DL Posted January 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Or you could, ya'know, just be trying to keep up some sort of heartless facade on this forum when you are in fact someone much more mentally weaker when it comes to reality. Lying's easy via words. ... Ignore me, I'm paranoid. But in any case, I believe it's more realistic to have a high-caliber manipulator than an honest person as your partner. Let's be honest, this world is a damned place full of untrustworthy people and events that only bring forth despair. An honest person will rarely attempt to hide all the misery in the world, and merely encourage you with words like 'be stronger', 'bear with it', 'it'll get better in the future', and 'I'll be with you no matter what happens'. However, let's place a manipulator into the role...isn't that much more suitable? The partner be under a perfect illusion that everything is just like a movie or romance novel, and that her manipulator is in fact an honest man which would put her heart at ease. Reality is flawed. In truth, humans are only given two choices in this world; live or dream. Now dreaming...it's much better than living, isn't it? Mask the misery. Mask the death. Nobody cares about the many people that die with each passing minute and day. Nobody cares about the many people that suffer in poverty and in abuse, in slavery and in torture. They only care about their own happiness, ultimately. So if someone can maintain that illusion of happiness, while convincing their partner that everything else in the world is also living happiness, then that would be great. Better than honesty. In the end, the only left is to admit one thing - that the imagination is superior to reality. It's interesting, cuz I could see that being a speech that an antagonist makes in some psychological warfare manga series. However, I'd prefer to live truth rather than fantasy. Because, it's harder to shape reality, than to shape dreams, but it's much more worth it. It's all worth it, in the end ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ｄｈａｒｃ Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Damn. That whole speech reminds me of an Orwell novel... I personally don't care either way, really. Low self-esteem and an abusive past does that to you. All I care about is that the person will put up with me. They could physically harm me in order to coerce me into doing their bidding, they could guilt-trip me, really anything. My ideal person is just one who does what makes them happy, because if I truly love someone, then that's all I want, y'know? I know I must sound like an idiot right now, but it's what I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Maeso Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 You're in a long range relationship? Yeah, this is why you don't get into one of those. Though you could try having both parties meet in a spot. I remember when my family was supposed to bring one of my cousins for a match making session with another family. So both of our families went to Kentucky (My family is in PA and there's was in LA) to meet each other (I was 13 at the time and wrestled with those scrawny brats and beaten the shit out of them.) and got to know each other. The session was determined a success and my cousin met his future wife. Try convincing both of your families to do something similar. Like scheduling (This is the impossible part) a type of get together. Like going to an amusement park or road trip to somewhere. This is not my first time ar a long range relationship, I knew where I was geting into. And even tho that the reunion idea isn't a bad one, like you said, it's impossible. You see I live in PR and she lives in RS, the two states are on the soth of Brazil, and are 1 state away from each other since there is SC between them, meeting in SC wouldn't be a bad idea, there are lots fo beaches and tourism around there that would fit as a meeting spot, but however it would be the come and going novel all over again, for us(me and my parents) it would be just like this one time we went to Salvador, we have relatives there, so we have a free place to stay, but in the other hand, her parents would take her brothers too, so it would be this family vacation thing, and passages and hotels for places on the coast with high tourism are way more expensive, so for all the 6 of them it would be really expensive, it would be just better to have them coming here, it would be cheaper and even that i live in the captal, it wouldn't cost that much as if it was in the coast or anything. I really apreciate that you took your time to say an idea that could help things to happen, but it's just that, it ain't gonna happen so fast. Ouch u.u I feel your pain, bro. Honestly, the best you can do is, hope she can visit you on your NEXT birthday. But, try and find a job as well, even part-time. You see, I can tell you really like this girl. So, be ready for any inconvenience of that sort. The stuff costs 1400? Have 2000 ready, just in case. This plan can work, I KNOW it can, but you have to do the one thing you can do right now, and that's save up money (the worker's way, not the saving-up-allowance way) that way, you can bring her there without any problem. I'm sorry it can't be this birthday, but it's NOT over, you still have lives ahead of you. I'm starting to think it was a very good idea to open this club. x.x Thanks man, but still there is hope, I mean it's still january, her bday is still coming, so if we are together there yet, I can go see her. Only if I could get a paying job... Here from the age of 14 to 17 you can't be really employed, you get the tittle of aprendice, and in 90% of the time you won't get money for it, unless you do direct work, like helping your local mini market with stocking, or anything of the sort, when I said you can't do a thing cause you are 16/17 years old teenager, I meant exactly that. What I do to get money is having a "Job" that is more to trying to fulfill a dream, I started a manga and I am publishing it at all my own cost and selling it, so far I've got around 70 bucks with it, not that it's much, but for just having 2 chapters so far I guess it is quite good. and yes, it was a very good idea to open this club u.u Or you could, ya'know, just be trying to keep up some sort of heartless facade on this forum when you are in fact someone much more mentally weaker when it comes to reality. Lying's easy via words. ... Ignore me, I'm paranoid. But in any case, I believe it's more realistic to have a high-caliber manipulator than an honest person as your partner. Let's be honest, this world is a damned place full of untrustworthy people and events that only bring forth despair. An honest person will rarely attempt to hide all the misery in the world, and merely encourage you with words like 'be stronger', 'bear with it', 'it'll get better in the future', and 'I'll be with you no matter what happens'. However, let's place a manipulator into the role...isn't that much more suitable? The partner be under a perfect illusion that everything is just like a movie or romance novel, and that her manipulator is in fact an honest man which would put her heart at ease. Reality is flawed. In truth, humans are only given two choices in this world; live or dream. Now dreaming...it's much better than living, isn't it? Mask the misery. Mask the death. Nobody cares about the many people that die with each passing minute and day. Nobody cares about the many people that suffer in poverty and in abuse, in slavery and in torture. They only care about their own happiness, ultimately. So if someone can maintain that illusion of happiness, while convincing their partner that everything else in the world is also living happiness, then that would be great. Better than honesty. In the end, the only left is to admit one thing - that the imagination is superior to reality. If you live to long and to much on just your imagination, when life strikes at you, you won't be able to hold yourself together and will brake, and harded than you might imagine. Reality is flawed, but it wouldn't be good if it was perfect, that the diference between reality and dreams, dreams are all perfect and good, reality is harsh and painfull, but also is what pushes you foward and makes you wanna do things and be who you are, reality ain't bad, you just need guts to go at it. The sole reason we live on is to find happiness, no mater what we think, in the end all we want is happiness, each one at its own way, be it by acomplishing everything that wanted, by having good memories, by simply living long enough to have somehtign to look back at, if you just dream and do nothing, when you look back to it, you will realize you wasted your life with make up fairy tales when you could have been someone, for you, for the world, or simply to someone you care for. Damn. That whole speech reminds me of an Orwell novel... I personally don't care either way, really. Low self-esteem and an abusive past does that to you. All I care about is that the person will put up with me. They could physically harm me in order to coerce me into doing their bidding, they could guilt-trip me, really anything. My ideal person is just one who does what makes them happy, because if I truly love someone, then that's all I want, y'know? I know I must sound like an idiot right now, but it's what I believe. You should also look at the person's side too, I mean, if all you want is to see the one you love happy, wouldn't the one you love have a similar view? If the person loves you, it will care for you obviously, and will love to see you happy to, so you can't just be a giver and think of what would make the person happy and feel good, also think about yourself and make it all happen, make your lover happy and be happy, if your lover also feels like that and will do anything to see you happy too, it would make you two both givers and recievers on your love, that would help and make your relationship stay up and don't fall into pieces. (I hope I helped and made it clear enough...for some reason I feel a bit unease about this... feels a bit confused for me...weird, I just wrote it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted January 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 It's funny cuz I'm brazilian, and I didn't know you had to be over 17 to work x.x Tho it makes sense, since you also have to be 18 to drive, if I'm not mistaken. I'd like to see your manga o3o Tho I can't exactly pay for it xDD lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Maeso Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 It's funny cuz I'm brazilian, and I didn't know you had to be over 17 to work x.x Tho it makes sense, since you also have to be 18 to drive, if I'm not mistaken. I'd like to see your manga o3o Tho I can't exactly pay for it xDD lol Wait, you are brazilian? Thats unexpected, where you from? and yeah, only when you are 18 that you can learn how to drive and actualy drive. I can send you the manga later in a PM or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted January 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 I'm from Recife Tho I only lived there until I was 9, then I went to the US till I was 17 Then back to Brazil for a year or so, to complete my 11th grade Now I'm in Panama xDD I am going in like, 20 days or so, to Brazil for a short vacation (like, 10 days or so) "Se Deus quera" =P And, send me wut in a PM? O.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Maeso Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 I'm from Recife Tho I only lived there until I was 9, then I went to the US till I was 17 Then back to Brazil for a year or so, to complete my 11th grade Now I'm in Panama xDD I am going in like, 20 days or so, to Brazil for a short vacation (like, 10 days or so) "Se Deus quera" =P And, send me wut in a PM? O.o Oh! I see, well I never went to Recife, or the US, or Panama... oh well. btw, you forgot an "i" in "queira" or you could have written "Se Deus quiser." agh! There I go agian correcting people in portuguese... Send the manga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Damn. That whole speech reminds me of an Orwell novel... I think you may be referring to 1984 there. Sounds a lot similar to me. I personally don't care either way, really. Low self-esteem and an abusive past does that to you. All I care about is that the person will put up with me. They could physically harm me in order to coerce me into doing their bidding, they could guilt-trip me, really anything. My ideal person is just one who does what makes them happy, because if I truly love someone, then that's all I want, y'know? I know I must sound like an idiot right now, but it's what I believe. I don't think you are an idiot for that, Dharc. And believe me, I know what's like to have low self-esteem. Maybe I should talk to you about that next time you are on Skype. And Dharc, that last part is what I believe as well. What is love if both people aren't happy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted January 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Oh! I see, well I never went to Recife, or the US, or Panama... oh well. btw, you forgot an "i" in "queira" or you could have written "Se Deus quiser." agh! There I go agian correcting people in portuguese... Send the manga. Don't worry xD I would like to be corrected in my portuguese actually, cuz it's been a while since I've practiced it x.x So I'm kinda forgetting some of it. Also, ooh that Yay, send it <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Wow I missed a lot. And I would love to put my views on most of it, But I can't because I need to try and make sense of something. In the past week my religious outlook on life has changed from being overly stubbornly atheist, to being... I don't even know what. Now feel free to label me as a crazy, but basically within the past week I have seen/communicated with on about 4 occasions now people who are dead. Naturally people important in my past, one being a friend who killed herself after blaming me, and the other I can't say because I swore to my ex I wouldn't. She is a very spiritual person, and knowing that, and that she had experienced that herself I asked for her advice/thoughts about it. It lead to me realizing just how much of an arse I really was, and surprisingly I didn't get overly depressed about that like I expected, but anyhows, the whole reason I'm having this rant aside from seeing it written down to get my head around it, is that I'm worried I am becoming my ex in personality and the way we act. I've noticed it before, and I've been annoyed about it, but carried on. But now... it's like seeing a Mirror, since we both got depressed after failed first relationships, we've both been visited by spirits, each of us have had a friend whose died, each of us have seen the same spirit (the one I canne talk about), and my mannerisms and speech patterns are so similar to hers now it's uncanny. I don't know what I can ask from you guys... But anything you have to say other than 'you are crazy' would be helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted January 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 o-o Well, can't say much...but... That is either a huge coincidence, or somethin weird goin on. You've talked to your ex about this, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Yeah she was the first person I talked to about it. Given how much of an impact she has in my life it was only natural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapidfire Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Holy fuck I actually did it. I had a pretty good day despite everything that happened yesterday. I kinda feel like I accomplished something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Unclean One: VK Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 So my stupid idea ignored? Good. Anyhow, what did you do Rapid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Holy fuck I actually did it. I had a pretty good day despite everything that happened yesterday. I kinda feel like I accomplished something! Well, congratulations Rapid. That's something to celebrate about. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapidfire Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 So my stupid idea ignored? Good. Anyhow, what did you do Rapid? I managed to be "myself". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kōsuke Ueki Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 Well, that IS an accomplishment. I have the same problem, cause a lot of people don't understand how Asperger's works with me, so they would be confused with a lot of things. Plus, irl. conversations are always started by me and I can never keep them going easily. EDIT: Congrats, Rapid. ;) Keep it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Maeso Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 She decided to tkae osme time because of everything I said on the other post. *sigh* I am really scared that we might have hit an end there... I hope and desire for it to just pass and we get stronger together, but I am really scared of that. Oh well... (edit: going to sleep now, need to get time passing as fast as possible so she comes back sooner in my perspective.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thar Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 Oh hey, this is kinda relevant to relationships... [spoiler=Kaka x Desu] [/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted January 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 ..What in the hell is that O_o I... I dont even x.x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosuke-kun Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Why would you post something so horrible? My eyes melted from my head just now D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 [spoiler=Maybe this will save your eyes] [/spoiler] Anyway, I head to Winter Formal in about 20 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosuke-kun Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 [spoiler=Maybe this will save your eyes] [/spoiler] Anyway, I head to Winter Formal in about 20 minutes. Why would that do anything? No, I'm honestly curious ._. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Why would that do anything? No, I'm honestly curious ._. What? It'll give you something to distract yourself from Thar's...thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thar Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 What? It'll give you something to distract yourself from Thar's...thing. None of y'all have seen Hellbenders? Or ANYTHING by Chris O'Niell? Regardless, I can't believe how easy it is to mindf*ck some of you. xD ...and I don't even know what was disturbing about it. Was it the last panel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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