Phantom Roxas Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Due to my last couple of statuses, I figured I might as well just make a topic discussing the series as a whole.Anyone who thinks A Link to the Past is their least favorite is either wrong or has not played enough Zelda games to realize that it is better than others in the series. It's my favorite mostly due to the fact that, since I've beaten it five times, presumably there's something that keeps bringing me back to that game in particular. I adore Spirit Tracks, and while I know that The Wind Waker, overrated though it may be, is the best game on the Toon timeline, Spirit Tracks is my favorite from that timeline. What's that, Wind Waker isn't overrated? Sorry, but I've settled on the idea that anyone who insists that The Wind Waker is the absolute best in the series is the Zelda fandom's equivalent of a brony. U mad?My favorite is easily the Child timeline, though. Downfall is a close second, but that's more due to the fact that I like how ALttP's Link has the most games. Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess are great, and yet Four Swords Adventures is the only Zelda game I have never played, not counting the spinoffs, because of course the only other Zelda games would be spinoffs, right? Not awful things that merely bear the name of Zelda solely to cash in on the greatness of the series. That would just be silly.If this series has not defined your childhood, you have my utmost sympathy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 I got into the Zelda series when I got the Zelda Collector's Edition for the Gamecube. I absolutely loved playing Ocarina of Time on that, but loved playing Majora's Mask even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 I got into the Zelda series when I got the Zelda Collector's Edition for the Gamecube. I absolutely loved playing Ocarina of Time on that, but loved playing Majora's Mask even more. This is basically what happened to me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 I grew up with Ocarina of Time, and I always considered it the best LoZ until Skyward Sword. That s*** was just amazing. Also, Groose. Your argument is invalid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Issun Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 The first Zelda game that I played was Wind Waker. It's not my favorite, but it's up there. My favorite is Skyward Sword, and as much hype as Ocarina Of Time has, Majora's Mask was better, in my opinion. I've only played a few others, but I plan to play more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 I grew up with Ocarina of Time, and I always considered it the best LoZ until Skyward Sword. That s*** was just amazing. Also, Groose. Your argument is invalid. Groose was f***ing hilarious and got great-ass character development. I still though SS controlled poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Regarding Wind Waker, I always liked it better than OoT, but I didn't consider it a better game than OoT. The HD remake on the WiiU will be a must buy for me, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted February 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Skyward Sword was still a better experience than my brother randomly getting The Wind Waker, which I played on the Wii, but I needed to get an awful third party controller first. I had played it with a few friends before, but when I finally had it for myself, the experience left much to be desired, and that's why I'm excited for the Wii U remake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Also, Ganondorf's probably my favorite video game villain of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Also, Ganondorf's probably my favorite video game villain of all time. Well, he actually accomplishes some of what he wants to in a few games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Yeah, for the most part I can't actually think of any villains that successfully take over the world (Hyrule, but whatever). I'm sure there are some, I just can't think of any others I know off the top of my head. Also, dat Wind Waker Ganondorf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 My favorite Zelda games are Oracle of Ages, then Seasons then Link's Awakening. Majora's Mask is my favorite 3D game. I also really like the Four Swords, but Oracle of Ages is my favorite by so much. I love the feel of the 2D graphics and the age of it makes it feel a lot like an adventure, too. Less like what Zelda is known for and more that there's something interesting in almost every part of the map. And I love the music plus the sound effects. They all made it sound so humble but mysterious, too. It's also more puzzle-based than other Zelda games, so I could often find many, creative ways to solving these fun problems. I also like how you can almost raise a child based on your answers and how much you really care for him. Anyway, I ended up finishing both games and then getting all the codes and defeating Ganon in both games. But Ages will always be my favorite regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Metal Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Majora's Mask will always be my favorite, Skyward Sword coming in second. It's really hard to compare them all, they are all good in their own way. Each game is familiar but fresh with new gameplay elements. Zelda has and will always continue to be my favorite game series ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted February 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 I lost both of the Oracle games, because apparently people tend to do that. I've beaten Seasons twice, but I could never get to the fourth dungeon in Ages until I got an emulator, but I think I stopped after I beat that dungeon. Now I'm just waiting for them to be in the 3DS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 First ever Zelda game I owned was Phantom Hourglass. As some one who loves Nintendo I feel bad that it took me so long to finally start playing Zelda games. I blame it on every time I tried playing it before that was in a save that was half way or so into the game and I felt so lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 If you're comparing games based on how good they were when they were released, then maybe Link to the Past is the best. If you're comparing games where you're letting nostalgia effect your input, whatever the first one you played was the best. If you're being serious, the best game was Ocarina of Time 3DS, Windwaker, or Phantom Hourglass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Is that an opinion or a general statement...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Is that an opinion or a general statement...? General Statement. Windwaker/Ocarina/Phantom Hourglass/Majora's Mask (forgot that one) are really great 3D games. Link to the Past is a really great 2D game. The basic fact that one is 3D immediately makes it more complex than the 2D game, and the technology behind it is much better. It's automatically a better game. It's the same reason that any Call of Duty game from the past few years are better than Goldeneye 007 on the 64. Games get better over time in so many ways. There are a lot of games from the past that, if they came out today, you'd think they were utter shit compared to the games of today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Other than A Link to the Past, which I barely played on emulator in middle school years after watching my brother beat it, I never cared for the series (or any Nintendo franchise that isn't a Metroid sidescroller.) I was more of a Megaman/ Castlevania person growing up. I do have one of those Seasons/whatever games on GBC though somewhere in my room that I only played twice in 2005. Zelda's just never appealed to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 [quote name="Agro" post="6146496" timestamp="1361221532"]General Statement. Windwaker/Ocarina/Phantom Hourglass/Majora's Mask (forgot that one) are really great 3D games. Link to the Past is a really great 2D game. The basic fact that one is 3D immediately makes it more complex than the 2D game, and the technology behind it is much better. It's automatically a better game. It's the same reason that any Call of Duty game from the past few years are better than Goldeneye 007 on the 64. Games get better over time in so many ways. There are a lot of games from the past that, if they came out today, you'd think they were utter shit compared to the games of today.[/quote] Thank you for telling me how 3D games are more complex. Now tell me how they're superior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Now tell me how they're superior. I thought I established this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 I'm talking to Agro, though. I'll let what he says have relevance until I decide to ask you to justify your opinion to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 They're just better games. If a Link to the Past came out today, we wouldn't think it was better than any of the other 3D games that came out since. They're technologically superior while maintaining the story and gameplay that made LttP good when it came out. You can argue that it was a better game when it came out than newer games are when they came out, but that doesn't change which game is better. And complexity is greatly important to knowing whether a game is better than another. Any argument against that is purely off of nostalgia factor, which shouldn't really be taken into account. Also, Groose is superior because he's Bif. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Do you realize how large a logical fallacy poisoning the well is? I see some bifurcation, too. Anyway, saying complexity doesn't have a perfect association with the quality of a game already makes the entire situation subjective. Did you know that there are very famous simplistic games, too? I also noticed you said the gameplay and story were kept the same, making more of the grading base on technological development. What if I found the story of most 3D games absolutely terrible but still enjoyed Link's Awakening's enough to have it as my favorite regardless of technological development? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Because the technological advances and advances in the complexity of gameplay make it a better game. LttP does have an advantage over most games, like the original Ocarina of Time, where the graphics don't age as poorly, but LttP getting released now wouldn't be as great a game. Don't get me wrong, I still think it's a great game. The problem is that it's technologically aged. Video Games are all about technology; graphics, complexity, that's all part of it. Newer games have advanced so much further in that category than storytelling has. In either case, what I'm trying to explain is basically summed up in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIL24QvyIOg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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