Susie Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 [quote name='Shradow' timestamp='1358097134' post='6119676'] He's got the 8th spot. [/quote] 8th spot? Wow I didn't think he was that high up I thought that he'd be more lower Maybe I had thought that Because I don't hear about Pikmin too often anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 [center][img]http://i46.tinypic.com/16l2c5.jpg[/img][/center] [center]Tier List, cause people were talking about it.[/center] ANYWAY. I would like Ganondorf and Bowser to be improved. Ganon to get a new moveset honestly, and Bowser to, I dunno, be a little faster and to actually have a roll that isn't s***? Also Wario is amazing and I hope dearly he is in the next one. Having Pokemon Trainer being replaced with someone from Pokemon Conquest is something I would approve greatly of too, even if it won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Lucas should not be that low, seriously. I've met too many people who simply dominate with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 I never really put much faith in tiers outside of theory on paper. For instance, I went to a big tournament at a con once and won second place with Ike, first place being Snake and third place being Diddy Kong. Though both fights were hard as all get out and were very close in both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Add some Golden Sun characters, for god's sake. It wouldn't be unbelievable considering Isaak was an assist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 [quote name='Shradow' timestamp='1358104284' post='6119763'] I never really put much faith in tiers outside of theory on paper. For instance, I went to a big tournament at a con once and won second place with Ike, first place being Snake and third place being Diddy Kong. Though both fights were hard as all get out and were very close in both of them. [/quote] The tier list is on paper. If you play a low tier character and you ARE good with that character, you will most likely beat someone who is using a top tier character but doesn't have the skill to use that character. The tier list assumes equal skill levels and not much luck involved. That's all. It's a pure ranking of characters. also lol, snake and diddy are both really high on the list, so that kinda goes against what you said a little xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 [quote name='Champion Iris' timestamp='1358100813' post='6119726'] [center][img]http://i46.tinypic.com/16l2c5.jpg[/img][/center] [/quote] Pit, Kirby, and Jigglypuff need to be more higher Diddy Kong, Falco, Olimar, and Zero Suit Samus need to be more lower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 [quote name='Aphex Twin' timestamp='1358105379' post='6119787'] Pit, Kirby, and Jigglypuff need to be more higher Diddy Kong, Falco, Olimar, and Zero Suit Samus need to be more lower [/quote] Pit I agree with. Kirby and Jiggly are too low weight and easy to kill along with not having a ton of killing potential. Diddy is best.counter to Meta Knight and his attacks have a ton of priority. Falco has the BEST air game out of any character. Olimar confused me, but his pikman cause tons of havoc when used right. ZSS still confuses me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 [quote name='Champion Iris' timestamp='1358105477' post='6119789'] Pit I agree with. Kirby and Jiggly are too low weight and easy to kill along with not having a ton of killing potential. Diddy is best.counter to Meta Knight and his attacks have a ton of priority. Falco has the BEST air game out of any character. Olimar confused me, but his pikman cause tons of havoc when used right. ZSS still confuses me. [/quote] Jigglypuff and Kirby both can kill others easily Well maybe not Jigglypuff But Kirby can kill easily, plus Kirby can fly for the longest time I find it hard to use Falco, ZSS, Diddy, and Olimar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 [quote name='Aphex Twin' timestamp='1358105814' post='6119798'] Jigglypuff and Kirby both can kill others easily Well maybe not Jigglypuff But Kirby can kill easily, plus Kirby can fly for the longest time I find it hard to use Falco, ZSS, Diddy, and Olimar [/quote] Kirby most often gets killed before he gets a real chance to get in that shot. His best killing attack is his hammer, and it's hard to time for that killing blow. That doesn't change the fact that they have their advantages. ZSS is the one who I have no idea about. I don't know what she has going for her honestly. x-x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 From my experience, stun combos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altαir Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 [quote name=' Tama the Chibi Sage' timestamp='1358104350' post='6119764'] Add some Golden Sun characters, for god's sake. It wouldn't be unbelievable considering Isaak was an assist. [/quote] Please please please put Karis and Piers and Alex in! Then my life would be complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 [quote name='Lujan Solo' timestamp='1358060304' post='6119495'] Wolf must stay. Not only is he my best character, there are very few playable villains in SSB. Joshua, Hector and Ephraim, and Lyn should be playable. At least one of them. I'd say Eliwood and Eirika too, but they'd be too similar to Marth. I also support Samurai Goroh, Travis Touchdown, and Lloyd Irving. And Ganondorf needs a completely new moveset because he's a slow C. [/quote] Let's add the entire cast of FE while we're at it. Joshua would be nice, but honestly, I'd like to see one of the mages (maybe Soren?) for some variation. Also, Kirby is NOT the character that can fly the most ._______. Pit, Meta Knight, Jigglypuff AND Charizard (off the top of my head) can fly more .-.I I'd like to see Zero from Megaman. Most liekly it'll be Megaman if anyone tho. If I had to pick 1 anime character Kid Goku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
❤ Lovely Warrior ❤ Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 I hope there isn't another Link clone in this one. If Toon Link/ Young Link had a different moveset he would at least be tollerable, but he's just a full up short Link clone. He's almost as bad as Dr. Mario. I'm hoping that the PKMN Trainer gets different skins so we can play as the other trainers along with Red. I would also like to see another F-Zero character and a female swordsman. *cough*Princess of Renais.*cough* ZSS is actually one of my mains in Brawl. I actually orefer her over normal Samus... weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 [quote name='Hayate Ayasaki~' timestamp='1358108422' post='6119839'] Also, Kirby is NOT the character that can fly the most [/quote] [s]I don't recall saying that[/s] Oh wait I did I didn't mean to though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Avian Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 If there's gonna be a mage from FE, it'd probably be someone like Lyon, Cellica, or Micaiah, but now that I think about it, they'd probably include Chrom because he's the protagonist of Awakening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
❤ Lovely Warrior ❤ Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 [quote name='Lujan Solo' timestamp='1358117783' post='6119952'] If there's gonna be a mage from FE, it'd probably be someone like Lyon, Cellica, or Micaiah, but now that I think about it, they'd probably include Chrom because he's the protagonist of Awakening. [/quote] Most likely the Ike will be replaced with whoever is the main hero of the most current FE game. Though I think a more classic character should be chosen from the series, also a character that's not a sword weilder since we have enough of those... well 3 (Marth, Link, and the second FE rep). Also a lady from FE would be nice to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Why should Ike be replaced though if he isn't a clone of anybody? He's a unique character and has a respectable fanbase, plus the only reason Roy was taken out was because he was the same as Marth [s]but better.[/s] I don't think [i]anyone[/i] should be taken out of the current roster, just reduxed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
❤ Lovely Warrior ❤ Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 The only characters I'd remove are Toon Link and the third party characters, but yea Ike is pretty uniqe as a fighter and I wouldn't mind him sticking around, but FE might do the same the Pokemon reps do and update their reps with each new game. I'm pretty sure Lucario will be replaced Zoroark just like Mewtwo was replaced by Lucario and I have the same feeling Ike will be replaced with whoever the main character is of the most current FE game is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 [quote name='❤ Lovely Warrior ❤' timestamp='1358183783' post='6120633']and the third party characters [/quote] Excuse me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
❤ Lovely Warrior ❤ Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 [quote name='Shradow' timestamp='1358183976' post='6120637'] Excuse me? [/quote] Snake and Sonic. I just don't think they belong in Nintendo's big party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 [quote name='❤ Lovely Warrior ❤' timestamp='1358184021' post='6120638'] I just don't think they belong in Nintendo's big party. [/quote] My previous statement was pointed at this idea, not asking who they were. If anything, SSB4 will have more third-party, what with Nintendo's been trying to do regarding third party companies and the fact Namco Bandai people are helping with the new game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
❤ Lovely Warrior ❤ Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Since Smash 64 the series has been about pitting Nintendo characters together for epic battles. While I know Snake and Sonic are popular I don't think they belong simply becuase they aren't Nintendo characters. Sonic is SEGA and Snake is Konami. It's like how Reck it Ralph and Dainica were included in Sonic and All-Stars Transformed. Yes they fit with the theme, but their not truley SEGA characters and they just feel out of place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Obviously not, since people were asking for third party. The Heavy, Pyro, and Spy are also in Transformed, but I think they fit fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Smash Bros is the only place people can properly play out Mario vs Sonic. No way [i]in hell[/i] would they take him out. Snake too, a lot of people love to use him. I agree, we'll probably see another 2 3rd partiers, probably Megaman if nothing else. And uh Toon Link's my best character, so I'd really rather [i]not [/i]see him leave. And uh Lucario's my 2nd best character, so I'd really rather [i]not[/i] see him leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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