~YCM's Dating Club~ (Join, because we're cool ;D)

[Lt. Colonel Remo]

[quote name='Hina~' timestamp='1356893140' post='6106196']
I'll totally talk to VK in private and see how he behaves, subliminally engaging in a psychoanalysis on him.
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You had to talk in private to psychoanalyze him? Much to learn this padawan has

[Tourmaline]

[quote name='General Remo' timestamp='1356893558' post='6106205']
You had to talk in private to psychoanalyze him? Much to learn this padawan has
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Why are your posts bland and irrelevant humor for the most part?

[♦~Thug-Life~♦]

[quote name='Fluttershy401' timestamp='1356892988' post='6106192']
I've been in 8 or so.
I'm 19, and a virgin :3
You?
Also, Remo, ur silly :'DD
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I've been in like 27, most were short.

I'm not a virgin.

[Mr.WHAM]

[quote name='Double C4' timestamp='1356755442' post='6104843']
*takes deep breath* Perhaps it's best to start from the beginning...

[spoiler=My Story]During my Junior year in high school last year, I was part of this Intro Theater Class. It was of my own volition to choose it the year before because acting was an interest I had for a long time. Anyway, it was one of the few classes I actually liked, but some of what I liked about it was taken away once I started getting annoyed like hell by this one kid, who did nothing but tease me for no reason. And every day he did it, I wanted to smack him upside the head. But I'm not like that, since I'm a pacifist. And to be honest, he was the reason why I wasn't able to fully enjoy being in that class. But he's not the focal point. He just gets involved later on.

Anyway, this story actually starts when I notice this one girl in my Theater class, named Desiree. She was one of the more beautiful girls I've met in my life and befriended. And well, allow me to put it this way. Every beautiful girl I befriend, there's always that one thought in my mind, wanting to ask this girl out. But another thought of there being another guy with this girl always confuses me. And at times, I ask a few of these girls that question about having a boyfriend, and about more than half of them said yes, turning down my future offers. And for the rest, I keep to myself, staying as total friends, and I'm cool with that full circle. This is when Asperger's (Borderline, really) Autism, same as Striker, makes this a routine, and I wish I could've done something about it sooner.

Anyway, back to what I was talking about, like I said, because Desiree was another of these beautiful girls that I could possibly have a chance with, I still had that possibility in my mind saying that she is with somebody. And soon enough, she told me herself that, and my hopes were dashed again. And I thought, [i]And that's another girl off my list of possible date[/i]. However, what broke the routine, and what shocked me to all hell, was that she asked ME out some time later. I didn't know what to do. I've never experienced this break in the routine, so I had to improvise and find the best way to get out of this so I know how to get out of it the next time it happens, which might not happen for a long time. Believe me. After school is done, who knows when I'll find that special someone?

Here's what I did: For the first couple times Desiree asked me to go out with her, even though she was still with this other guy, I replied, "No." And every time I said it, she asked, "Why?" It wasn't until around the third time (Maybe?) she asked that I finally said, "Because you already have a boyfriend." And then, the weirdest response I've ever gotten in my entire life from her was, "So?" This hit me right on the brain, and I thought, [i]Okay, now I know there's something wrong here.[/i] She was wrong in the head, and I just wanted to get away from her[i].[/i] But I couldn't. Why? Because she was too damn beautiful to walk away. And I hate breaking women's hearts, unless they're bullying me, then I don't care. And soon enough, her beauty made me give in, and I said to her, "I'll try."

And that, was the biggest mistake of my life. Why? Because I lied to her face. I said I'll try this out, but what I'm really doing, is making her happy by saying we go out in school, when I don't have her phone number, her Facebook, no means of contact other than passing by each other in school. We say hi to each other, he hug most of the time, I occasionally ask how's she's doing, and that's it. We walk passed each other like nothing happened. And she seems okay with that. And if I tell her I've been lying to her, I would have a guilty conscience for hurting her. Even though I would have admitted it to her, I wouldn't have said it to everybody in school, and it would slowly but surely spread throughout the school. And the story would be altered from how it went as a result.

But here's the reason as to why I haven't gotten myself out of this mess. I never bothered to ask Desiree if she was still with this other guy, even after we have been "going out" for over a year. I should have, but if I did, I'd be at risk of her getting suspicious and then things begin going down a road I don't want it to go down to. My life is currently at risk at the moment, mainly because of the fact that because I am currently unknown to whether or not this guy is still around, how do I know that he won't come to my school with a pistol and try to kill me for messing with his girl's feelings? I've made one mistake after another, and I have no clue how to get out of this without making a huge fuss out of this, or anyone else doing the same. I'm truly stuck on what my solution is as of now.

And here's what I think will happen if I tell the whole school about this lie. Desiree will cry her heart out because she was so foolish in believing in a guy like me and wouldn't want to talk to me ever again. But that's just with her. Her friends will be all over me, constantly asking me, "Why did you do this to her?" "How can you manipulate that girl's emotions for over a year?" And I'll reply, "Because my mind couldn't handle turning down her offer." And I'm pretty sure I have to explain what happened at a different angle just to have everybody understand all this, but still treat me like crap. I just can't go through with it, not yet. I'm not ready to die.

Now, to everybody in school, I'm the guy who does the morning announcements everyday I'm present. But, if I tell the truth, then everybody's gonna think differently of me, minus a few friends I've already told who are for telling Desiree the truth. And I'm gonna end up being the guy who screwed an innocent girl's emotions for over a year because she was too beautiful to turn down. And remember the annoying guy I mentioned before? Well, currently, he keeps saying to me, "She's a keeper." Well, wouldn't that be nice, if I actually was going out with her. Once I tell the truth, he's gonna keep reminding me of what I did, as if I didn't understand what I was doing, and I might end up being in my first fight. I feel horrible for messing with Desiree all this time, and telling the truth won't make a difference cause I'm never gonna forget when I end up saying yes to her offer.

I...I just can't find a way out of this. If there was any way for me to get out of this without it ruining both Desiree's life and mine, I'll take it so long as it's something within my moral code. Because there are so many things that I can't do that I wish I could do, but my Autism has really f*cked up my judgement, and now I'm screwed. If my life is at risk all because I said yes, then my life is already forfeit because I'm pretty sure this other guy is possibly some big black guy with a pistol who is part of gang and will shoot me when he finds out what I look like and then kill me on sight. If I can avoid that, I would take that opportunity, no matter the reason. But I don't see that happening. I'd say I've been worrying about this more than I worried about the end of the world before the day it was proven false.[/spoiler]

*Breathes deeply* So, yeah. I got the short end of the stick, and I'm at a standstill at what to do.

BTW, because I lack any contact with her, I can't tell her as of now. But even then, I'd hesitate every time I try.

Can anyone relate? Probably not.
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C4 you have to understand a few things here.

1. No female EVER, EVER.EVEVEVEVEVEVEEEVEVEVEVERRR asks out another man unless he's death defyingly hot or she WANTS you.
2. You should not have said "Yes" to her at all.
3. IT's been over a year and you don't have her real contact info. That's a serious problem.
4. Find her in a non-obsessive way.
5. Her name is Desiree.
6. You have to find out where you stand, and this is where lying can come into play. You are being hard on yourself. It is okay to have regrets but do not constantly have them because you're afraid of what you want. That being said, establish a place in your relationship with her. Find out whether you are the only man and take a stand to be the only one. Women love confidence, it makes us more attractive for various reasons.
7. Despite saying yes, she should not have asked you out if she is with someone else then she should be with him and if SHE wants you then it is her job to make sure that happens cause she wants it, and it's yours to make sure she gets to you.

[♦~Thug-Life~♦]

Yeah, you should call it quits on finding her. Love suppose to come easily.

[Lt. Colonel Remo]

[quote name='Hina~' timestamp='1356893645' post='6106208']
Why are your posts bland and irrelevant humor for the most part?
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It's how roll

Whether they are bland are simply your opinion. Do you think I care about meaningless conjecture?

[Aerion Brightflame]

If you were saying love is supposed to come easy? I disagree a lot.

It takes time, and patience and a whole lot of luck. A relationship can come easily, but love doesn't. There's a huge difference between the two.

[Mr.WHAM]

I feel as though I owe you all an "Interrogate the new guy" SO please, ask me something.
And are we counting online relationships?

[♦~Thug-Life~♦]

I get in a relationship easily, and that's when I build up love. If it works then BAM, you got love. If it don't; then BOOM, i wasn't meant to be. To me they come easily.

I never been on an online relationship; those are for the desperate people.

[Tourmaline]

[quote name='General Remo' timestamp='1356894081' post='6106221']
It's how roll

Whether they are bland are simply your opinion. Do you think I care about meaningless conjecture?
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The reason I was given some sort of position is to point out worthless posts and drivel like yours and attempt to improve the situation. Whether or not it is a meaningless conjecture to me doesn't change the fact it does nothing for the conversation, so please try to keep your individuality out of it.

[Mr.WHAM]

[quote name='Overlord Barty' timestamp='1356894123' post='6106225']
If you were saying love is supposed to come easy? I disagree a lot.

It takes time, and patience and a whole lot of luck. A relationship can come easily, but love doesn't. There's a huge difference between the two.
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It depends on the type of love and the ype of person being loved/loving.

We will treat it in the romantic sense of the word.
In casual dating, "Love" may not be all that easy to come by, but it isn't hard either. It just takes effort in all the right & wrong places. You have to be willing to give love in order to receive it. That's the whole concept of "Who says I love you" first. That first person makes themselves open. Next, you have to determine whether this is someone you are willing to work for. For some it's easier than others. Third, will this person stay around? Some people make great girlfriends/boyfriends but would be terrible to marry for any number of reasons. Love in relationships can spring up pretty easy and in different levels. There's puppy/newlywed love, there's "I'm forreal when I say it" love, there's "You know it's true don't deny it" love, there's "This is our reality and we will be together in it" and so on and so forth. Reaching the right point is smiply a matter of seeing the person you want to be with can get to the next stage with you. And if they can't you break up and eventually move on.
Just because a relationship is short doesn't make it meaningless.

[Lt. Colonel Remo]

You were appointed to your position to prevent spam from overcoming a club with a very vague purpose, not to impose martial law on anything that didn't have the word "love" in it. Last I checked, I was contributing to a conversation on rousing speeches you see in movies. And even THEN I was able to turn it back towards C4's love dilemma.

But honestly, I am starting to see that my unique brand of posting is clearly unwanted here. I've dealt with people like you, Hina, and I know what to expect.

DL, I am leaving this club. I apologize for any "spam" posts that might've put this club in danger. It seems Hina and I are not compatible.

[Mr.WHAM]

I see no reason for that. It's obviously an opinion. Clubs will go off topic every now and again and I see no reason not to be humorous. This argument between the two of you seems a bit extreme and extremely unnecessary. Kiss and make up.

[Tourmaline]

[quote name='Mr.WHAM' timestamp='1356896059' post='6106274']
I see no reason for that. It's obviously an opinion. Clubs will go off topic every now and again and I see no reason not to be humorous. This argument between the two of you seems a bit extreme and extremely unnecessary. Kiss and make up.
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I don't mind at all.
It isn't even a question about incompatibility. If I misunderstood you, instead of placing my entire personality under a generalization then making an assumption on how I'll react, he should try to have me understand him. Petulance is not mature at all, and I was (and still) willing to listen if he takes the time to explain what the point of his posts are for.

[Aerion Brightflame]

[quote name='♦~Thug-Life~♦' timestamp='1356894343' post='6106228']
I get in a relationship easily, and that's when I build up love. If it works then BAM, you got love. If it don't; then BOOM, i wasn't meant to be. To me they come easily.
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But that doesn't make love easy, becuase you are still building towards it, putting effort towards it. If it were easy then people wouldn't strive for it, because the greatest things in life come from putting effort towards them. But you have your opinion, and I have mine. And that's fine.

[quote name='Mr.WHAM' timestamp='1356894827' post='6106238']
It depends on the type of love and the ype of person being loved/loving.

We will treat it in the romantic sense of the word.
In casual dating, "Love" may not be all that easy to come by, but it isn't hard either. It just takes effort in all the right & wrong places. You have to be willing to give love in order to receive it. That's the whole concept of "Who says I love you" first. That first person makes themselves open. Next, you have to determine whether this is someone you are willing to work for. For some it's easier than others. Third, will this person stay around? Some people make great girlfriends/boyfriends but would be terrible to marry for any number of reasons. Love in relationships can spring up pretty easy and in different levels. There's puppy/newlywed love, there's "I'm forreal when I say it" love, there's "You know it's true don't deny it" love, there's "This is our reality and we will be together in it" and so on and so forth. Reaching the right point is smiply a matter of seeing the person you want to be with can get to the next stage with you. And if they can't you break up and eventually move on.
Just because a relationship is short doesn't make it meaningless.
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I never said a short relationship is insiginifcant, I know it's not. Just that it is easier to get into a relationship with someone than it is to fall in love with them. I suppose it comes down to my definition of love then doesn't it. Which whilst I would love to share... it's not something that can easily be said. But I do agree that love varies given the circumstances and the people involved.

[Lt. Colonel Remo]

[i]Trust [/i]me, I've seen where this kind of thing goes

It wasn't going to work out. I'm afraid I'd rather play it safe and leave now before I cause any more trouble. Thug-life just joined and we can only afford to have one idiot

[♦~Thug-Life~♦]

[quote name='General Remo' timestamp='1356896518' post='6106290']
[i]Trust [/i]me, I've seen where this kind of thing goes
It wasn't going to work out. I'm afraid I'd rather play it safe and leave now before I cause any more trouble. Thug-life just joined and we con only afford to have one idiot
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If only we could meet up in real life (; Later broooooo

[Aerion Brightflame]

Surely it would be worth trying to change things if you see where it's going? Rather than just give up. If you know it's going to go wrong, then you should know how, which means you should know how to change things?

[♦~Thug-Life~♦]

No, it's better for him to go. His too serious, and is negative about anything that doesn't fit him well.

[Mr.WHAM]

I still think you should stay Remo, cause it pretty much looks like the two of you have moved past it. It makes sense to because it was [i][u][b]FILTHY STINKING CASUAL[/b].[/u][/i]

[quote name='Overlord Barty' timestamp='1356896507' post='6106289']
I never said a short relationship is insiginifcant, I know it's not. [b]True & I agree.[/b]
Just that it is easier to get into a relationship with someone than it is to fall in love with them. [b]Also true; what I gave was a ways to do that and the conditions surrounding it. Maybe a guide of sorts.[/b]
I suppose it comes down to my definition of love then doesn't it. Which whilst I would love to share... it's not something that can easily be said. [b]Love to an individual may mean different things as well as that which one will put themselves through but what love is never changes. [/b]
But I do agree that love varies given the circumstances and the people involved. [b]Two relationships cannot be the same for that reason because some form of love existed.[/b]
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Love can be large as in will you marry me to small as in I love Ice cream, but it is still all love nonetheless.

[♦~Thug-Life~♦]

Well anyways. Who has love problems?

[Simping For Hina]

[quote name='Mr.WHAM' timestamp='1356897156' post='6106316']
Love can be large as in will you marry me to small as in I love Ice cream, but it is still all love nonetheless.
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You seem to think, just by this statement, that love has one generic connotation though.
Like you said, love varies, but can love be even called love if it does? It seems to belittle the term that people try to put so much meaning into.
It is not [i]still[/i] love, it is emotions.

[Kōsuke Ueki]

[quote name='Mr.WHAM' timestamp='1356893863' post='6106215']
C4 you have to understand a few things here.

1. No female EVER, EVER.EVEVEVEVEVEVEEEVEVEVEVERRR asks out another man unless he's death defyingly hot or she WANTS you.
2. You should not have said "Yes" to her at all.
3. IT's been over a year and you don't have her real contact info. That's a serious problem.
4. Find her in a non-obsessive way.
5. Her name is Desiree.
6. You have to find out where you stand, and this is where lying can come into play. You are being hard on yourself. It is okay to have regrets but do not constantly have them because you're afraid of what you want. That being said, establish a place in your relationship with her. Find out whether you are the only man and take a stand to be the only one. Women love confidence, it makes us more attractive for various reasons.
7. Despite saying yes, she should not have asked you out if she is with someone else then she should be with him and if SHE wants you then it is her job to make sure that happens cause she wants it, and it's yours to make sure she gets to you.
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1. You say that only because a woman never asked YOU out so you're putting bullsh*t out in the air to make me think otherwise. Women ask men out for the same reasons men ask women out. But, it's a matter of perspective and opinion with you people, so think what you like.
2. Do you think I WANTED to say yes?! If you knew how my judgement was like each day, if you saw a picture of her, you'd understand that beauty like that can't be turned down. Besides, I hate getting women I befriend upset. It hurts me on the inside, too,
3. [b]I KNOW!!![/b] I'm not f**king blind Whammy! I kept it that way, and she doesn't care! Besides, I already have her Facebook. Problem is, she doesn't use it, so I got no other way to contact her.
4. I'm confused by what you mean. My options are severely limited pal. If I can't find her through her friends, then I will have to wait until school comes back up to talk to her directly (Which I don't mind, it's just I like to exploit my options while I have them to see if talking to her directly is the only way).
5. What. The F**k. Is wrong. With her name!? You know, you got a lot of nerve jumping to conclusions like this. That's a beautiful name, and you seem to have a problem with it, like you knew someo- OOOOHHHH!! So you know someone with that name and you're being an ass about it?! Real mature Whammy!
6. Dude, you are way off. The solution to that is already on the way. You came WAY too late with that. Stay with the class next time.
7. *sigh* This time I agree with you. Granted, I don't know how the next couple events will progress, but I know it'll happen in two very distinct solutions:[b] a.[/b] She isn't with this guy and I can finally stop holding back with her and make things right. Or [b]b.[/b] she IS still with this guy, and if I tell her I was lying about being with her this whole time, she'll snitch on this guy. He'll feel betrayed and leave her, but he'll come into my school looking for me and beat me to a bloody pulp. I'd say that's more logical than having him come in with a concealed weapon and shoot me on sight when he knows his target.

You know, Whammy, you didn't have to be a jerk when giving this advice. Just saiyan.

[Mr.WHAM]

[quote name='Double C4' timestamp='1356900959' post='6106373']
1. You say that only because a woman never asked YOU out so you're putting bullsh*t out in the air to make me think otherwise. Women ask men out for the same reasons men ask women out. But, it's a matter of perspective and opinion with you people, so think what you like. [b]1. I have had females ask me out. 2. Women do it a lot less than men. Significantly so. To hear stories about that is rare. It is a matter of both those things as well as this women have been pursued by men more often than they pursue men. Why? Because men pursue women more. If you don't believe me ask the men here how many girls they have pursued then ask the girls.[/b]
2. Do you think I WANTED to say yes?! If you knew how my judgement was like each day, if you saw a picture of her, you'd understand that beauty like that can't be turned down. Besides, I hate getting women I befriend upset. It hurts me on the inside, too [b]I do not know what your judgment is like, I have ability to see a picture of her so I imagine Megan Fox. I hate upsetting my cared ones too, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't. The point is you said yes and cannot change that. Other than that if you know your judgment attempt to make better decisions. I firmly believe you are already. Just trying to strengthen this point. [/b]
3. [b]I KNOW!!![/b] I'm not f**king blind Whammy! I kept it that way, and she doesn't care! Besides, I already have her Facebook. Problem is, she doesn't use it, so I got no other way to contact her. [b]Woah bruh calm down. I'm saying that because I thought you didn't have anyway of finding it out. Trying to deduce what happens what is going on in your life. And out of curiosity why did you keep it that way.[/b]
4. I'm confused by what you mean. My options are severely limited pal. If I can't find her through her friends, then I will have to wait until school comes back up to talk to her directly (Which I don't mind, it's just I like to exploit my options while I have them to see if talking to her directly is the only way).[b]I mean don't like a creeper when trying to get her contact info. Nothing offensive just sounds that way.[/b]
5. [b]I like her name.[/b]
6. [b]I just got here I'm just giving my two cents.[/b]
7. *sigh* This time I agree with you. Granted, I don't know how the next couple events will progress, but I know it'll happen in two very distinct solutions:[b] a.[/b] She isn't with this guy and I can finally stop holding back with her and make things right. Or [b]b.[/b] she IS still with this guy, and if I tell her I was lying about being with her this whole time, she'll snitch on this guy. He'll feel betrayed and leave her, but he'll come into my school looking for me and beat me to a bloody pulp. I'd say that's more logical than having him come in with a concealed weapon and shoot me on sight when he knows his target.

You know, Whammy, you didn't have to be a jerk when giving this advice. Just saiyan. [b]I wasn't I was giving my honest opinion in what I thought was a decent way.[/b]
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[quote name='Vivacious Skyfall' timestamp='1356900033' post='6106363']
You seem to think, just by this statement, that love has one generic connotation though.
Like you said, love varies, but can love be even called love if it does? It seems to belittle the term that people try to put so much meaning into.
It is not [i]still[/i] love, it is emotions.
[b]I debate this because love doesn't just mean romantic. There are 3 technical types: Romantic, Agopic & Platonic[/b]
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[Simping For Hina]

[quote name='Mr.WHAM' timestamp='1356903183' post='6106403']
[/quote]You're not debating anything though. You are summarizing things into specific topics to generalize the types of love. Love exists in more ways than things that can be summarized. Every experience of love is different, and love is always a different feeling for anyone. It is not going to be the same thing and shouldn't be called the same thing.