Merci Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 @Overlord: Individuals have different psychologies, and it's true that guys are just as likely to get depressed as girls, I admit that. However, the main difference is that the average guys don't have girlfriends often, and the fact that they're rarely - if ever - raped, compared to women who are constantly under threat from it. Also, if they ever get pregnant, their worlds change...while guys don't get pregnant. It isn't just physical differences. It's written in the DNA of men and women, the past still being repaired, and humanity is still trying to overcome that. I'm not saying that men and women shouldn't be treated equally, I'm just saying that they're two different halves of humanity and have a deeper difference than just physical appearances. Don't blind yourself to the outside world. Honestly, I do wish I could agree with your words, but the statistics speak for themselves. We're certainly heading towards a brighter and more equal future (I anticipate a female American president winning the election within the next decade plus the defeat of human trafficking), but that time isn't right now. A lot of countries in the world are still catching up. But you are right in that depression can vary, and that many individuals in today's world defy the tropes. I'm just pointing out the problems in gender differences that men don't (usually) have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted February 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 "Average guys don't have girlfriends often" Y'know, there are a LOT of guys with girlfriends, and a LOT of girls WITHOUT boyfriends...... Also 1. I'd rather be a woman and be raped, than be a man and be raped, tbh. Both are absolutely horrible but at least I wouldn't feel gay. .-. 2. Abortion exists. It's not pretty, but it exists. There ARE a LOT of mental differences, but if anything, women are STRONGER than men, mentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit of DMG Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Women are better able to process emotions than men. I will never [i]never[/i] [b][i]NEVER[/i][/b] recommend abortion [b][i]EVER[/i][/b] regardless of circumstances. I'm sorry, but I find it disgusting, regardless of reason, that something so lowly as man feels that they get to choose the fate of any living thing, born or unborn. How vainglorious can one be, to believe he has the right to decide who gets to be born and who doesn't? Only the Lord and Lady have that kind of power. Or rather, the right to that kind of power. On a side note, if the rapist was female, DL, for many of the men I know, and even some of the women, it would be rape for approximately 4.5 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 So a guys life won't change hugely because the woman he loves has gotten pregnant? The fact he is going to be a father won't change his life hugely? A guy will feel just as shocked as a woman would, especially if it's an accident, because then he has to live with the guilt of it. He has to watch everything fall apart because of one mistake, and watch as someone he loved breaks there own moral and religious beliefs to rectify that mistake. I can't accept that men and women are predefined to be different, because that means I have to face the side of myself I never want to reappear is something I can't get rid of, and I refuse to accept that possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit of DMG Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Yes, his life will change just as drastically as her's would. However, that doesn't mean that he has the right to deny the child, who had no say in the matter, the right to experience life! That child didn't ask to be conceived, and I'll be D****ED if I keep my mouth shut and watch as someone MURDERS such a pure life! Let's face it, we're developing a world where people can go out and be reckless, and not have to live with the consequences. I say, if someone is fool enough to roll the dice, then they should d***n well be man enough to pay the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted February 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Yes, his life will change just as drastically as her's would. However, that doesn't mean that he has the right to deny the child, who had no say in the matter, the right to experience life! That child didn't ask to be conceived, and I'll be D****ED if I keep my mouth shut and watch as someone MURDERS such a pure life! Let's face it, we're developing a world where people can go out and be reckless, and not have to live with the consequences. I say, if someone is fool enough to roll the dice, then they should d***n well be man enough to pay the price. What if the girl gets raped, and the doctors say she is too young and having the child can actually KILL her? Actually, it doesn't even have to be rape. What if she was irresponsible with her boyfriend, and is stuck in that situation? What then? =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit of DMG Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 In the event of rape, and that having the child can kill her, then that is indeed unfortunate. However, there are alternatives to abortion. Surrogacy, for instance. Plenty of women would love to have children, but are unable to conceive. Transplant the fetus to her. In the event of irresponsibility, I am inclined to repeat my "roll the dice, pay the price." However, the option of surrogacy is still there. Daisuke, there is nothing, I say again, [i]NOTHING[/i] that gives mortal man the right to tread where the Lord and Lady dwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 You say roll the dice meaning that it was an intentional decision. There are times where it would be completely unintentional. And life and death are nothing to people nowadays, death is something we can cause without a second thought. It's wrong, and I wish the world wasn't like that, but it is. But I feel if they can justify it to themselves, and there own souls, then they are free to make the decision despite how wrong it is to others. That is my belief and I respect you have your own. If some choose to believe nothing that justify abortion then that is fine. They will live there life how they wish to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit of DMG Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 You say roll the dice meaning that it was an intentional decision. There are times where it would be completely unintentional. And life and death are nothing to people nowadays, death is something we can cause without a second thought. It's wrong, and I wish the world wasn't like that, but it is. But I feel if they can justify it to themselves, and there own souls, then they are free to make the decision despite how wrong it is to others. That is my belief and I respect you have your own. If some choose to believe nothing that justify abortion then that is fine. They will live there life how they wish to. We're talking about pregnancy here. Not too many ways that can happen, are there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted February 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Just saying I'd rather an unborn fetus die, then having my own daughter die Even if it WAS because they were irresponsible with their bf :T I'd say surrogacy is a nice option tho. Tho IDK how it works too much xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 We're talking about pregnancy here. Not too many ways that can happen, are there? There are very many ways that can happen. Your comment just really pissed me off...please excuse me for that. ... As for abortion, I can understand why people have an aversion to ending human life. But you know, surrogacy isn't always an option, and in all honesty, ending the life of an undeveloped fetus is much better than ending the life of somebody who has already been born and felt the world. It's wrong, but sometimes it's also necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted February 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 There are very many ways that can happen. Your comment just really pissed me off...please excuse me for that. There is, and there isn't. There is a situational perspective There ISN'T in a physical perspective. My guess is DMG was referring to the physical perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 We're talking about pregnancy here. Not too many ways that can happen, are there? In theory no, in practice yes. But anyhow, I'm going to stop myself here before I do/say stuff I'll regret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 "Average guys don't have girlfriends often" Y'know, there are a LOT of guys with girlfriends, and a LOT of girls WITHOUT boyfriends...... I apologize about that blind comment, but it's what I gathered. Here in Indonesia, very few other guys in my school seem to have a girlfriend while girls seem to get tons of boyfriends with each passing month. They just, well, get it more often. Or maybe that's just because the ratio of ugly to amazing is imbalanced in my life. I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted February 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 I apologize about that blind comment, but it's what I gathered. Here in Indonesia, very few other guys in my school seem to have a girlfriend while girls seem to get tons of boyfriends with each passing month. They just, well, get it more often. Or maybe that's just because the ratio of ugly to amazing is imbalanced in my life. I don't know. O.o I guess it depends on the place. There are just as many, if not MORE 'ugly' women than ugly men. If you think about it, social media has led girls to believe they HAVE to be ideal. While men can be whatever they want. So it's more demanding on the women population to actually be 'good enough' to find a significant other. It seems it's easier for ugly guys to get girls, if they at least have a great personality, then it is for ugly girls to get guys, even IF they have great personality. Because, let's face it. Most guys DO want good-looking women. Everything else, like personality IS important, but it seems we've been led to believe by the current state of things that a woman with a hot body and no brain is better than one with a great personality and an ugly body/face. While that isn't totally true, I myself would like a balance between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Unclean One: VK Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Alright, just messaged her over Facebook explaining I'm not interested in being friends or anything all the while peppering the message with cheerful and happy advice. Then to make sure, I messaged her friends that I know to start cheering her up so I don't have to. Now we wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted February 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 "So I don't have to" Are you just against making friends, or are you just against something about this girl in particular? xDDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Must be horrible, being forced to help some random depressed and insecure girl who just wants support from a guy who's acting nice but in truth uncaring about any of her problems...sucks to be you, man. Wait- you messaged her friends? Oh, um...don't blame me if it gets worse than it already is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted February 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Must be horrible, being forced to help some random depressed and insecure girl who just wants support from a guy who's acting nice but in truth uncaring about any of her problems...sucks to be you, man. Wait- you messaged her friends? Oh, um...don't blame me if it gets worse than it already is. Remember, this girl also asked him out, ad he rejected her. I THINK he's kind of her friend...or...was? IDK x.x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Unclean One: VK Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 I was never her friend, but from what my friends could tell me, she was interested in me. Truth is, I prefer to spend time with people who also have my interests. Those type of people are mostly found online, in gamestores, or walking around town talking about politics, morality, and in cases of my friends, how to best run a dictatorship. Hayate, I don't have anything against this girl. It's just that I'm not interested in making friends unless she has something that I have in common. I know nothing about this girl and she knows nothing about me. I refuse to extend the hand of friendship until I can tell she's the type of person I'd hang out with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted February 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 I see..... Well I guess that makes sense, considering what I've learned about you xD So unless you somehow learn about a common interest you might have with someone, you probably WON'T become their friend? xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Unclean One: VK Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Correct. Works for me. Like how I met one of my best friends, is that during Health class when I was in high school, he quizzed his friend by asking what was rule 34. I said next to him, in the middle of class, porn. We became fast friends as we talked about the internet, porn, war, game making, and airsoft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 I haven't seen this many men talking about women's healthcare without a woman's input since Congress did it last year. @VK: Do what I do, just be really helpful when you can. I'm like that to most people, and while it has led to unplanned relationships in the past, it doesn't need to. It can help build up a good reputation (since people gossip about good things too) and frankly, it's just the right thing to do. Just because you're being helpful and really nice doesn't mean it needs to lead anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Marluxia~ Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Another day of pain, me crying, and life hurting me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted February 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Another day of pain, me crying, and life hurting me... What the heck happened? O.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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