Merci Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Claire, please, just calm down. Nobody was trying to argue with you, he was only pointing out other possible scenarios. Everyone has differing opinions, some people don't care about age, while others are traumatized due to events related to them. Reiji was only trying to point out that depressed people can get over something - or at least bottle it up - and move on enough. He wasn't arguing with you, only sharing his own opinion when it comes to age, or at least that's what it looked like to me. Personally, I agree with your viewpoint but maybe you're overreacting to other peoples' comments just a little bit...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 [quote name='Mugendramon' timestamp='1357876886' post='6117810'] *cough cough* [/quote] This post is less than one line. Try to generate some discussion or at least whine about something with finesse, please. I find age absolutely irrelevant, myself, though I'm almost inhuman in terms of morals or whatever drives such arbitrary norms, so something like a fifty year old turtle and a six year old boy being together don't bother me in the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 [quote name='Hina~' timestamp='1357917463' post='6118063'] This post is less than one line. Try to generate some discussion or at least whine about something with finesse, please. [/quote] Well, I chose to quote myself instead of repeating myself. Can you really blame me for that? He didn't get what I said, so I said it again. Sure, I could have pleased you by writing it over again, or just not even using the quotes, but it wouldn't have been any more worthwhile because of it. Cue you saying it wasn't worthwhile in the first place. Well what was I supposed to do, make a tirade on how he got it wrong?[quote name='Hina~' timestamp='1357917463' post='6118063'] I find age absolutely irrelevant, myself, though I'm almost inhuman in terms of morals or whatever drives such arbitrary norms, so something like a fifty year old turtle and a six year old boy being together don't bother me in the least. [/quote] Well, like I said. The relationship probably won't be successful, and the sheer difference in willpower with the example you just gave would make for a six year old toy in most cases. The thing lies in the weakness in the heart of the young. The younger, the more naive and so forth. A working relationship is possible. But it's just [b]so[/b] unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 [quote name='Mugendramon' timestamp='1357918368' post='6118071'] Well, I chose to quote myself instead of repeating myself. Can you really blame me for that? He didn't get what I said, so I said it again. Sure, I could have pleased you by writing it over again, or just not even using the quotes, but it wouldn't have been any more worthwhile because of it. Cue you saying it wasn't worthwhile in the first place. Well what was I supposed to do, make a tirade on how he got it wrong?[/quote] Making the post at least a line unless you want this club to be sent to games or punished in some way. Unless there are exceptions you didn't mention? I can not assume any exceptions without you telling me because I don't know how pedantic you are. [quote] Well, like I said. The relationship probably won't be successful, and the sheer difference in willpower with the example you just gave would make for a six year old toy in most cases. The thing lies in the weakness in the heart of the young. The younger, the more naive and so forth. A working relationship is possible. But it's just [b]so[/b] unlikely. [/quote] The point is made for those rare cases. If it is taken seriously, then the rarity of the event shouldn't matter. Examples being humanity existing as it currently does and you winning a race against an innumerable amount of other sperm cells, which has people preaching to appreciate what one has merely for that improbability. In terms of naïveté, that is as subjective as everything else. I, for one, find any little child much more mature than DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 That was one of my points. Maturity in age can vary greatly, just as how naïveté is subjective. And as for that law about underage dating...well, I see people in those kinds of relationships almost all the time. It doesn't appear to be enforced by anyone. Although the opposite is also true; older people are more mature (and thus smarter, in most cases), and thus know how to trick an unsuspecting innocent 11-year-old boy or girl. While not everyone's like that, it doesn't change the fact that some are and, well...honestly, the world's just an untrustworthy place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 >Child >More mature than DL That's a laugh. He's way more mature than any brat I've met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 [quote name='Hina~' timestamp='1357918909' post='6118076'] Making the post at least a line unless you want this club to be sent to games or punished in some way. Unless there are exceptions you didn't mention? I can not assume any exceptions without you telling me because I don't know how pedantic you are.[/quote] Sent to games? You're clearly exaggerating, if I say so myself. If I do have to make myself clear, because you evidently aren't going to give me any credit until I explicitly say something even it it's clearly obvious for someone as skilled with the language as you are; for all intended purposes the words I quoted from myself could be considered a part of the other posts. Here, I'll edit it so you see. [quote] The point is made for those rare cases. If it is taken seriously, then the rarity of the event shouldn't matter. Examples being humanity existing as it currently does and you winning a race against an innumerable amount of other sperm cells, which has people preaching to appreciate what one has merely for that improbability. In terms of naïveté, that is as subjective as everything else. I, for one, find any little child much more mature than DL. [/quote] Ugh, I rather dislike it when people accent french words which actually have a derivative word in English. Don't mind this, I'm just OCD about it. Anyway, you can't [i]really[/i] say being naive is subjective. Some people are going to believe things which others wouldn't, and fall for simple tricks. Sure, the [i]exact[/i] meaning of the word may vary, but the easiness with which a person may be tricked doesn't vary with that. Also don't speak of (im)maturity as if it meant the same thing as naivete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 [quote name='Josh Black' timestamp='1357920540' post='6118084'] >Child >More mature than DL That's a laugh. He's way more mature than any brat I've met. [/quote] Then you should invest in meeting more children instead of whatever this is supposed to be. [quote name='Mugendramon' timestamp='1357920674' post='6118085'] Sent to games? You're clearly exaggerating, if I say so myself. If I do have to make myself clear, because you evidently aren't going to give me any credit until I explicitly say something even it it's clearly obvious; for all intended purposes the words I quoted from myself could be considered a part of the other posts. Here, I'll edit it so you see. Ugh, I rather dislike it when people accent french words which actually have a derivative word in English. Don't mind this, I'm just OCD about it. [b]My iPod's dictionary believes otherwise. In addition, I also have a life-threatening mental disorder forcing me to notify you that you didn't capitalize "French," except I don't actually care.[/b] Anyway, you can't [i]really[/i] say being naive is subjective. Some people are going to believe things which others wouldn't, and fall for simple tricks. Sure, the [i]exact[/i] meaning of the word may vary, but the easiness with which a person may be tricked doesn't vary with that. Also don't speak of (im)maturity as if it meant the same thing as naivete. [/quote] Your earlier posts mention you losing patience in this club's spamming and telling DL to take control before you take action. Of course I can say it's subjective. Whether or not the trick is simple is subjective. If it is even a trick in the first place is subjective. How easy somebody is to trick is subjective. Since when was there an absolute end-all source stating the certainty of everything? As long as there isn't, there's no definite entity I see restricting what I can believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 [quote name='Hina~' timestamp='1357921260' post='6118090'] Then you should invest in meeting more children instead of whatever this is supposed to be. [/quote] Then you should stop being such a judgmental b****, like always, and learn what he's willing to do for someone he actually cares about. He's definitely stronger and much more mature than I am in at least one aspect, he just was man enough to not wave it around like a flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 [quote name='Hina~' timestamp='1357921260' post='6118090'] Your earlier posts mention you losing patience in this club's spamming and telling DL to take control before you take action. [/quote] Exactly, spam. Spam is something I wasn't doing. I was repeating myself, because he didn't understand what I meant with what I said. Bolding the part of my statement which he missed/misunderstood was meant to tell him that's what I meant. I'm sorry that word count is directly proportional to meaning. [quote] Of course I can say it's subjective. [/quote] Yeah, guess my mind control powers aren't strong enough to keep you from saying that. Hmph. [quote]Whether or not the trick is simple is subjective.[/quote] This might be so, yes. [quote]If it is even a trick in the first place is subjective.[/quote] Now this, this isn't so. The person who tells somebody something means it as a trick, or doesn't. It's black or white, that's not subjective. How the person takes it? Well that's the [i]trick[/i]. If they perceive it as a trick, then they do not get tricked by it. If they do not, then they are tricked by it. [quote] How easy somebody is to trick is subjective.[/quote] Err, how easy somebody is to trick depends on each person, because some are more naive than others. Your point? [quote] Since when was there an absolute end-all source stating the certainty of everything? As long as there isn't, there's no definite entity I see restricting what I can believe. [/quote] I'm sorry for questioning your free will to defy anyone's word. Truth is, there is not. But I'm sure you realize sometimes, that you argue for the sake of arguing? Because sure, you can believe anything. But that's your opinion. In fact, I'd go as far as saying that you thinking something is subjective is subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted January 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Ugh, the complicated speed Love love love love love < okay that makes up for it~ Anyway I am decently mature in some situations I just choose not to act in such a manner frequently. It's more entertaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 There's no point to quoting the entire post, but you understand it now, that the questioning of certainty can go so far as to question existence itself. They say it's a component of nihilism, but I don't think people can't give something a meaning, even if it inherently has none. Like Black a long time ago arguing against the actual heartlessness of love in a topic in General. Even if it has no actual meaning, he still gave it meaning to himself. You mentioned posts not being shorter than one line earlier. You should've stated what did and what didn't count for spam when a newly-made post had less than a line, otherwise I could assume anything below a line was spam and to be warned. He also called me a b**** but I'm not going to reply to that part because that's hateful. It's not exactly being less of a man if you can admit it. I don't know what being a "man" means to you, but admitting a fault or mistake is commendable in itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted January 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Being mature is a fault? O.o ANYWAY http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/099/c/f/chibi_luv_by_zuyu-d4viy7u.png Anyone else think that that's a pedosmile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Well considering the nature of the picture I can't even tell whether either of them is younger than the other. And I only consider something a pedosmile when it comes from a potential pedo. Otherwise it's reallycreepysmile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted January 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Then it's a really creepy smile :'DD I used to be so obsessed with chibis xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 [quote name='Mugendramon' timestamp='1357920674' post='6118085'] Sent to games? You're clearly exaggerating, if I say so myself. [/quote] Tell that to Sugar Cube Corner. [quote name='Hayate Ayasaki~' timestamp='1357923176' post='6118114'] [url="http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/099/c/f/chibi_luv_by_zuyu-d4viy7u.png"]http://fc09.devianta...uyu-d4viy7u.png[/url] Anyone else think that that's a pedosmile? [/quote] Subject worries me due to what's happened in the past so don't take offense if I don't participate in it. And seeing as I have no clue on the argument earlier I shall stay in the shadows for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 [quote name='Miror~' timestamp='1357924707' post='6118141'] Tell that to Sugar Cube Corner. [/quote] Sugar Cube was about ponies. AKA the most easily-derailable topic to ever exist. It derived into posting funny junk, so Opal took action. One or two crappy one-liners won't send a club into Games. At least not as far as I'm concerned. Maybe Opal has something else in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.WHAM Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 [quote name='Hayate Ayasaki~' timestamp='1357922721' post='6118106'] Ugh, the complicated speed Love love love love love < okay that makes up for it~ Anyway I am decently mature in some situations I just choose not to act in such a manner frequently. It's more entertaining [/quote] DL this is so true! Why go through life like it's the last day instead of living it until the last day? And this club has been around for what like 2/3 weeks now and amassed 83 pages, and from what I've been seeing most of the conversation isn't spam. So you all should chill and continue to argue over the topics like you're all good at. Let those egos flare, so long as it provides ON TOPIC conversation and not about sleep unless you happen to be talking about someone who loved to sleep. The point is you all post well and quickly so do so more on topic or broaden the scope of opics the club can discuss. That's all I have to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kōsuke Ueki Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 [quote name='Mr.WHAM' timestamp='1357934932' post='6118294'] DL this is so true! Why go through life like it's the last day instead of living it until the last day? [/quote] 0_o Why [b]not[/b]!? Here's my argument on that Whammy. imho, life usually determines our fate by the chances we take and don't take. Sometimes, we don't take that chance to go to a college we've dreamed about, and you end up with something better in the future, like a chance to work in a multi-billion-dollar company for example. But, sometimes, the choices we make could easily end up having us getting killed. The most obvious one is that if you don't pay back the loan a gang gave you, you get shot and most likely killed if you're not aware of where they'll shoot you. I say chance is always the reason why our lives are as they are. If you don't take a chance in something, then there's something in your mind saying that they're something better out there then what you had plans for. But, we don't know what the end result will be. We could actually find something better, or we could end up in the wrong place at the right time (Or wrong time which is more likely). And you end up in something that never concerned you. Plus, tbh, we don't know when we'll die, so some of us try to live life to the fullest because waiting for the day you die might take longer than you originally intended. Also, we could all die right now if life wanted it to happen. Things happen for a reason, whether it be for better ot for worse, and we have to deal with it because it cannot be changed, no matter what you believe. I've lost two aunts within 2 months, and I never knew one of them. Plus, she had intentions of visiting me, my mom, and my brother, but she died because she ate a donut while having Type 2 Diabetes. Like I said, we don't know when we'll die, because we aren't fully aware of our surroundings, along with what's going on in everyday life in other parts of the world. We could die from the simplest things, and from chain reactions we don't realize until it's too late to react and get away. I'd mention the Final Destination movies, but I'm pretty sure you all know what I'm gonna say if I bring that up. [quote name='Mr.WHAM' timestamp='1357934932' post='6118294']And this club has been around for what like 2/3 weeks now and amassed 83 pages, and from what I've been seeing most of the conversation isn't spam. So you all should chill and continue to argue over the topics like you're all good at. Let those egos flare, so long as it provides ON TOPIC conversation and not about sleep unless you happen to be talking about someone who loved to sleep. The point is you all post well and quickly so do so more on topic or broaden the scope of opics the club can discuss. That's all I have to say.[/quote] I agree. But any sign of spam could easily lead to a club's downfall if you don't take the necessary actions to prevent any escalations in the future, imo. And I agree some of the people here can go over-the-top at times, and that usually annoys me because the topic can end up expanding in directions it was never intended to go. And that's because everybody wants to get in on it with their own damn opinions and end up spamming about something completely different! *Sigh* All I'm saying is, if you intend on jumping into an argument, at least try to be civil about it and don't end up getting mad over some bullshit that's unnecessary (I'm being a little bit hypocritical, I know, but it's just something I need to get out there), like what Claire did (No offense). If you want to get mad about something, take it to the PMs, cause I don't want to see that kind of crap here! Getting mad over a simple disagreement of opinions can easily resort to flaming if you're not careful (Like what Black did to Hina by calling her a b*tch), which I myself have also done before because I can get mad at times for stupid sh*t, but that's usually my subconscious doing that, so it's not entirely my fault, but I end up putting full blame on myself depending in the consequences of what I have done. Whew! Glad I got this off my chest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.WHAM Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Double I understand that perspective my thoughts are just that if you can or you cannot take a chance. If you do take it you go down one path and if you don't you go down the other. But do or don't in the choice that you've made live it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Life is the sum of a billion independent factors that decide everything that's going to happen. We have no more say in it than trying to control the weather. All we can do is experience it. Now, whilst our actions seem to influence it, our actions are the sum of a million of actions within your brain. As such, from any single actions there are an infinite number of possibly outcomes to that, meaning life is ultimately complete chance. Since Death is the only certainty in life, living life as if it were our last day has plus's and minus's. If our brain was in that sort of state, out actions would be more reckless without fear of the consequences, but life without fear of the consequences will make life end terribly. If you choose to live in fear of death, you may never take risks as you are afraid of your actions causing your own demise. Or you accept the futility of life, ad just go through the motions till the end. I admit those are extreme examples, but it comes into my opinion. There is no point living like its your last day, or living it till the last day. All you can do is live each day, and respond to everything as it happens. Plans will fail, things will go wrong, you will exceed your limits, and things will go right as well. Anything else will lead to disapointments in the end. And whilst having an ultimate aim in life is fine, and a driving force behind your actions will help you reach your goals in part, the odds of it happening are slim to none when put into perspective. But humans being humans it doesn't stop us trying. And as for the maturity part. Being mature when you need to be, but being able to relax and be carefree when not is probably best. Since, there are times where being immature will destroy you, and the same can be said for maturity. No one likes a bore after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 [quote name='Double C4' timestamp='1357941527' post='6118398'] 0_o Why [b]not[/b]!? Here's my argument on that Whammy. imho, life usually determines our fate by the chances we take and don't take. Sometimes, we don't take that chance to go to a college we've dreamed about, and you end up with something better in the future, like a chance to work in a multi-billion-dollar company for example. But, sometimes, the choices we make could easily end up having us getting killed. The most obvious one is that if you don't pay back the loan a gang gave you, you get shot and most likely killed if you're not aware of where they'll shoot you. I say chance is always the reason why our lives are as they are. If you don't take a chance in something, then there's something in your mind saying that they're something better out there then what you had plans for. But, we don't know what the end result will be. We could actually find something better, or we could end up in the wrong place at the right time (Or wrong time which is more likely). And you end up in something that never concerned you. Plus, tbh, we don't know when we'll die, so some of us try to live life to the fullest because waiting for the day you die might take longer than you originally intended. Also, we could all die right now if life wanted it to happen. Things happen for a reason, whether it be for better ot for worse, and we have to deal with it because it cannot be changed, no matter what you believe. I've lost two aunts within 2 months, and I never knew one of them. Plus, she had intentions of visiting me, my mom, and my brother, but she died because she ate a donut while having Type 2 Diabetes. Like I said, we don't know when we'll die, because we aren't fully aware of our surroundings, along with what's going on in everyday life in other parts of the world. We could die from the simplest things, and from chain reactions we don't realize until it's too late to react and get away. I'd mention the Final Destination movies, but I'm pretty sure you all know what I'm gonna say if I bring that up. I agree. But any sign of spam could easily lead to a club's downfall if you don't take the necessary actions to prevent any escalations in the future, imo. And I agree some of the people here can go over-the-top at times, and that usually annoys me because the topic can end up expanding in directions it was never intended to go. And that's because everybody wants to get in on it with their own damn opinions and end up spamming about something completely different! *Sigh* All I'm saying is, if you intend on jumping into an argument, at least try to be civil about it and don't end up getting mad over some bullshit that's unnecessary (I'm being a little bit hypocritical, I know, but it's just something I need to get out there), like what Claire did (No offense). If you want to get mad about something, take it to the PMs, cause I don't want to see that kind of crap here! Getting mad over a simple disagreement of opinions can easily resort to flaming if you're not careful (Like what Black did to Hina by calling her a b*tch), which I myself have also done before because I can get mad at times for stupid sh*t, but that's usually my subconscious doing that, so it's not entirely my fault, but I end up putting full blame on myself depending in the consequences of what I have done. Whew! Glad I got this off my chest. [/quote] a few tips: 1) if you arent trying to offend, dont single people out and say "you did bad." adding a lil no offense to the end doesnt really change the fact that youre still picking on one person. 2) our disagreement was always on topic. the topic was whether it is acceptable for underage and adult people to date. my position was always "please be careful because a lot of people (including me) have been hurt by doing that." that was apparently not acceptable to some people, who had to make pretty disgusting comments about the matter. 3) i tried to be civil for as long as i possibly could and it was only until i was told things such as "get over it" and that i was overreacting (i dont consider being upset about a traumatic past experience "overreacting" and its not okay to suggest that someone is overreacting in that kind of situation) that i got mad. i do regret losing my temper there but the fact remains that it was not without reason. 4) whether you feel something is bullshit or unnecessary is an opinion on your part. if you dont like the current topic you can just leave for awhile like i eventually did. but as long as the topic is on something relating to relationships and it is appropriate wrt all the rules both for the club and the forum in general its not really anyones place to decide that its not acceptable. you dont have to read the parts you dont like. no ones forcing you. thats all. have a good day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapidfire Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Alright so what would your idea of a perfect date be? (I felt like the thread was really slow) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Games Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Probably to best dates i've been on are just hanging out and going on a walk. Talking and getting to know each other. Then best case scenario we walk our way into a bedroom.... lie down...and take a nap after all that walking. Maybe not 1st date material. Movie dates are cool and all, but im a talker, and turns out thats annoying *shrug* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 A Club going silent for two days isn't slow, God. ._. A perfect date... Well, I've had one of those, by my definition. Not even leaving the house, you know? She and I, alone at her house, we watched a movie, then cuddled in her bed for a while. Slept a while. Woke up, watched another movie, I cooked something for us, then cuddle again. ...THEN parents get there and I get to leave. But it was an amazing time I had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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