Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 (( If you have an idea of a card that has [u]rules[/u] based [u]specifically because of its existence[/u], or a card that breaks the rules of the game with its effect, please suggest them )) [img]http://i48.tinypic.com/2eq7z84.jpg[/img] Severely low in power and with a cost so steep that the only time it will ever see play is as a joke in Empty Jar. Quite personally, I feel this card could have been perfectly fine printed with no cost at the time of its creation, though now empty jar would get too much of a boost in my opinion. As any experienced YGO player might know, when a monster is face-down, it's supposed to be in defense position. Every single card that puts a monster face-down specifies this, and it's in the rules. The same goes for if a face-down monster's position is changed, it will move to face-up attack position, not stay face-down. However, Approaching Darkness gave itself an exception. Face-down monsters can now be in attack position, though only by this card's effect. Which means when they are flipped face-up by an attack, they use their ATK value, not their DEF, and they can destroy the opponent's monster. When its battle position is changed, it also stays face-down instead of flipping, though then if its position is changed again it will be flipped face-up. In summary, this card says "Screw the rules! I am the night!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 I always wondered about switching it to defense, but can it be flip summoned? Card is weird, but more "Flip into Face-down attack" cards would be cool combined with a shifting shadow-like card (That let face-down attack position mosnters also change) to make people confused :U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 If it is in face-down Attack position, its position cannot be changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1355100685' post='6089488'] If it is in face-down Attack position, its position cannot be changed. [/quote] So the card is officially like a Spellbinding Circle? If so, I facepalm at not using it back when it was newly printed. Everyone always had 4+ cards in hand and could hardly go lower than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 [quote name='Sleepy' timestamp='1355106170' post='6089534'] So the card is officially like a Spellbinding Circle? [/quote]And a Fiendish Chain. And it doesn't stay on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted December 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1355100685' post='6089488'] If it is in face-down Attack position, its position cannot be changed. [/quote] [b][url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:No_Entry%21%21"]"No Entry!![/url][/b]: Monsters in [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Face-down"]face-down[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Attack_Position"]Attack Position[/url] as a result of "[url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Darkness_Approaches"]Darkness Approaches[/url]" will be shifted into [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Face-down"]face-down[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Defense_Position"]Defense Position[/url] with the effect of "[url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/No_Entry%21%21"]No Entry!![/url]”" Unless you meant manually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 [quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1355106505' post='6089539'] Unless you meant manually. [/quote]I meant manually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrderOfTheStone Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Official ruling says you can make it face-up attack or face-down defense when changing the position manually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Man, wouldn't it be nice if Konami made a whole archetype based on flipping to Face Down attack position? They made Flip Effects Great again (dolls), they made Rituals great again (Nekroz) they made funking Unions Great again (ABC) Please do this Konami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Man, wouldn't it be nice if Konami made a whole archetype based on flipping to Face Down attack position? They made Flip Effects Great again (dolls), they made Rituals great again (Nekroz) they made f***ing Unions Great again (ABC) Please do this Konami Wasn't there an anime only archtype that did that? Also as sad as it is to say, when was the last time Konami listened to their fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Wasn't there an anime only archtype that did that? Also as sad as it is to say, when was the last time Konami listened to their fans?TCG? Never OCG? About every other day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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