Legend Zero Posted June 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/06/ps4-owners-will-need-playstation-plus-subscription-for-online-multiplayer/ Online multiplayer gaming on the PS4 will require a $50 per year subscription to PlayStation Plus, matching a similar requirement for Xbox Live Gold to get online multiplayer on Microsoft's systems.Elsewhere on Twitter, Sony provided some good news to potential PlayStation 4 owners who might want to buy games from across the ocean. In response to a direct question, Sony third-party relations manager Brad Douglas tweeted that "SCEI PR tells me 'no region locking' [for the PS4]."Meanwhile, an official fact sheet distributed alongside today's press conference confirms that extra Dualshock 4 controllers for the PlayStation 4 will run $59, €59, or £54, depending on region. The new, depth-sensing PlayStation Eye camera will run a similar $59, €49 or £44. Sony also noted that the PlayStation 4 will sport a standard 500 GB hard drive—the same size as that inside the Xbox One—in addition to confirming many previously revealed stats for the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 Well, thankfully I can't imagine myself doing much online multiplayer on it anyways. That's what my PC is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 At this point, the only thing holding me back is that this doesn't have backwards compatibility. Oh well, I should be able to keep it close to my PS3 anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Metallium Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 At this point, the only thing holding me back is that this doesn't have backwards compatibility. Oh well, I should be able to keep it close to my PS3 anyway. ok ok the ps3 can accpet ps1 and ps2 games and the original wii can accepte gamecube games so do not sell then X3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 The only GameCube game I have is The Wind Waker. I only use my Wii to play the game anymore, and I probably won't even do that after the HD version comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 I'll definitely be getting the HD version, even if I've already played the original a ton. It was my favorite LoZ game before Skyward Sword came out, and I still love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 Did you guys forget that it has that streaming service? I don't know the details, but yeah, thats still a thing iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted June 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 Sony exec Jack Tretton just told Spike that hotly-anticipated PlayStation game The Last Guardian is on hiatus.http://kotaku.com/third-party-publishers-will-have-final-say-on-used-game-512643240People are freaking out about the above link, but doesn't it just mean things like the online pass? ._. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 Sony exec Jack Tretton just told Spike that hotly-anticipated PlayStation game The Last Guardian is on hiatus.http://kotaku.com/third-party-publishers-will-have-final-say-on-used-game-512643240 People are freaking out about the above link, but doesn't it just mean things like the online pass? ._. I think that the fact that Sony gives the creators the right to do what they want is the best option, and really that's all they have to do. They shouldn't restrict them just because they wish to publish on their console. As Jack Tretton said himself "We’re going to give them a platform to publish on." and that is all it should. I honestly don't think I could agree more with what he has to say on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted June 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/06/24/sonys-shuhei-yoshida-confirms-that-ps-vita-remote-play-of-ps4-games-will-work-through-the-internet/Sony’s Shuhei Yoshida Confirms that PS Vita Remote Play of PS4 Games Will Work Through the Internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:Blu:. Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 This is pretty great news actually. I'll be to access my PS4 games when I have downtime at work :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Oh, new info about the PS4?Wait, it's not about PS3 backwards compatibility? Carry on, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Oh, new info about the PS4?Wait, it's not about PS3 backwards compatibility? Carry on, then.They said it was going to be backwards compatible some time in 2014 iirc. This is old though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 I'm not going to settle for some cloud-based emulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Again, BC would drive cost up by enough to put the PS4 in a much worse position. Also, cloud based emulation is better than none at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Yeah, it's not like you have to pay for online multiplayer or anything. Oh wait.If they let me do something with the PS3 games I've played, fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:Blu:. Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 You're comparing apples to oranges there. Paying for Plus is less than $5 a month but if you add in native BC that will add significant cost to the PS4. Are you planning on selling your PS3 by any chance? If you're not, then why can't you unplug a PS4 and plug in a PS3? And at least Sony is doing something to try and meet the needs of those wanting BC unlike Microsoft. And don't even put the Wii U into this argument because then I'll have to direct you to its inferior hardware (don't take this as me saying the Wii U sucks because that's not what I'm saying at all). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 I've resigned to the idea to the idea that Wii U is weaker because of the BC.Paying for PS+ adds up over time, though. I would keep my PS3 in order to at least play PS2 game, but I would have appreciated if the PS4 could play PS3 games. But yeah, I'll admit that Sony is still being more favorable than Microsoft, who is saying that if you disagree with their stupid ideas, then go buy a 360. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:Blu:. Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 I'm sure most people here would appreciate native BC support but sadly Sony is still a corporation and their plan is still to make the most profit possible, adding native BC would hinder that goal for them unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 And then there's how they DID have an idea to make UMD games transferrable to the Vita, but you still had to pay for it, since all you got was a discount. Oh, and of course they didn't release that idea outside of Japan. I'm really curious if Sony is going to do something similar here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 See, while most people want BC, they would complain about a $500 price point. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Or if you do, you can't complain about the price of it. The reason the Wii U is BC is because it, like the Wii, has a PowerPC-based architecture, so it can easily have native BC. Even if it's not the case, the Wii is basic enough to put it on a chip in the Wii U without costing too much. The PS3 on the other hand, has a very foreign, very alien Cell architecture, while the PS4 has a much more practical x86 architecture. The PS4 could have had easy BC if it also used Cell architecture, but this would have been an incredibly stupid decision. As it stands, to have native backwards compatibility you'd need to literately stick a Cell processor in there, which would not be cheap. There's a reason the PS3 is still so pricey. Emulating the PS3 is also pretty much impossible due to the nature of it, so the only option is doing it elsewhere and beaming it to you via the cloud. tl;dr: Keep your PS3. As much as I like backwards compatibility, Nintendo would be insane not to jump on the practical console design bandwagon next time they make a console, so I don't think we'll see Wii U BC on their next console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:Blu:. Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Roxas, I wasn't aware that something like that existed for the Vita. Maybe the PS4 Gaikai BC feature will be something similar to that.Comrade, yeah, I understood that to be the case and quite honestly, I'm not bothered by BC much at all as I plan on keeping my PS3 and I'm not the kind of person to replay old games much unless they were really memorable. Pretty much now I'm not even using BC on my fat PS3 at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 I'm keeping my PS3, and I have enough room to fit the PS4 in the same area. I do agree that Nintendo shouldn't have Wii U backwards compatibility for their next system, because they really need to make something powerful. The problem is that Nintendo actually cares about the customer, which basically just creates the horrible message that caring about your consumer is going to bite you in the ass. Quite frankly, the next console should focus more on perfecting the Wii U's concept, even if it means backwards compatibility. Nintendo does like to keep backwards compatibility for the last gen, so while I know they won't have Wii discs be playable on it, Wii U discs are debatable.If I'm understanding you correctly, the big problem isn't that the PS4 can't emulate stuff, but that the PS3 is too needlessly complicated to emulate? Fair enough.I guess the PSP/Vita scenario really is more of an example of what could happen than I thought. Sony tried to make something unique with the UMD, but that didn't really catch on, hence why the Vita went with game cards instead. But yes, Blue, they had something fairly early into the Vita's life, but for whatever reason, Sony felt like screwing everyone else over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 So about that camera… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted June 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 So about that camera… Figured as much anyway. At least they give us the choice of having it or not. I don't see myself getting one anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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