Kazooie Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 How is its ability to hurt Fighting types any different from it hurting Fairy. Both will be hit for a decent amount by a Surf. However both can easily OHKO it right back. It is worse against Fairies seeing as those can switch in easily on half your moves vs. Fighting only switching in for "free" on Dark moves. Why would you be using Surf over Flash Cannon if you're expecting Fairy? Cannon would do just about as much damage to Fighting Types and hits the one of the two types that gives Hydreigon any threat super-effectively. Conkledurr, one of the best Fighting type in OU now, could probably 1-2 KO a Hydreigon with Mach Punch. The fact that Conkledurr is as good as it is keeps Hydreigon from going too far. In Gen 6, Conkledurr could survive a Flash Cannon, get the Mach Punch, and potentially oneshot the Hydreigon. A Fairy on the other hand would far probably die the moment it switched in to Flash Cannon. If it did get a switch in on Dark Pulse or something similar due to bad prediction, Hydreigon would very likely outspeed it and KO it with Flash Cannon. The difference is that Hydreigon has no real reliable way to hit super effectively against Fighting types without hurting its moveset, I think FLY / Hidden Power Flying / HP Psychic are its only options, while it could very likely two-three shot a decent Fairy type with Flash Cannon, and one shot a more fragile one. We won't know until Gen 6 is out for sure, but Hydreigon can still excel with Fairy types, because Gengar and Ghosts got a passive buff, which could scare off Fighting types, and one of the few types it cared about at all no longer scare it, that type being Steel. So it no longer has to run Fire Blast / Flamethrower JUST for Steel Types when it can just brute force them down. That leaves it open to destroy Fairy Types with Flash Cannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 God, I love awesome fanart. From the same artist who drew that Mega Lucario picture I previously used as a sig, he's also done Mega Blastoise and Mega Blaziken. It's some pretty awesome stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRenji Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 My God, that Mega Blaziken is.... my God.... And I doubt Hydreigon will be seen as much better than from Gen V, but if it is and it's used more, my Volcarona and I will be fine with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Why would you be using Surf over Flash Cannon if you're expecting Fairy? Cannon would do just about as much damage to Fighting Types and hits the one of the two types that gives Hydreigon any threat super-effectively.A Fairy on the other hand would far probably die the moment it switched in to Flash Cannon. If it did get a switch in on Dark Pulse or something similar due to bad prediction, Hydreigon would very likely outspeed it and KO it with Flash Cannon.We won't know until Gen 6 is out for sure, but Hydreigon can still excel with Fairy types, because Gengar and Ghosts got a passive buff, which could scare off Fighting types, and one of the few types it cared about at all no longer scare it, that type being Steel. So it no longer has to run Fire Blast / Flamethrower JUST for Steel Types when it can just brute force them down. That leaves it open to destroy Fairy Types with Flash Cannon. I was thinking in the dark when you don't know if they will have the Fairy. Early game I personally just go for the stronger move. I did, however, forget that we now have the team spoiler thing so it might make getting the Fairy read easier. However my comment was about the Hydra now having an easier time using Dark Pulse, and I stand by that not being the case since you still can't haphazardly use it. Also I REALLY don't think he will one shot a Fairy. If he had specs, maybe, but I can't see the other sets getting their. Not to mention we have a priority fairy move so speed is not all the important. Not to mentio the hydra isn't the fast pokemon. I do agree that we need to wait till we can atually play to make any judgements. Personally, I did use the Hydra and I always found it to be the weakest member of my team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 God, I love awesome fanart. From the same artist who drew that Mega Lucario picture I previously used as a sig, he's also done Mega Blastoise and Mega Blaziken. It's some pretty awesome stuff.You know what, I was going to get Mega Venusaur because I already got a Blastoise in LeafGreen I could transfer over eventually, but damn it, I want Mega Blastoise so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpoleMew Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Not really jumping into any specific part of this whole argument but for what it's worth, Life Orb Politoed using Hydro Pump in the rain does barely over half of Sylveon's HP with a critical hit, as seen here. So you know, take that however you will in debate with Fairy types (because you know you're going to be seeing Sylveon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRenji Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Wait, with a CRIT? What in God's name? Are any EVs known? Because this is literally impossible if the Politoed has 252 in Special Attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Not really jumping into any specific part of this whole argument but for what it's worth, Life Orb Politoed using Hydro Pump in the rain does barely over half of Sylveon's HP with a critical hit, as seen here.So you know, take that however you will in debate with Fairy types (because you know you're going to be seeing Sylveon) I guess we know which stats on Sylveon have the 130 and 110. Lets hope it has 95 in DEF. That would also explain why it did crap damage to the Hydra with 4x damage. Wait, with a CRIT? What in God's name?Are any EVs known? Because this is literally impossible if the Politoed has 252 in Special Attack. Just to confirm, Kyuusho (きゅうしょ) mean "vitals" according to my go to Japanese dictionary. So yea, that was also a crit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 I've actually taken the time to get a detailed look at the Team Flare designs, since previously I had only glanced over them, and dayum, do they look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eury Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 I really like the 4 girl admins designs. Big guy tho I don't like. :l And 30 minutes till the announcement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRenji Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 I still love the grunts' design so much <3 I guess we know which stats on Sylveon have the 130 and 110. Lets hope it has 95 in DEF. That would also explain why it did crap damage to the Hydra with 4x damage. Just to confirm, Kyuusho (きゅうしょ) mean "vitals" according to my go to Japanese dictionary. So yea, that was also a crit. Surviving a Life Orb'd crit Hydro Pump in the rain, it's undeniable. And I actually wrote a prediction of Xerneas and Yeveltal's stats, based on past legendaries and bullsh*t guessing. Xerneas HP: 100 Attack: 115 Defense: 90 Special Attack: 135 Special Defense: 100 Speed: 130 Yveltal HP: 100 Attack: 135 Defense: 100 Special Attack: 115 Special Defense: 90 Speed: 130 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted September 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 I don't think Xerneas will be that fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRenji Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 I don't think Xerneas will be that fast. Yeah, probably not. I just have a feeling that these guys are going to be relatively very fast compared to other legendaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birkeland Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 It's a treasure hunt. An Arceus-damn treasure hunt. Poooookkkkkkeeeeeeeee- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Yea for the us. What a dud for everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Yea for the US. What a dud for everyone else. I know right, but even if it was for outside the US as well, I wouldn't have had any intentions on entering anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eury Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 I got a ringtone. I DO NOT WANT MERE PEASANT GIFTS. GIVE ME 3DS PL0X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakashi Hatake Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 it confuese me so much. Are they just on the official site or all over the web? What kind of ways are they hidden? I'm so confused. Dx I got a ringtone. I DO NOT WANT MERE PEASANT GIFTS. GIVE ME 3DS PL0X. Pleasde tell me how and where, i need an idea of how/where to search. Dx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 With regards to that tag battle in Empol's post-Am I the only one who likes the constantly moving camera?Like, it totally makes the whole battle feel like Pokemon Stadium/Stadium 2/Colosseum/etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birkeland Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Hey guys, I found the thing with reference of the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eury Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 So apparently entering the codes doesn't have a chance of "YOU WIN A 3DS", you will /always/ get a digital gift. You just have a chance with every code of winning one of the 50 weekly gifts. MUST HAVE THE FENNEKIN PLUSH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakashi Hatake Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 So apparently entering the codes doesn't have a chance of "YOU WIN A 3DS", you will /always/ get a digital gift. You just have a chance with every code of winning one of the 50 weekly gifts. MUST HAVE THE FENNEKIN PLUSH But where di you actually find yer code? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birkeland Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Never forget the internet/tumblr is a global communications network or something like that. All the codes (copied from tumblr): X3K5 - Chespin X9K3 - Malamar Y8P4 - Pancham X4Q8 - Dedenne Y2P6 - Noivern X7Q5 - Honedge Y3F2 - Pangoro X7C9 - Helioptile Y4L6 - Skrelp X5H8 - Fennekin Y5B6 - Spritzee (unlocks booster pack code) Y9D8 - Gogoat Y8H7 - Yveltal Y6J5 - Sylveon (unlocks black and white manga) X2R4 - Bunnelby X8G5 - Inkay (unlocks black and white manga) Y3S7 - Skiddo X6P4 - Froakie (unlocks booster pack code) X5W8 - Fletchling (black and white manga) X5T3 - Swirlix (black and white manga) X8T9 - Litleo Y6V8 - Talonflame X4C7 - Clauncher X7M4 - Xerneas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eury Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 hwat. I tried entering the Xernaes one but it says I already did. thefawk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birkeland Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 hwat. I tried entering the Xernaes one but it says I already did. thefawk. Something about 'limits per day' iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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