Pokemon X and Pokemon Y

[Cin]

Animals make sense, but some are just a little bit silly. Voltorb/Electrode is def. on that list. For some reason basing some on candles wasn't so crazy. (It made sense somehow) and Tirtouga's name is very similar to a fuel I remember seeing in France.

[ihop]

How about pokemon based on gears or, dare I mention it, swords? I have nothing against any of the weird pokemon.

[Grunt Issun]

Neither do I. I just like to poke fun at people who say that new Pokemon are so uncreative, but nobody hates on Voltorb, the most uncreative Pokemon of all time.

[Toffee.]

For some reason basing some on candles wasn't so crazy-

Voltorb/Electrode was a failed Pokeball experiment.
Just like how Dittos are failed clones of Mew.
Just like how Mewtwo, an "evil" clone of Mew, is the final boss.
Just like how the starters are reptilian/resemble dinosaurs/are genetically altered.
etc

Gen 1's Pokemon were full of crazy-ass science/experimental concepts.

[Jord200]

Voltorb/Electrode was a failed Pokeball experiment.
Just like how Dittos are failed clones of Mew.
Just like how Mewtwo, an "evil" clone of Mew, is the final boss.
Just like how the starters are reptilian/resemble dinosaurs/are genetically altered.
etc

Gen 1's Pokemon were full of crazy-ass science/experimental concepts.

 

 

Don't forget sludge that came to life from being exposed to the moon, living magnets, alien fairies from the moon.

[Toffee.]

Gen 1 was genetics/engineering
Gen 2 was mythology/tradition
Gen 3 was nature/relationships
Gen 4 was history of the universe, and myths/legends that surround that
Gen 5 was relationships between opposites; White was nature and Black was industrial, etc

Gen 6 we don't know yet~

[Jord200]

Well, we have a spiny chipmunk, a fire fox, a bubble frog, a fighting panda, a ribbon/fairy/animal/fox/dog, a firebird, a ghost tree, a gokart goat, an electric lizard, a shiny deer, a demon bird, some bugs, a gargoyle, a lobster, a sword, a lioncub, a seahorse, a pixie, cotton candy, a psychic squid, and a plauge bird.

 

 

Maybe European mythology or something? Fairy tales? I don't know.

[Flame Dragon]

 

 

 

Because we're talking about the strange pokemon.....

[CMRenji]

I dunno if it's been said already, but I'm looking forward to a Fighting/Dragon.

 

Also, I just realized Honedge should totally have a Katana and/or Dagger Forme

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

Okay, just have to mention, about all the "It's an object/food what the heck!?" stuff I always see. Japan is really big on the "Mundane objects having life energy, and being able to come alive". So it makes perfect sense in my opinion.

[Yosuke-kun]

Gen 1 was genetics/engineering
Gen 2 was mythology/tradition
Gen 3 was nature/relationships
Gen 4 was history of the universe, and myths/legends that surround that
Gen 5 was relationships between opposites; White was nature and Black was industrial, etc

Gen 6 we don't know yet~

 

It could be, and this is just me spit balling, going back to the history and creation of life.

 

I mean why else would they name them X and Y? (there's probably another reason, but still .3.)

 

 

Maybe European mythology or something? Fairy tales? I don't know.

 

This is just as possible as my theory though and has more base behind it than mine, but I still think it might have some kind of birth back rounding. 

[DeathSDelano]

I dunno if it's been said already, but I'm looking forward to a Fighting/Dragon.

 

Also, I just realized Honedge should totally have a Katana and/or Dagger Forme

 

I would like to see a psychic/dragon[non-legend] and grass/dragon. and of course a non-legendary Steel/dragon [I can see alot of design space for a nonlegend steel/dragon pokemon]

[CMRenji]

And maybe a non-legendary Fire/Dragon. I really like dat typing in terms of offense, defense, and just in general.

 

I also love how before Gen VI, Magnemite ad Magneton were the only Pokemon to ever be re-typed.

[Toffee.]

It could be, and this is just me spit balling, going back to the history and creation of life.
 
I mean why else would they name them X and Y? (there's probably another reason, but still .3.)

The names of the games never really had that much of a relation to the game itself, outside of what the version mascot was.
Except Black/White, and MAYBE Gold/Silver.
Yellow doesn't count.

[Cin]

We already have Psychic/Dragon (Latios and Latias) and somehow I doubt we'd ever get a non-legendary one

 

Fire/Dragon is so what Charizard should have been, plus given what people normally associate with Dragons being fire, make sense to have this type.

 

I agree name usually is only down to the version legendary, and at the moment that's the way it looks once again.

 

Deoxys (Entry Two) ended up being slightly unnatural when it broke the DNA samples and absorbed Red's blood (LGFR manga), but I'm just being picky.

[Grunt Issun]

They couldn't make Charizard Dragon because they wanted Dragonite to be the only real dragon Pokemon in Gen I, so that it was special.

And they couldn't make Gyarados Dragon because of that, and because he'd have amazing stats AND no weakness.

[Cin]

True, but you get the point. Annoying Dragonite ruining it for everyone lol. I would have thought by now they'd fill that gap. And next Gen they went and created Kingdra anyway.

[ihop]

True, but you get the point. Annoying Dragonite ruining it for everyone lol. I would have thought by now they'd fill that gap. And next Gen they went and created Kingdra anyway.

 

But they created Dragon moves which meant Kingdra actually got a weakness.

[Toffee.]

Guys, if Charizard was half Dragon, nobody would ever pick Bulbasaur OR Squirtle, as Charizard would take 1/4 damage from Venusar, and neutral damage against Blastoise; It breaks the cycle.
Every set of Starters must follow this concept: X>Y>Z>X. But if it's X>Y/Z, then it defeats the purpose and makes it too single-minded.

[Tourmaline]

They couldn't make Charizard Dragon because they wanted Dragonite to be the only real dragon Pokemon in Gen I, so that it was special.
And they couldn't make Gyarados Dragon because of that, and because he'd have amazing stats AND no weakness.

That's not why Gyarados isn't a dragon.
Gyarados isn't a dragon because it is based on a legend that states a carp (Magikarp) that can traverse over a waterfall and a Dragon Gate would be turned into a dragon unless they end up abusing their power and rampage everywhere, where they would turn into a flying serpent. Gyarados' main descriptor in terms of behavior is often rampaging, anyway.

[Grunt Issun]

I was not aware of that. Pretty cool.

Even still, a Water/Dragon with Gyarados's stats in Gen I would be too OP.

[-Berserker-]

That's not why Gyarados isn't a dragon.
Gyarados isn't a dragon because it is based on a legend that states a carp (Magikarp) that can traverse over a waterfall and a Dragon Gate would be turned into a dragon unless they end up abusing their power and rampage everywhere, where they would turn into a flying serpent. Gyarados' main descriptor in terms of behavior is often rampaging, anyway.

Incoming Magikarp Dragon-type alt-evo. Calling it.

[Toffee.]

That's not why Gyarados isn't a dragon.
Gyarados isn't a dragon because it is based on a legend that states a carp (Magikarp) that can traverse over a waterfall and a Dragon Gate would be turned into a dragon unless they end up abusing their power and rampage everywhere, where they would turn into a flying serpent. Gyarados' main descriptor in terms of behavior is often rampaging, anyway.

Add to it, it's likely a Flying-Type due to the fact Gyrados has those infamous mustache-hairs that allow it to fly, as seen on other Chinese Dragons; So Gyarados is still mostly a fish with a lot of dragon characteristics, but isn't a true dragon. Kinda' like Seadra.
Though, Bulbapedia says it could also be based on those Koinobori kites.

Also, as already stated, Dragonite is probably the only Dragon-Type in Gen 1 just to put emphasis on Dragonite's status.

[Northern Sage]

It could be, and this is just me spit balling, going back to the history and creation of life.

 

I mean why else would they name them X and Y? (there's probably another reason, but still .3.)

 

 

 

This is just as possible as my theory though and has more base behind it than mine, but I still think it might have some kind of birth back rounding. 

Anyhow, Xerneas and Yveltal are based on the creation/destruction myth, so that's possible. (Also, Yveltal's name sounds Aztec or Mayan to me for some reason…)

[Tourmaline]

Don't forget that Charizard is based on a salamander with wings, not a dragon with control over fire. Just a salamander with wings. If merely being reptilian warranted the dragon type, there would be many more dragons.

They made Dragon special to Dragonite's family, but the only Dragon type move that existed did fixed damage and the only family that had it had a double weakness to ice. They only gave it the resistances it had to make it resist your starter and maybe even seem scarier, really.