✪RION Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 [color=#800080][b]Pretty much what the title says.[/b][/color] [color=#800080][b]Mine would be Giratina and the worst would probably go to Heatran.[/b][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 I sincerely hope you're talking about design. To me, going by usability in the metagame, best would probably be Lugia and worst would be Entei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloister Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 Best, Lugia or Mewtwo, worst, all Legendary from generation 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 Rather than Lugia as best and Entei as worst as seen in her answer above.... Kyogre/Arceus are probably the best. Arceus can set up a Swords Dance or two then spam Extremespeed where nothing but a dedicated wall resisting it or a ghost type will be able to take it. A wall probably couldn't take another Extremespeed, anyway. Regigigas is absolutely terrible. You can run gimmicky Substitute sets, but it's not going to last very long if your opponent sees what you're trying to do, and even spamming Substitute with Leftovers wouldn't keep it too alive if the opponent has anything that can do damage like Salamence/Terrakion/Garchomp/Gyarados and even Deoxys-D, in my case. If you'd rather stay true to tiers, I'd like to see a near-dead Regigigas take Drain Punch from Gurdurr after a few Substitutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRenji Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 I say Kyogre is best, due to Drizzle, Water Spout, Thunder, and godly Special Stats. Worst I would say... Phione? Just, just kinda mehish stats all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 Jirachi is the most awesome. Arceus is probably the strongest, Black Kyurem was a letdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 Best - Mewtwo Worst - Arceus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 These are the best and worst from Generation 4 IMO and only the ones I owned. Best - Giratina Origin Forme (Because Pokemon Platinum was the first game that I bought myself). Worst- Heatran. Best Looking - Shaymin Sky Forme is cool, but I guess Giratina Origin Forme. Worst Looking - Dialga, wtf is up with that thing out of its head. In battling, idk which ones are good I never really focused on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ｍｒ．Ｒｏｂｏｔ Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 Best-Kyogre, Lugia, Mewtwo, Giratina and maybe Deoxys. Worst- The Legendary beast, Regigigas, Heatran and maybe the lake trio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Grunt Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 [quote name='Comrade TentaSparkle' timestamp='1353215019' post='6072341'] Best - Mewtwo Worst - Arceus [/quote] Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 Please don't just quote another member without adding anything to what was already said. For me artwise I'd take Giratina Origin Forme as best and as worst probably the Musketeers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilenceinDreams Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 [quote name='Cloister' timestamp='1353168036' post='6071805'] Best, Lugia or Mewtwo, worst, all Legendary from generation 5. [/quote] All the way, mass support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thar Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 Best: Lugia Worst: Groudon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 Best: Mewtwo/Lugia Worst: The Musketeers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 You really ought to wonder how Groudon is the only Hoenn legendary to not have starred in a movie. Best: Darkrai, closely followed by Giratina. Worst: ARCEUS. A. freaking. goat. with. a. bad. movie, uninteresting design… Bleh. Kyurem would also like to burn all Gen 5 haters to a crisp. Or freeze them to a popsicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilenceinDreams Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 [quote name='Tama the Chibi Sage' timestamp='1353456243' post='6074402'] You really ought to wonder how Groudon is the only Hoenn legendary to not have starred in a movie [/quote] Well technically Groundon wasn't in a movie. Although a giant evil clone of Groudon that came from his DNA was in a movie so you can kinda say that it was. Edit: Now Kyogre is one that I don't believe has been in a movie. Correct me if I'm wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRenji Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 [quote name='SilenceinDreams' timestamp='1353459485' post='6074442'] Well technically Groundon wasn't in a movie. Although a giant evil clone of Groudon that came from his DNA was in a movie so you can kinda say that it was. Edit: Now Kyogre is one that I don't believe has been in a movie. Correct me if I'm wrong [/quote] Kyogre was in the Manaphy movie, rite? And Groudon was in a movie in the same way Entei was in one, that being: Kinda sorta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forums and Card Games Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Best : Mewtwo Worse: All of the new ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
✪RION Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 [quote name='Caeda' timestamp='1353162736' post='6071765'] I sincerely hope you're talking about design. To me, going by usability in the metagame, best would probably be Lugia and worst would be Entei. [/quote] [color=#800080][b]Yup. But Entei still has it's speed going up for him and Heatran's weak against Earthquake, nuff said.[/b][/color] [quote name='Renji' timestamp='1353464659' post='6074488'] Kyogre was in the Manaphy movie, rite? And Groudon was in a movie in the same way Entei was in one, that being: Kinda sorta. [/quote] [color=#800080][b]Forgot that Entei in the movie was a fake one. The only legendary pokemon that was robbed of a movie is Ho-Oh.[/b][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilenceinDreams Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 [quote name='Hardcore Punk' timestamp='1353471879' post='6074586'] [color=#800080][b]Forgot that Entei in the movie was a fake one. The only legendary pokemon that was robbed of a movie is Ho-Oh.[/b][/color] [/quote] I think ur right. And is Entei even a real pokemon, cause if u remember, he was originally a figment of the little girls imagination that took form a fathering pokemon created by the unknown. **In the movie pokemon 2000 Edit: ** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
✪RION Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 [quote name='SilenceinDreams' timestamp='1353473147' post='6074612'] I think ur right. And is Entei even a real pokemon, cause if u remember, he was originally a figment of the little girls imagination that took form a fathering pokemon created by the unknown. **In the movie pokemon 2000 Edit: ** [/quote] [color=#800080][b]The real one made an appearance in Episode 259.[/b][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 [quote name='Hardcore Punk' timestamp='1353471879' post='6074586'] [color=#800080][b]Yup. But Entei still has it's speed going up for him and Heatran's weak against Earthquake, nuff said.[/b][/color] [/quote] I guess that x4 weakness to Ice makes Garchomp, Dragonite, and Salamance bad. I guess a x4 weakness to Rock makes Volcarona bad. Both of these are common attacking types, just like Earthquake. All of those see play in OU. Entei also has to rely on Physical Fire attacks, which isn't good half the time, and it's not exactly the most bulky thing ever. It's outclassed by any of the other Legendary Beasts and /Arcanine/. The fact that if you want to use it's Event Moves, which make it what it is for the most part, you HAVE to use an Adamant Nature isn't exactly good either. Heatran is amazing. The Ground Weakness is what you use the Air Balloon for, or you just don't send it out against that particular pokemon. It has Lava Plume, which is a great move, it can set up Stealth Rock or act as a Phazer, it comes with Toxic and Protect so it can even attempt to Toxic Stall. It also has an offensive set, but I prefer Specially Defensive Heatran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larxene Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Best: Motherfuckin' [i][b]Arceus[/b][/i]. He's the god damn GOD of Pokemon. He takes s*** from no one. Just don't throw a Master Ball at him. It's his only weakness. Worst: Keldeo. What is this fuckin' My Little Pony bullshit doing in my god damn Pokemon game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ListenToLife Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 [u]Usability[/u] Best: Probably Kyogre. The Drizzle gives it an immediate boost to its STAB moves, and it can learn Thunder, meaning its got a 100% hit rate, 120 base damage move already. Worst: Entei is pretty much useless, and Phione is a crappier Manaphy, but Regigigas has to take this. Unless you're doing Tag with something like Worry Seed, it's gonna take too long to do anything good. [u]Appearance/Design[/u] Best: I honestly love Suicune, mainly because Crystal was my first Pokémon game. However, Lugia does come a close second. Worst: Keldeo or Phione, for being too loveydoveycutesycrappy. Also, while Normal Kyurem doesn't look too bad, the White/Black Kyurems are appalling to me. [u]Personal Bias[/u] Best: The Gen 2/Johto Legendaries. Because of that series being my first set of games. And I find them awesome. Worst: Gen 5, because I'm not a massive fan of the new series. Not a Gen 5 hater; just not a massive fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 My personal favorite has always been Lugia. So you can understand how I flipped when I saw Pokemon XD come out. Kyogre and Mewtwo are close seconds though. Kyogre was also the first Pokemon I ever raised to Level 100, so I have special sentiment towards it. Worst, probably Phione. Don't even get why it was made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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