Tama vs newhat START VOTING

[Northern Sage]

First to 3 votes win or highest amount of votes that we can reach.
Winner gets 2 reps from the loser.
Make an Xyz Monster with a unique effect and a Trap Card that goes with it. Not necessarily reliant on each other.
PM me the cards and I'll put them up myself.

newhat's entries:
[img]http://yugico.com/customcard/138886.jpg[/img]
[quote]1 Level 11 monster
Cannot be Special Summoned from the Graveyard. All face-up non-Xyz monsters become Level 11. During your Standby Phase, if a player did not Xyz Summon a "Seccom Masada" since your last Standby Phase: Detach 1 Xyz Material from this card or destroy it.[/quote]
[img]http://yugico.com/customcard/139275.jpg[/img]
[quote]If you control an Xyz Monster: Target 1 monster your opponent controls with Level equal to the Xyz Monster's Rank; take control of it until the End Phase. You can pay 1500 Life Points and banish this card from your Graveyard; Xyz Summon 1 Xyz Monster. (Attach the appropriate Xyz Materials you control to that monster.)[/quote]
Tama's entries:
[img]http://yugico.com/customcard/125450.jpg[/img]
[quote]2 Level 4 monsters
When this card is Xyz Summoned: Place the top card of your deck on the field; It is treated as an Effect Monster (Plant-type/EARTH/Level 4/ATK 0/DEF 1800). If this card is removed from the field: Destroy that card. If that card is removed from the field: Destroy this card. Once per turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; Activate 1 of the following effects:
•Negate the Special Summon of a monster, then Special Summon 1 Treasure Token with the same stats as the monster.
•Target 1 monster on the field; It gains ATK equal to half the ATK of the detached monster.[/quote]
[img]http://yugico.com/customcard/138734.jpg[/img]
[quote]Target 1 placed card on the field; As long as it is face-up on the field, neither player can Special Summon monsters.[/quote]
GOGOGO

[newhat]

Sure, I'll join. Posted anonymously?

[Northern Sage]

[quote name='newhat' timestamp='1353198545' post='6072198']
Sure, I'll join. Posted anonymously?
[/quote]
That would be the general purpose of the fourth rule, yes.

[newhat]

A moment.

[Northern Sage]

Updated OP, start voting now!

[Northern Sage]

Come on, a vote would be appreciated.

[.Exa]

A vote for newhat.
Xyz monster was awesome, but the Trap was weird.
For Tama's, I recall seeing the Xyz somewhere before, and the Trap is just meh.

So yeah, newhat.

[Northern Sage]

1-0

[Nathanael D. Striker]

Both of you guys have a card that's meh. Tama, your Trap is meh. Newhat, your Xyz is meh. Reason being, Tama's is at the mercy of S/T hate and newhat's needs a monster with a Level that is unlikely to be Summoned. With that out of the way, newhat gets my vote because his Trap is more useful than Tama's Xyz, but not by much.

[Northern Sage]

2-0

[Sora1499]

Vote goes to tama. If I have a level 11 monster on the field, why haven't I won game?

[Northern Sage]

2-1

[Catterjune]

Here's a list of all Level 11 monsters:

- Gate Guardian
- Genesis Star God, Sophia
- Hyper Psychic Blaster/Assault Mode
- Yubel - Terror Incarnate

So Seccom Masada will just about never hit the field.

So it's effect. Basically it turns all your monster into easy Seccom Masada bait, but... what's the point? Having a bunch of 2500 defense monsters on the field isn't gonna win the duel.

So then the next card, which I assume would help.

So basically, it's a two card Change of Heart/Brain Control. That part's not bad, but I wouldn't use it with he-who-can-not-be-summoned. It's alright I guess.

I'm not understanding the second effect. Pay 1500 to Xyz summon a monster and attach the appropriate material. Why would you do that? Why wouldn't you just Xyz summon regularly, and avoid the 1500 toll? Just seems dumb.

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Place the top card onto the field sounds silly and unspecific. Am I placing it face up or face down? When it's treated as an Effect Monster, is it treated as face up or face down?

If the card is LaDD and (since the card is being destroyed) does that mean I get a field nuke and a free Special Summon? If it's a spell or trap, does that mean it can be destroyed by MST?

Esoteric bird cage. One "placed" card on the field? What the hell does that mean? What happenns when the card is no longer "placed" face-up on the field? Does the card stay until the Placed Card returns (Monster Reborn, Pot of Avarice) or until it's face up again (Book of Moon on your opponent's turn. Flip summon on yours.)



Seccom Masada: Stupid
Xyz Resonance: Okay/Bland
Lord Chamberlain Lily: Doin' it wrong
Esoteric Bird Cage: Doin' it wrong

Gonna give it to newhat. Even though his cards suck, at least they're not incorrect.

[Northern Sage]

3-1, thanks for voting everyone.

[newhat]

Coo'.

The point of "Xyz Summon 1 Xyz Monster" is that you can do it on your opponent's turn. Like, say you stole a monster somehow, and for some reason you don't need another monster for an Xyz Summon.