Agro Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Emerald had the best plot in my opinion, the idea of Gang warfare between Team Agua and Magma was glorious Can't stand B&W, kinda liked B&W 2, and extremely dislike X&Y. The idea of something doesn't make it a good plot. Oh and it's cool how you extremely dislike a game that HASN'T EVEN BEEN RELEASED YET. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Oh and it's cool how you extremely dislike a game that HASN'T EVEN BEEN RELEASED YET. Everybody does it and I am no exception. The biggest peeve of mine is the perspective of the player, it is so different. I am usually apathetic to change but this makes me uneasy about the whole thing and I don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 The idea of something doesn't make it a good plot. Oh and it's cool how you extremely dislike a game that WE KNOW NEXT TO NOTHING ABOUT. sorry agro had to fix it Also yeah, his reasons are stupid but he's sadly allowed to have his own stupid opinion. I love Gen 3, but it is in no way better then BW2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 I love it how while I individualize my opinions on those games and clearly state how I can't tell other people how to think about the games, you all start calling them "stupid" and start telling me how I should feel about the games. Hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren✧ Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 I love it how while I individualize my opinions on those games and clearly state how I can't tell other people how to think about the games, you all start calling them "stupid" and start telling me how I should feel about the games. Hilarious. Look we aren't telling how you should feel...it is a freaking video game and it is sad that we have to have an argument about this, but nonetheless it is started. Points that have been brought up against your argument have been valid. Agreed that Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald were decent games, but in my opinion BW 2 were better. And they were leaps and bounds ahead of Diamond and Pearl. The fact that you hate a game before it comes out and with nearly no information on it, is sad. The Pokemon that we have got to see(what all 6 of them?) aren't exactly futuristic looking, and seem to stick with tradition as well as, if not better than Gen 3 did. Yveltal is the only one in my opinion that might be a step in a new direction, but there isn't anything wrong with trying something new. The idea of fusing Pokemon, while long awaited, was great and was perfect for BW and BW2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Look we aren't telling how you should feel...it is a freaking video game and it is sad that we have to have an argument about this, but nonetheless it is started. Points that have been brought up against your argument have been valid. Agreed that Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald were decent games, but in my opinion BW 2 were better. And they were leaps and bounds ahead of Diamond and Pearl. The fact that you hate a game before it comes out and with nearly no information on it, is sad. The Pokemon that we have got to see(what all 6 of them?) aren't exactly futuristic looking, and seem to stick with tradition as well as, if not better than Gen 3 did. Yveltal is the only one in my opinion that might be a step in a new direction, but there isn't anything wrong with trying something new. The idea of fusing Pokemon, while long awaited, was great and was perfect for BW and BW2. Meh, it wasn't my style. The only thing that peeves me is that I had been trying to get into Pokemon again after D&P but I just couldn't. Every time a new Pokemon game came out I was only disappointed. Now the perspectives of the characters have changed and other things and it just seems like too much for my cash. You do make valid points however and I acknowledge them. My opinion won't be swayed but I do now understand the appeal that X & Y might have on the customers. I am too stuck in my world of Emerald it seems, to like any other game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Lets be honest, we only played Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald for the Mudkips- *shot* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 I love it how while I individualize my opinions on those games and clearly state how I can't tell other people how to think about the games, you all start calling them "stupid" and start telling me how I should feel about the games. Hilarious. Well I wasn't telling you your idea was stupid. Well, okay, I was, but that was merely pointing out a flaw in your logic. While I agree with not saying people's opinions are stupid, I'm impartial to attacking the reasoning behind those opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted March 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Eh, while I disagree that Emerald had a better plot, I feel as though I must point out that simple =/= bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 TBQH I like the 4th gen a ton more than 5th. The two reasons for this is I spent a ton more time dealing with the 4th gen than the 5th. That ties into reason two since this is when I started playing competitively and the 4th gen did the most to shape that aspect of pokemon. That is also where a lot of my interest in the 6th gen lies, to see how competitive pokemanz will change since I never got into the 5th gens competitive side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakashi Hatake Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Everybody just agree that there hasn't been a bad mainline pokemon game yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloister Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Emerald had the best plot in my opinion, the idea of Gang warfare between Team Agua and Magma was glorious and the scenery and Pokemon were my favorite. I personally was mixed about D&P, Can't stand B&W, kinda liked B&W 2, and extremely dislike X&Y. I will not buy the game HOWEVER, I have no reason to tell other people not too. This was a topic to discuss the game and I did. Just not in the supporting way like everyone else. I SOOO agree. I prefer DPP over BW. I do hope XY tops BW, if not, Pokémon should just stop being made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Tim Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 I really don't want it. After the travesty that was Black and White and Black and White 2 I want nothing more to do with those games until they get their act together. This series needs serious reform. That and the perspective doesn't look right to me. Feels, nontraditional. Just out or curiosity, how do you expect the series to reform into a better game without being traditional, your argument contradicts itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 The only reason I semi-formed an idea on BW2 before I played it was because of the lack of N as a 'villain', but BW2 did add more depth to his storyline (such as him not being Ghetsis' biological son if I remember correctly). I liked N as a rival/villain because of the depth behind and as one of the characters said in BW (If I remember in the castle) nothing is more dangerous than innocense. (Other than my failure at spelling it). I did dislike how BW2 had the one of the latest trade points in a game (Colo and XD having the latesm, but that was the point of the game.), I prefer to prepare a team as soon as I hit the first Pokecentre and it's further restriction on the EXP table from BW making it far more difficult to train which I like to do. So my team spent 40 Levels on BW to get to a level where I could nearly coast to being the right level for E4. I suppose for the player who likes a real challenge it would be more enjoyable than the previous games especially adding difficulty levels, which I suppose next play though I could use to make the game more to level which I enjoy. As for the best overal plot. I did like XD and Collosseum's idea of people manipulating Pokemon to becoming essentially fighting machines without feeling (even though Lugia's purification if you were working on your purification chamber was far too easy, since you're on atleast on 5 before you've hit the monster base). Absolutely love the Under as a Cipher Base (hard to replicate with the 2D/3D rendering on the handheld at the time) Emerald's clashing forces did interest me and alot more bases. I like villain bases even if they were basic As long as XY doesn't go as far or further than BW2 in terms of the EXP table, it should still be an enjoyable game. I'm one of those who likes things not to be too difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 As long as XY doesn't go as far or further than BW2 in terms of the EXP table-BW2 literally gave you free Levels.No, really, that Joint Avenue is busted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 BW2 literally gave you free Levels. No, really, that Joint Avenue is busted. I never used Join Avenue (mainly because I don't see why I should manage something for a rich, lazy schmuck who's traveling the world while I work there), so I wouldn't know. Would you please elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Just out or curiosity, how do you expect the series to reform into a better game without being traditional, your argument contradicts itself. It does a little doesn't it? Can't believe I didn't notice that... I guess by reform, I meant reform it in a way that improves it but doesn't totally change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpoleMew Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 In other words, for Game Freak to keep doing what they're doing. Except for the Wifi in Gen 5, that was stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Given that it's on the 3Ds....WiFi would be murder given the 3Ds has very bad battery life to begin with (about 3 hours) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 In the topic: Black's "my opinion is fact while yours is fallible." A mention of the 3DS' battery life was made, too. It really isn't too fantastic. It's part of why I use the 3DS less than Nintendo may have intended. I'm only planning on using it for major parts of the game. Maybe large battles.... It's always fun to wonder how my team will end up. I'm going to try not looking into the new Pokemon because I've never done that before and have seen enough claims that it's fun to try it myself. I'll probably end up with Stantler or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 In the topic: Black's "my opinion is fact while yours is fallible." So, you mean, offering: A. A critical standpoint that even put down my favorite gen as an argument against 1/3 of the argument B. A solid FACT about what the aim of Gen 3 was that disproved 2/3rds of the argument Is saying my opinion is fact and nothign else? Good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 I mean not being able to argue for Emerald. You said there's no way to do that for its plot being superior. Do you dislike outliers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpoleMew Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Given that it's on the 3Ds....WiFi would be murder given the 3Ds has very bad battery life to begin with (about 3 hours) I was referring more to how you can't scale levels in battles with friends unless you decide to play by Battle Facility rules and even then it scales to 50 instead of 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Everybody just agree that there hasn't been a bad mainline pokemon game yet. This. TBQH Pokemon might just be my favorite video game franchise. As long as XY doesn't go as far or further than BW2 in terms of the EXP table, it should still be an enjoyable game. I'm one of those who likes things not to be too difficult. What do you mean by EXP table? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 I just mean the amount of exp a Pokemon gets used to be a steady level. How else could I spend Lv 20-40 in Diglett's Cave in Leaf Green, but if the same cave existed in BW2 it would take a LOT longer or I would give up with the poor EXP results. Wonder if it's always been semi like that and I just never noticed before, but training seems infinitely easier in BW than BW2. I remember training for the first gym in BW2 and getting so fustrated with the poor results, but previously I could quite happily get Lv 20+ before the first gym without getting fustrated, even the large amounts of EXP given by Audino dwindled into disappointed results. Thank God for Lucky Egg. I would love the gym leader rematch feature from Platinium and HGSS reinstated again, it was so useful to be able to train against a certain type each time. (I never bothered to go through the effort for Blue's number) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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