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Marisa Kirisame-ze

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I think everyone has their own absurdly interesting opinion about her, so what do you think?

I honestly think she has a beautiful voice, despite her not being able to sing a higher range of notes. Either way, if there's one thing I really respect her for, it's for her talent in writing. You can obviously tell she's a thorough writer, like in Ride when she says her monologue. I like how chaotic she is, as well as dark and strange, but with this classic vibe. I think her songs are beautiful and I really do enjoy listening to them. Plus, she's quite a beauty herself.

Also, I love love love how a lot of her songs intertwine with each other. The themes of Marilyn Monroe, America, love and longing, it's all really nicely done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flSSdLr9qHk

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Kinda old, but can I bump this? I don't even expect the people over here to like her, but she's worth trying. Fucking love her music.

 

From the new album, this track is really good:

 

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLEA3bc-3p0[/media]

 

Her best will always be this one for me:

 

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AypvuzhVlrc[/media]

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Kinda old, but can I bump this? I don't even expect the people over here to like her, but she's worth trying. Fucking love her music.

From the new album, this track is really good:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLEA3bc-3p0[/media]



Meh. Blue Velvet was a cover on Lana's album, and pretty much all previous covers were better.

I have a mixed opinion of Lana. On one hand, she's a great songwriter. One only has to look at songs like Video Games and Blue Jeans in order to see so. She's been blessed with great producers who have given her some of the most best orchestral arrangements and quiet storm-esque beats in recent pop music. She is generally proof that pop doesn't have to revolve around the club in order for an artist to be good.

On the other hand, she is simply just not a perfect artist at the moment. Neither Born to Die, or its extended addition, were amazing albums. They were average albums. They were plagued by generally boring tracks like Million Dollar Man and Summertime Sadness. Some just had incredibly overwhelming string instruments that detracted from the songs. And mostly, I just don't like her concept. In my opinion, you had Marina and the Diamonds do the concept incredibly better: she interweaved satire and a sensibility into it. Lana is too much about the grandiose and is...awkward. An incredibly, incredibly awkward concept. She's out of the times, and is otherwise reliant on the fact that her managers predicted the uprise of the hipster movement essentially. It's a bunch of lyrical nonsense about spending money, being lavish, and makes embracing female sexuality into plain being slutty at its very core. She doesn't pull off the concept correctly. For albums like this, I don't feel the 'Hollywood tragedy', Marilyn Monroe-style songwriting that I really should.

It's a shame, because she has potential. Perhaps she'll achieve better on her proper second album.
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Blue Velvet was a cover on Lana's album, and pretty much all previous covers were better.

I have a mixed opinion of Lana. On one hand, she's a great songwriter. One only has to look at songs like Video Games and Blue Jeans in order to see so. She's been blessed with great producers who have given her some of the most best orchestral arrangements and quiet storm-esque beats in recent pop music. She is generally proof that pop doesn't have to revolve around the club in order for an artist to be good.

On the other hand, she is simply just not a perfect artist at the moment. Neither Born to Die, or its extended addition, were amazing albums. They were average albums. They were plagued by generally boring tracks like Million Dollar Man and Summertime Sadness. Some just had incredibly overwhelming string instruments that detracted from the songs. And mostly, I just don't like her concept. In my opinion, you had Marina and the Diamonds do the concept incredibly better: she interweaved satire and a sensibility into it. Lana is too much about the grandiose and is...awkward. An incredibly, incredibly awkward concept. She's out of the times, and is otherwise reliant on the fact that her managers predicted the uprise of the hipster movement essentially. It's a bunch of lyrical nonsense about spending money, being lavish, and makes embracing female sexuality into plain being slutty at its very core. She doesn't pull off the concept correctly. For albums like this, I don't feel the 'Hollywood tragedy', Marilyn Monroe-style songwriting that I really should.

It's a shame, because she has potential. Perhaps she'll achieve better on her proper second album.

In the end, it's all a matter of opinion. I didn't like Paradise so much, but Born to Die was amazing and practically every track is like a masterpiece to me.

I can't at you calling Million Dollar Man boring. O_O

 

Idk what you meant by 'achieving', though. Chart success not so much, but otherwise her albums are doing well, and she has a shitload of fans, so yeah.

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In the end, it's all a matter of opinion. I didn't like Paradise so much, but Born to Die was amazing and practically every track is like a masterpiece to me.
I can't at you calling Million Dollar Man boring. O_O
 
Idk what you meant by 'achieving', though. Chart success not so much, but otherwise her albums are doing well, and she has a shitload of fans, so yeah.


I usually take music on the simple premise of how well was it composed and how well was it orchestrated/arranged/produced? Music is definitely opinion-based, because, at the end of the day, it's how much you enjoy something that judges how good it is for you on an individual level. I feel that if an artist is able to recognise their mistakes on that simple musical level, their fans can enjoy it more.

I think that Million Dollar Man was a miss. You can only think what the song sounds like without the strings, because all they do is clutter the production and detract from what is already a very fragile melody line. It's a bunch of mismatched jigsaw pieces essentially: each are individually fine, but don't fit together in the same piece.

When I say 'achieve', I mean musically achieve. She's proved herself to be a popular and successful artist, but can she prove herself to be a good artist in itself? When some of her songs are great, you have to wonder why a lot aren't. She has to be able to achieve greatness for all her songs, basically.
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Although Lana has hit a time where, yes, some of her songs are beautifully arranged, and then the others completely dull and mundane, I think it's important to note certain things she stands for as a person and an artist. I definitely agree with what you have to say Rai, but I figured I'd add a little more to it too, from my obscure perspective.

 

The appealing thing about her and her music, especially for high schoolers like myself, is that she doesn't make sense. And for a writer, that misunderstanding is important. I can make a generalization that all writers are complex, and writing helps them understand themselves, but even a writer could never achieve that understanding 100%. There's too much in mind, and as much as you write, you're still complex and not figured out. So Lana, being a writer, has fully acknowledged that she doesn't make sense. And that, in the most absurd, charming way, is something she actually values and states, while calling herself a psycho and contradicting herself often, while also nicknaming herself the "gangster Nancy Sinatra". She even knows that her songs can be repetitive and intertwined (or horribly the same) because she's stated that she writes about the "same god damn person" so that she'll "love him forever". 

 

And it just gets you thinking.

 

She's fucking crazy.

 

But man, that's something else.

 

That's beautifully different than anything I've seen or heard before. She's someone who's publicly absurd and embraces every bit of it. That's her art. She's moonstruck as hell. That's what I see in her. And I love it, I love it, I love it.

 

"I personally liked my performance. I like what I do. I like how I sing. I'm just a little bit freaky."

 

And that's what makes her songs so addicting to me. If I listened to her music without knowing much about who she is, her songs probably wouldn't have stuck as much. But after getting into her so well, and relating to her above most, and finding a connection within her extreme, honest lifestyle, I've come to recognize greatness in her music.

 

Because everything she writes is based off of experience. And she writes what she knows, and can put on a show.

 

“No money, no place to live – I’ve been in more dangerous situations than other people.”

 

My God, she's a riot. A serene riot. And guess what? That makes no sense. Because she makes no sense.

 

And for once in my life, I felt comfortable with paradoxical souls like herself and myself. And I thank her for that.

 

((I don't even know where I was going with this, but hopefully it gives you a new perspective of her?))

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