an option?

 

2: Will there be any dragons?

 

3: What is the main style of weaponry and armaments?

 

4: How often will we meet for this RP?

 

5: .... I'll think of something...

 

So, give me your thoughts and answers on my thoughts/questions and once a few are answered I will send in my character form. 

[Astolfo]

I think evil characters should be controlled by the hosts, if anything.

Dragons should be limited to the "magic" sections of the sphere in my opinion.

Main style of weaponry seems to be anything non-modern, fueled by steam-power or magic, depending on where it came from.

Not sure as of yet about meeting.

[InfernaLiza]

If I can't easily get a dragon, can I be a half dragon? Like my profile pic (and most of my characters).

[WhyDidIJoinThis-.-]

I would frickin' love to have a baby dragon as a pet. So how about baby dragons? Or steam powered/magic-mechanical dragons?

[Aix]

If you guys can't think of a legitimate reason that there would be free dragons going around.

[Astolfo]

Magic/Fantasy-oriented sides of sphere might have mythical creatures.

Like dragon-riding soldiers.

 

But hybrids? Depends on population type.

A half-dragon/human would be unlikely anyway.

 

And steam-powered/mechanical dragons seem unlikely, compared to like fighter planes and similar.

[Aix]

Well, one thing is that we could go hunting for dragons to help in the rebellion.

[InfernaLiza]

Well, through the arcane, or even godly (or even the opposite) interaction, anything can happen.

[WhyDidIJoinThis-.-]

Unless we had some of the main story antagonists wear steam powered dragon-looking suits. Just for intimidation factor, maybe they're high ranking in their society/military if any exists? If not I really do not mind if dragons are involved in the story.(lies) I suppose the suits would be more wyvern/like, as dragons typically have 3 sets of limbs, whereas wyverns have 2. (including wings ofc).

[Maeriberii Haan]

An explanation on why dragons are there and why they and humanity haven't annihilated each other is kinda needed though.