Yuni Katt Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 This Looks like it could be one of the best movies this year at least to me. When i first saw the Commercial i knew i had to see it but i haven't seen it yet but planning on this weekend. Discuss this Movie [img]http://usdailyreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Red-Dawn-poster.jpeg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gαr Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Greatest movie ever. Of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 What a pointless waste of my time this movie was. The acting was over-the-top, the directing was atrocious and the plot was convoluted as hell. As a fan of the original Red Dawn I am insulted by this horrible re-adaptation. Although I will give it an "A" for effort, this movie had no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gαr Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 [quote name='Mr. A.' timestamp='1354065521' post='6079674'] What a pointless waste of my time this movie was. The acting was over-the-top, the directing was atrocious and the plot was convoluted as hell. As a fan of the original Red Dawn I am insulted by this horrible re-adaptation. Although I will give it an "A" for effort, this movie had no redeeming qualities whatsoever. [/quote] At least it suits the needs for the average movie-goer. Remember, Americans only want big things and explosions like little children. And remakes don't always stack up to the originals . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 [quote name='RestLess AC' timestamp='1354065902' post='6079679'] At least it suits the needs for the average movie-goer. Remember, Americans only want big things and explosions like little children. And remakes don't always stack up to the originals . [/quote] Remember, I love to critique movies and sometimes I just blatantly insult them if I find them terrible. I don't insult it saying that nobody will like I am saying I DIDN'T LIKE IT. As a film critic I cannot possibly find this film in any way good. It destroys the integrity of cinema with every second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gαr Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 [quote name='Mr. A.' timestamp='1354066107' post='6079681'] Remember, I love to critique movies and sometimes I just blatantly insult them if I find them terrible. I don't insult it saying that nobody will like I am saying I DIDN'T LIKE IT. As a film critic I cannot possibly find this film in any way good. It destroys the integrity of cinema with every second. [/quote] I'll take that. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I found it rather entertaining, though I probably might have a slightly different opinion if I saw the original first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Metal Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 I though it was a really nice movie, especially the acting. I hated the ending though because it's the kind when suspense builds up, you want to know what happens next, then suddenly, the screen goes black and the credit shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 [quote name='RestLess AC' timestamp='1354066331' post='6079685'] I'll take that. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I found it rather entertaining, though I probably might have a slightly different opinion if I saw the original first. [/quote] The original was... Fantastic. Simply amazing and the director was world renowned. The man who directed the original Red Dawn had directed the Legendary film Apocalypse Now which won the Palme d'Or. The greatest award ever given to film. What really killed this movie was the fact that it was just unreal. North Korea invading America? Come on! Now originally the director had planned to have it be China instead of North Korea. However the movie studio was against this and chose to not enrage the Chinese with this movie. Had it have been China, this movie might have been about 5% better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 It's the Theater Thug! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 its a really gross modern yellow peril movie and blatantly race baiting. i for one cant believe it was even released without incident. just ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ｍｒ．Ｒｏｂｏｔ Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 [quote name='clairedestroyer' timestamp='1354072514' post='6079818'] its a really gross modern yellow peril movie and blatantly race baiting. i for one cant believe[b] it was even released without incident[/b]. just ugh. [/quote] Probably it was. The movie was canned for two years (or was it three) and after the rise of Thor's popularity, they finally released it for quick bucks. And the villains was supposed to be the Chinese I believe but since they were talking bout North Korean, I guess they changed that as well. Obviously it's supposed to be bad since whoever made it just blandly reedit this movie like it was nothing. Watched the original a couple of times, never really grew attach to it and thought a remake/reboot would be cool if it was made properly but obviously this movie is just atrocious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Unclean One: VK Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 N.Korea.....f***ing REALLY? THE ONLY THING THEY HAVE SCARY IS THEIR SUPPOSED NUKES AND MISSILES. NOTHING f***ing MORE. This is an insult to the original Red Dawn which I f***ing loved. I f***ing loved that movie and it's enshrined in my movie collection for the next generation to gaze upon and realize that it's superior to this filth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gαr Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 [quote name='Gue'O VK' timestamp='1354139487' post='6080428'] N.Korea.....f***ing REALLY? THE ONLY THING THEY HAVE SCARY IS THEIR SUPPOSED NUKES AND MISSILES. NOTHING f***ing MORE. This is an insult to the original Red Dawn which I f***ing loved. I f***ing loved that movie and it's enshrined in my movie collection for the next generation to gaze upon and realize that it's superior to this filth. [/quote] Do you think the original would be possible in modern times? N. Korea is kinda the only possible country that won't do anything to us for something like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Unclean One: VK Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 You clearly forgot countries in the Middle East. Those forces can hurt us badly in more then one ways. I'm more afraid of them instead of North Korea. Of course they're too embroiled in their wars against each other so I shouldn't really be worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gαr Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 I didn't mention them because of the tension between us. I just assumed that something like this would spark something. True that they have forces that can hurt us, but our anger would flare much worse than it would with N. Korea. And we do have some technology that is designed to withstand whatever N. Korea used on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 [quote name='RestLess AC' timestamp='1354065902' post='6079679']At least it suits the needs for the average movie-goer. Remember, Americans only want big things and explosions like little children. And remakes don't always stack up to the originals . [/quote] The Amazing Spider-Man. [i]And yes, that includes the crane scene.[/i] [quote name='Mr. A.' timestamp='1354066107' post='6079681'] Remember, I love to critique movies and sometimes I just blatantly insult them if I find them terrible. I don't insult it saying that nobody will like I am saying I DIDN'T LIKE IT. As a film critic I cannot possibly find this film in any way good. It destroys the integrity of cinema with every second. [/quote] I've made my counterargument to that quite clear. Then again, it's not like I'm in any place to judge, since I consider my status as a film critic as mere pretentiousness. I for one was ambivalent to this film when I first heard of it, and I still am. I believe the first thing I learned about this was that Josh Peck would be fighting communists in a remake of an old film or something like that. My friends are excited for this movie, but since I'm typically the most cynical one among us, I guess it shouldn't be a surprise that I don't share in their anticipation. Linkara and Iron Liz tore the trailer apart in their Skyfall Vlog, and I can understand their complaint that it makes no sense of North Korea to be able to take us over, and I find it a rather weak justification that they don't want to offend the Chinese. If they wanted to avoid that, then they could include scenes to show that kind Chinese people do exist, and not portray this kind character in an offensive way. Honestly, I'm quite shocked by the negative reception thus far. I guess it really was a good thing that I just didn't give a damn about seeing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 [quote name='Phantom Stranger' timestamp='1354109745' post='6080046'] Probably it was. The movie was canned for two years (or was it three) and after the rise of Thor's popularity, they finally released it for quick bucks. And the villains was supposed to be the Chinese I believe but since they were talking bout North Korean, I guess they changed that as well. Obviously it's supposed to be bad since whoever made it just blandly reedit this movie like it was nothing. Watched the original a couple of times, never really grew attach to it and thought a remake/reboot would be cool if it was made properly but obviously this movie is just atrocious. [/quote] by "without incident" i meant something more like a public outcry. people should be saying that its kind of a racist movie (because it is! it is very much a racist movie) and yet very few people mention it at all. the main complaint is "well it shouldnt be north korea" when imho the main complaint should be "lets have a movie that more honestly examines war from both sides instead of being 'AMERICA USA NUMBER 1! WEIRD FOREIGN GUYS BAD! AAAUUGHRRRRRGGGGGGHHH *60-80 minutes of gunfire and explosions*'" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 [quote name='clairedestroyer' timestamp='1354189109' post='6080841'] by "without incident" i meant something more like a public outcry. people should be saying that its kind of a racist movie (because it is! it is very much a racist movie) and yet very few people mention it at all. the main complaint is "well it shouldnt be north korea" when imho the main complaint should be "lets have a movie that more honestly examines war from both sides instead of being 'AMERICA USA NUMBER 1! WEIRD FOREIGN GUYS BAD! AAAUUGHRRRRRGGGGGGHHH *60-80 minutes of gunfire and explosions*'" [/quote] Unfortunately, I disagree with this. It is arguments like this that causes pressure groups to hinder art especially in Film. Red Dawn examines a more patriotic version this is true, however one should not dislike it based on it's views and more primarily on whether it was done right. Which it wasn't. An example of what I am talking about would be [i]The Birth of a Nation [/i]by D. W. Griffith. That movie was extremely racist and was instrumental in reviving the KKK in the 1920's. However, it is one of the best films in the past 100 years for it's landmark directing, excellent pace and (Surprisingly) good acting. Although we disagree with the views expressed, we should never let it cloud our judgement on the art itself. To destroy the freedom of expression in art is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Well then, I am about to prove just how terrible I am. I hate Life is Beautiful. Good Bye, Lenin! essentially shares the very basic core idea, that being of someone trying to hide the truth of how terrible Germany is to a beloved family member. Interestingly enough, I watched both films in my German class, although I'll admit to a small bias towards Good Bye, Lenin! due to recognizing Daniel Brühl from Inglorious Basterds. I watched some of The Birth of a Nation in high school as well, and I will say that I'm interested in seeing the rest of it. The infamous ending to End of Evangelion contains a scene that anyway familiar with the series should be aware of. The director was dealing with depression at the time, and that is a sympathetic situation. Alas, what happened in the scene did not allow me to believe that his depression was a valid excuse for the story he designed. I admit to not being that much of an Evangelion fine to begin with, but the movie makes me feel that I shouldn't become one because any fondness I could grow for the preceding events in the story would be all for naught. Hideaki Anno used his film to lash out at his audiences, doing to his fans what George Lucas did to those of Star Wars, although at least Anno [i]needed[/i] to fix his story. Perhaps I'm simply narrow-minded and just can't appreciate this stuff like I should, but to me you must not sacrifice the importance of your story for the sake of expressing an idea. Being able to convey that idea [i]because[/i] of what the story accomplishes is the mark of someone who knows what they're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 [quote name='Phantom Roxas' timestamp='1354227837' post='6081178'] Well then, I am about to prove just how terrible I am. I hate Life is Beautiful. Good Bye, Lenin! essentially shares the very basic core idea, that being of someone trying to hide the truth of how terrible Germany is to a beloved family member. Interestingly enough, I watched both films in my German class, although I'll admit to a small bias towards Good Bye, Lenin! due to recognizing Daniel Brühl from Inglorious Basterds. I watched some of The Birth of a Nation in high school as well, and I will say that I'm interested in seeing the rest of it. The infamous ending to End of Evangelion contains a scene that anyway familiar with the series should be aware of. The director was dealing with depression at the time, and that is a sympathetic situation. Alas, what happened in the scene did not allow me to believe that his depression was a valid excuse for the story he designed. I admit to not being that much of an Evangelion fine to begin with, but the movie makes me feel that I shouldn't become one because any fondness I could grow for the preceding events in the story would be all for naught. Hideaki Anno used his film to lash out at his audiences, doing to his fans what George Lucas did to those of Star Wars, although at least Anno [i]needed[/i] to fix his story. Perhaps I'm simply narrow-minded and just can't appreciate this stuff like I should, but to me you must not sacrifice the importance of your story for the sake of expressing an idea. Being able to convey that idea [i]because[/i] of what the story accomplishes is the mark of someone who knows what they're doing. [/quote] Well I don't think you know what I was saying. The main idea is if it is logically good, no matter the views, the views should be disregarded. You didn't like the infamous episode in EOE? Then it sucked. Get my picture? People do stupid things when it comes to views but if a crazy neo-nazi comes up with an Anti-Semitic story in a film he directs and the film does everything right, I will disregard it's views and give the movie a positive review. However if it sucks then I will do the opposite. I feel that belief in film takes no precedence over acting, pace, story, and scenery etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thar Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 >Josh Peck >Josh Hutcherson Meh. Maybe if my sisters bring a rental home, I might stick around to watch it with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 [quote name='Stone Cold Loki' timestamp='1354231854' post='6081253'] >Josh Peck >Josh Hutcherson Meh. Maybe if my sisters bring a rental home, I might stick around to watch it with them. [/quote] You would think that those two would have performed well together. I thought they would but they overacted so bad it was frankly disappointing. There were moments in which I though Josh Peck was trying to be the Terminator and where Chris Hemsworth took his "Former military personnel with experience" role a bit too seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 [quote name='Mr. A.' timestamp='1354231727' post='6081249'] Well I don't think you know what I was saying. The main idea is if it is logically good, no matter the views, the views should be disregarded. You didn't like the infamous episode in EOE? Then it sucked. Get my picture? People do stupid things when it comes to views but if a crazy neo-nazi comes up with an Anti-Semitic story in a film he directs and the film does everything right, I will disregard it's views and give the movie a positive review. However if it sucks then I will do the opposite. I feel that belief in film takes no precedence over acting, pace, story, and scenery etc. [/quote] I thought you were just saying I should care about the message. But yeah, I agree that those elements are the most important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 [quote name='Phantom Roxas' timestamp='1354254030' post='6081463'] I thought you were just saying I should care about the message. But yeah, I agree that those elements are the most important. [/quote] Other than me you are my favorite reviewer of film Mr. Roxas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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