Spellcaster2000 Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Drills. Just drills. I have a slightly (Farfetch'd) theory that maybe Heracross was supposed to be a Pinsir evolution. They are vaguely similair, right? Watch as the Eevee goes on to Fakemon design... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 I'm afraid I have some bad news. I've been seeing reports that the new Corocoro has no new info on X and Y.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpoleMew Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Well yeah, Corocoro kinda leaked a week ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Well yeah, Corocoro kinda leaked a week ago. Oh...... Whoops. Late Jord is late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 I may get hate for this, but most baby pokemon are a complete waste of pokedex space. They screw pokemon out of a potential 3rd evolution, and egg moves and move tutors pretty much destroy the only purpose they have. The only baby pokemon done right so far is Tyrogue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 I don't care for most baby Pokemon, but don't be dissing Pichu, cuz Volt Tackle. Loadsafun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Baby pokemon are for those that don't needstat boosts, but need an increased movepool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicο Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Not to mention that your opinion just sounds like it's talking about the competitive side of things. There are seriously plenty of other reasons people do like Pokemon. Even the useless ones competitively have fans, because of things like design, gimmick, origin, typing, and so on. I honestly thought it was okay to have different tastes, and I for one am not one for competitive Pokemon in the slightest. I like pretty much all baby Pokemon, even if only slightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 I like pretty much all baby Pokemon, even if only slightly. Except Budew. Fuck Budew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 I have no preference to baby Pokemon really. Since my latest game on XD the lack of electrical types made me use Elekid with Cross Chop, Thunderpunch, Ice Punch and Fire Punch (back when Spl Atk/Atk wasn't so important as I've learnt with LG's Gyarados' failure to do decent damage with Waterfall over Surf) and Happiny was good for EXP in DPPt. I think I've only ever raised a Budew once...or was that my sister, one of us had a Roserade. Not my favourite grassline really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Baby pokemon are cute and adorable, what other reason do you need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 I want evolutions purely for design-based reasons...which is why I was excited on possible Heracross and Starmie evolutions despite how those would apparently screw up the metagame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Cute is good to a point, but I prefer the final forms because I like their designs. I like the more vicious looking final forms which is why Leafeon wasn't my first choice for grass, but because Sceptile's move set is weak and I didn't feel like earning BP or dragging Pearl through to Route 226 (From it's way to gym :cool:, just for Energy Ball, I changed my mind. (I believed my Alakazam took Diamond's Energy Ball, and I haven't replayed Diamond since the first playthrough since it's dumping ground) Some designs I like because of their connections like Garchomp is shark like, Sharpedo is a shark and Houndoom because it's a hellhound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Baby pokemon are for those that don't needstat boosts, but need an increased movepool. Can't you just make any moves you'll give the baby to the evolution as a move tutor move? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Can't you just make any moves you'll give the baby to the evolution as a move tutor move? Not if you want to make those move tutor moves available to a whole lot of other pokemon that you didn't intend to give them to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Not if you want to make those move tutor moves available to a whole lot of other pokemon that you didn't intend to give them to. Solution, don't include the moves in the list of egg moves for a pokemon if you don't want them to have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpoleMew Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Except Budew. Fuck Budew. You and me in the back alley, now. Solution, don't include the moves in the list of egg moves for a pokemon if you don't want them to have it. Fun fact, in Gen 4, Volt Tackle is in Machop's egg move list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Fun fact, in Gen 4, Volt Tackle is in Machop's egg move list. Where did you learn this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Baby pokemon are cute and adorable, what other reason do you need? My problem is that most of them don't bring anything to the game. If you're going to make baby pokemon, at least make them have a purpose. Make a baby pokemon that evolves into either Heracross or Pinsir depending on certain conditions for example. Make a baby pokemon that interacts with its evolution like for Kangaskhan. But don't make baby pokemon that do absolutely nothing except bring a few moves that could have been added from egg moves/move tutors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicο Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 I don't know if you know this, but that first sentence there isn't technically correct, soley because the ones making the games have never thought just about what is useful in battle, and by now they definitely think about how to appeal to more people. That may be your opinion due to your tastes and all that, but it isn't in the least bit true, as that was never the only way of thinking about it. I personally share Shradow's opinion that you quoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 I don't know if you know this, but that first sentence there isn't technically correct, soley because the ones making the games have never thought just about what is useful in battle, and by now they definitely think about how to appeal to more people. That may be your opinion due to your tastes and all that, but it isn't in the least bit true, as that was never the only way of thinking about it. I certainly share Shradow's opinion that you quoted. The problem isn't that they aren't useful. Every game will have a certain number of games pieces that are useable and that aren't. However baby pokemon have an opportunity cost. Pokemon can get 3 stages and a baby takes up one without giving that pokemon any gain. Personally I'm ok with single stage pokemon getting a baby form but if when see that the pokemon you like was though of but wasn't seen as good enough to get a cool evolution, only a little baby its frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicο Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 The problem isn't that they aren't useful. Every game will have a certain number of games pieces that are useable and that aren't. However baby pokemon have an opportunity cost. Pokemon can get 3 stages and a baby takes up one without giving that pokemon any gain. Personally I'm ok with single stage pokemon getting a baby form but if when see that the pokemon you like was though of but wasn't seen as good enough to get a cool evolution, only a little baby its frustrating.A good point, but I've heard it before and for some reason didn't say anything. In some cases that's true, but in other cases I'd rather the baby because I shudder to think of how Raichu's evolution would look like, compared to giving it a pichu. Same as a lot of them really. But I am kind of glad some things start of with a baby, like Togepi, because like the Raichu thing, I can't exactly imagine Togekiss evolving again. But in some cases that isn't a good argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted March 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 **** competitive Pokemon. Bring on the babies and the NU pokes. I love ALL of them. And they don't really take up Pokedex space any more than any other Pokemon does. HOWEVER, I think they should go back and retcon some things, get rid of incense and all that trash and just make the existing babies base forms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpoleMew Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Where did you learn this? Hackers found it, of course. Naturally, you can't actually get access to it and it was fixed later on in the generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Heh, reminds me of the time you could glitch the Machop family to learn Sheer Cold. Combined with No Guard, well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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