Take that, feds! owait.

[Gospel.]

I haven't seen any topics on this so...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49722911/ns/health-health_care/t/colorado-washington-first-states-legalize-recreational-pot/

Basically Colorado and Washington state are the first States of the U.S to legalize the recreational use, cultivation and possession of marijuana (must be over 21, and limit of no more than an ounce.)

NBC seemed fitting.

What are some of your opinions on the topic?

[Nathanael D. Striker]

The approve of this because marijuana legalization brings needed revenue for the economy. Ironically, I live in Oregon, which rejected our proposed measure due to lack of restrictions, and I'm 17. I knew this was going to happen when people started approving medical marijuana.

[Gospel.]

[quote name='Nathanael Darius Striker' timestamp='1352675389' post='6066944']
The approve of this because marijuana legalization brings needed revenue for the economy. Ironically, I live in Oregon, which rejected our proposed measure due to lack of restrictions, and I'm 17. I knew this was going to happen when people started approving medical marijuana.
[/quote]Yeah unfortunately I live in Texas, but more ironic (and I may be wrong) I heard that the majority of the tax revenue from distribution is being utilized to fund and build schools, which I found hilarious.

[Nathanael D. Striker]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Initiative_502

Something on Washington's marijuana initiative. Primarily it helps Healthcare and substance-abuse prevention and education.

[Flame Dragon]

Yea, it is still illegal in those states cause its illegal on a federal level. Should be interesting seeing what happens.

[Fusion X. Denver]

Marijuana should be legalized.
-It's a lot less harmful than cigarettes.
-Like Striker said, it'd benefit the economy.
-A better method for stress reduction than cigarettes (though there exist several options that are better than both)
-It'll stop federal funding for holding prisoners busted for marijuana usage/possession
-And it'll stop from turning those arrested kids or normal people into hardened criminals
-Not as valid, but lots more creativity would probably emerge from authors and TV writers

But overall, I don't see the point in making marijuana illegal when everyone indulges in cigarettes and alcohol.

[Darth Revan of the Sith]

I love seeing how confused people get at the fact Marijuana is illegal. Money talks in congress people.

The only reason Democrats are against the legalization of Marijuana is because cigarette companies pour money into the Obama Administration to make it illegal so they don't lose revenue. Oil companies do the same thing to the Republican Party so they don't lose revenue against Natural Gas.

I hear from so many people that say "How can the government logically ban Marijuana man?" MONEY!!!

Unless you get Cigarette companies to shut up, the Federal Government will not release it's stranglehold on Marijuana.

And the biggest reason why Obama hasn't spoken publicly about these recent developments is because he has already been hammered by Biden on the issue. Joe Biden has said before that he supports the legalization of Marijuana. And Biden has already gone into conflict with Obama when he disagreed with Obama's support of SOPA, PIPA, and ACTA. Biden is also an advocate for internet rights. This will be the second time the Vice Pres. and the Pres. will get into conflict. AGAIN!

[Nathanael D. Striker]

The feds claim marijuana is a gateway drug, but how can a gateway drug be higher up on the ties while the drugs it "acts as a gateway" to are lower on the same list in spite of them being more dangerous than marijuana? It doesn't make sense.

[Flame Dragon]

[quote name='Fusion X. Denver' timestamp='1352685192' post='6067098']
-It's a lot less harmful than cigarettes.
[/quote]
I've heard from both sides that cigarettes are both worse and better for you than marjiuana so I'm not 100% sold on it.

[quote name='Mr. A.' timestamp='1352689499' post='6067161']
I love seeing how confused people get at the fact Marijuana is illegal. Money talks in congress people.

The only reason Democrats are against the legalization of Marijuana is because cigarette companies pour money into the Obama Administration to make it illegal so they don't lose revenue. Oil companies do the same thing to the Republican Party so they don't lose revenue against Natural Gas.

I hear from so many people that say "How can the government logically ban Marijuana man?" MONEY!!!

Unless you get Cigarette companies to shut up, the Federal Government will not release it's stranglehold on Marijuana.

And the biggest reason why Obama hasn't spoken publicly about these recent developments is because he has already been hammered by Biden on the issue. Joe Biden has said before that he supports the legalization of Marijuana. And Biden has already gone into conflict with Obama when he disagreed with Obama's support of SOPA, PIPA, and ACTA. Biden is also an advocate for internet rights. This will be the second time the Vice Pres. and the Pres. will get into conflict. AGAIN!
[/quote]
Is it safe to say I love Joe. I mean any man that is for internet rights is a good man in my book.

[Darth Revan of the Sith]

[quote name='Flame Dragon' timestamp='1352690113' post='6067170']
Is it safe to say I love Joe. I mean any man that is for internet rights is a good man in my book.
[/quote]
He got very pissed at Obama when it came to SOPA and PIPA. And he is a very smart man. I remember when he was on Bill Maher. He was a very underrated senator. However he has his flaws. I do disagree with his advocation of Abstinence-Only Education.

[Flame Dragon]

[quote name='Mr. A.' timestamp='1352690329' post='6067175']
He got very pissed at Obama when it came to SOPA and PIPA. And he is a very smart man. I remember when he was on Bill Maher. He was a very underrated senator. However he has his flaws. I do disagree with his advocation of Abstinence-Only Education.
[/quote]
You take what you can get I guess. As you said no one is perfect.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

Biden's a genius. He came back and became VP after having plagiarzed speeches a couple decades back when he ran for pres. Oh, and Obama's done coke and smoked weed all day in his Hawaii crews. It's in his official biography, so lol at this.

[Darth Revan of the Sith]

[quote name='R a k i m' timestamp='1352692725' post='6067214']
Biden's a genius. He came back and became VP after having plagiarzed speeches a couple decades back when he ran for pres. Oh, and Obama's done coke and smoked weed all day in his Hawaii crews. It's in his official biography, so lol at this.
[/quote]
Obama did coke when he was a child. Not much to go on there buddy.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

He did coke in his late teens, if you wanna call that a child then go ahead, he was old enough to know that it was an extreme coping mechanism. That in of itself isn't a problem, the problem is that he's not letting me have any.

[Darth Revan of the Sith]

[quote name='R a k i m' timestamp='1352697757' post='6067275']
the problem is that he's being paid off by the cigarette companies
[/quote]
fixed

[Wizarus]

It won't last I know that much. The SC is going to strike it down.

[Nathanael D. Striker]

[quote name='Wizarus' timestamp='1352756075' post='6067669']
It won't last I know that much. The SC is going to strike it down.
[/quote]

You'd be surprised with how long it takes the Supreme Court to consider, or even get a case. This recent marijuana legalization will last a few years if the US government decides to oppose it.

[Tentacruel]

Regardless of whether pot is good or bad for you, the war on drugs is causing far more problems than it's fixing.

So yeah.

[Agro]

I think that marijuana and cigarettes should be banned >> Hell, I'm even against alcahol.

I don't care if it'll make money, I don't think it's worth the health of millions of people.

[Shradow]

The argument of saying pot is better for you than stuff like cigarettes or alcohol isn't really an argument for pot, but an argument against cigarettes and alcohol.

Problem is, I'm sure anyone who's cracked open a US history book knows about prohibition and how well [i]that [/i]worked out.

[Tentacruel]

Point is, it's not about whether or not it's good or bad for you, it's about ethics. Do we let the government control the lives of people?

One could argue that cinnabons are unhealthy (they are), and they should be illegal. Homosexuals are more at risk to certain STD's, should be criminalize that? No.

Plus, I'll state it again, the war on drugs causes a [b]lot [/b]of problems. Look it up.

[Exiro]

If you want to use it as an argument, at least articulate it yourself. This is the second time this thread you're evading that.

[Tentacruel]

[quote name='Exiro Divinus' timestamp='1352798262' post='6068108']
If you want to use it as an argument, at least articulate it yourself. This is the second time this thread you're evading that.
[/quote]

Can't really tell who/what you're responding to given you provided no quote but going by my assumptions...

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=war+on+drug+problems

[Flame Dragon]

[quote name='Shradow' timestamp='1352786510' post='6068063']
The argument of saying pot is better for you than stuff like cigarettes or alcohol isn't really an argument for pot, but an argument against cigarettes and alcohol.

Problem is, I'm sure anyone who's cracked open a US history book knows about prohibition and how well [i]that [/i]worked out.
[/quote]
http://www.cracked.com/article_20067_5-b.s.-political-arguments-you-hear-every-election-season_p2.html


I do agree with the first point though.

[Lt. Colonel Remo]

[quote name='Flame Dragon' timestamp='1352820237' post='6068216']
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Oh God was that beautiful to read

I personally am against alcohol and cigarettes.

But, not cigars. Cigars are too classy to be banned. Only them sissy cigarettes >.>