Mehmani Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 I thought that this topic was an interesting one, given the thread in Comments & Suggestions and whatnot. So, the basic idea is this - if the community doesn't like someone, we ban them. I'm not advocating this idea - in fact, I think it's cruel and disgusting, but nevertheless, what is your opinion on the matter? Do you think it's a good idea? Let's get a nice debate rolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Completely agree. I think it's an absolutely terrible idea. Even if certain people don't like a member, it doesn't mean the member shouldn't be allowed to be a part of the (huge) community. I'm aware it's not like "civil rights" or whatever, it's an internet forum, but basic decency should apply. Members that might start off shitty can turn themselves around, but they don't get that opportunity if the members ban them before they even get to learn the 'rules of the road'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Unethical. Last I checked, being widely disliked is not a crime in a civilized society. Forum-wise, people should be given the chance to improve and to develop into a "civilized" member, no matter how slow a process it is. Not everybody learns at the same speed as others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Unclean One: VK Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 So... We form a mob where we cyberly lynch someone? Yeah sounds like a dumb idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 There's a reason the ignore button exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Eh, I still remember the days when people wanted to run me out of town. I agree that banning hated members is wrong as it doesn't give them a chance to improve. I admit that I took forever to learn my lesson, but I eventually did. Like others have said, people learn at a different pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limited Edition KING Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Great, bring bullying into a children's card game forum. Terrible idea, some people actually use this site as a place to escape from all that bullcrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Is it bad that I actually like this idea? Thing is, in most cases at least, if the [i]entire[/i] community hates them, they probably deserve to get banned anyway. Not that you can get the entire community to hate someone anyway, since most of YCM is split into sub-communities anyway (Created cards, TCG, general, C&O/Games spammers), so it depends on how you use "whole community". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Last I checked, we don't throw people in prison because we simply "don't like them". We either argue with them, or ignore them. Don't see why it should be different on a forum CREATED FOR A KID'S CARD GAME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloister Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 It has happened, and it's stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Real life is not equatable to the internet. Not to mention, a forum may decide how it wishes to judge and punish people. If the hierarchy wishes to remove people that are widely hated, then it is their choice to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1352902836' post='6069268'] Real life is not equatable to the internet. Not to mention, a forum may decide how it wishes to judge and punish people. If the hierarchy wishes to remove people that are widely hated, then it is their choice to do so. [/quote] As many times as I have ran into people that I absolutely despised, I still disagree with this idea. Just because it's the internet doesn't mean we can't be civilized people. By resorting to these measures, are you really any better than the people you are wishing to "ban"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 For the record, I don't actually agree with it either, even if I do kinda like the idea. I was just justifying how one could consider it a fine thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 SPOILER ALERT: Mik's actually talking about something to make a cheap political point, except he makes one erroneous statement: [quote name='Mihails Tāls' timestamp='1352852330' post='6068727'] So, the basic idea is this - if the community doesn't like someone, we ban them. [/quote] That's not at all what the mods are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Terrible idea. People should only be banned because they break the rules, not because people don't like them. Although people have been banned for being unpopular in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Well, it hasn't actually happened once yet, so if we can prevent it, who cares? Only noticeable example is Garth, but I assume his ban was justified with AC breaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 I don't like the idea and find it can be unreliable how somebody else in the forum thought of it, where even if one person liked the person they wouldn't be eliminated. Assuming that was the point, I'd like them just because everybody else disliked them to show how anybody apathetic can behave capriciously and change the outcome of the method. Somebody should be banned for something that breaks the rules, which are inherently legislated norms, anyway, and that's why they shouldn't be banned for being disliked. There are already "laws" based off actions people don't appreciate, so banning them for not following a standard is just tightening what there already is. lve u alfred <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 I completely agree with this idea at a basic level, but there are so many ways it could realistically go wrong that I wouldn't want it enacted I don't think that rules should ever protect someone from making an experience unenjoyable for a lot of others, be it a game, forum, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 How does the community judge how they are not "liked"? Unappreciated? Forgotten? Unethical? Boorish? Ignorant? Lonely? And for the whole community to discuss, it would have to be a serious matter to ban this person. I'd just say to ban that person if they've passed the line and we all move on and ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 Wait, let me find something that perfectly demonstrates this...something I remember... http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/2950-A-Message-to-Mike1984-from-the-Mod-Team There we go. You may like to read it all, but that would be impossible without dedicating your whole day. Tons of walls of text in there, on almost ever page (the first post cracks it down, but you may want to skip to P5 to understand everything) A completely serious, massive (from a limited group of members) discussion about ONE USER. That's the logical extreme to this concept not being handed out quickly enough. Mike1894 himself was under the impression that he had changed, and he keeps promising to change while at the same time being pretty pissed about it all. Ultimately, despite even being given special privileges, it took him quite a while to 'change'. He doesn't even truly recognize it himself. A massive, even colossal debate revolving around Mike1894. One user. To be banned or not to be banned. Ultimately, and apparently, he wasn't banned but...still, he had years to change, but he didn't, even after being asked to. That's because he can't truly recognize his flaws even when they're shoved in his face, so he didn't change what he s supposed to, because he wasn't aware of it. Whatever result came out of that thread...that's my answer to this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 Should we ban people just because no one likes them: of course not Will the people that get banned most of the time be people that were disliked: most likely seeing as how the dislike would come from that person's negative behaivor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 I know if this was sound I would be one of the first to go. I think if this were to take effect these would be the top three people banned... 1. Garthfunkle 2. Me 3. Desu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 [quote name='Mr. A.' timestamp='1353198815' post='6072205'] I know if this was sound I would be one of the first to go. I think if this were to take effect these would be the top three people banned... 1. Garthfunkle 2. Me 3. Desu [/quote] I thought Garthfunkle was banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 [quote name='Flame Dragon' timestamp='1353199930' post='6072209'] I thought Garthfunkle was banned. [/quote] Uhh... I probably shouldn't say this but uh... [spoiler=Uhh...] YES! THANK YOU AND EVERYONE WHO FREAKING MADE THIS HAPPEN! YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES![/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1352902836' post='6069268'] Real life is not equatable to the internet. [/quote] Suggesting that the Internet is seperate from "real life" is "equatable" to batshit lunacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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