Legend Zero Posted October 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Maybe like 1,000 points? So people can't stock up on them so easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Yeah, being cheap sounds abusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 On the other hand, would you be able to lock someone else's topic? Sounds like it might be trouble as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 I'd add a larger Gif size for Avis...but that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Currently avatars are set as: 200 KB Width: 200 x Height: 300 I believe the highest you can set it as is 2M, but that may make some problems with your PMs and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted October 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Won't the change in height and width affect the page layout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 I dunno. Probably? He mostly means size, so he can have a long Gif Avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted October 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Can't you change just the file size? So like 100x100 and 200KB Edit: Actually, my avi is 28 KB. So maybe 100-150KB max? Longer they are could cause slow pages. Even more important if several members will have .gif avitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1351721100' post='6058270'] Edit: Actually, my avi is 22 KB. So maybe 100-150KB max? Longer they are could cause slow pages. Even more important if several members will have .gif avitars. [/quote] That's true. Just a higher size would be nice but not too high to cause page seizures. Or maybe as a shop feature where you have some "upkeep" type thing going on like [pay X points per *insert amount of time here*] If this "payment" is not kept up with, well, one loses the privilage until they are able to gain the privilege again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted October 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 [quote name='Chance Furlong' timestamp='1351721350' post='6058271'] That's true. Just a higher size would be nice but not too high to cause page seizures. Or maybe as a shop feature where you have some "upkeep" type thing going on like [pay X points per *insert amount of time here*] If this "payment" is not kept up with, well, one loses the privilage until they are able to gain the privilege again? [/quote] The way I think the shop works is, "you have X option, click on or off". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 My Legend Louise one is about 80-ish KB. It's already set at 200 KB. How much more do you need? if it's too big, maybe someone with photoshop could help make it smaller? Like in the Showcase forum or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury the year Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Obligatory "post so Hatcher doesn't have to double post" post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Because Hatcher doesn't wanna double post. EDIT: Damnit Rinne... LET'S DISCUSS NEG REPS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury the year Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 LET'S. I think we should keep positive reps and add negatives. They're currency for contests and ways to get idiots to wisen up respectively. (Could go both way, though, considering points can now do something again...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 I could get behind negs, but I suggest having to add a reason for it so the negged knows why they were negged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Five options for Reps are: Positive Reputation System Negative Reputation System Positive and Negative Reputation System Likes System (which is what we have now) No Reputation System I have no idea what the difference between Positive Reputation System and Like System are. So, those are your choices. Figure it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Moonflowyr Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Positive and Negative, derp. What about the old rep system where you went to the persons profile instead of the actual post, and decided ether Positive, Negative, or Neutral(dafuq was up with that anyhoo), and then gave a small reasoning for the reputation/neg. Is that no longer possible, or would it just be a pain in the ass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted October 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 I seem to be unable to find the giant thread for removing them. (unless I'm remembering something else) I at least think we should look at why people wanted them gone, before putting them back (because I personally don't care). Nothing to unreasonable...if I could only find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Here's three (5+ page) topics about neg reps: http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/258997-neg-reps/ http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/263489-neg-reps-50-supporters/ http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/270585-neg-reps/ Some topics may be unviewable if you're not a mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 [quote name='Hatcher' timestamp='1351724888' post='6058318'] [url="http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/270585-neg-reps/"]http://forum.yugiohc...70585-neg-reps/[/url] [/quote] The arguments that stood out to me. From Evilfusion. [i]Neg reps aren't good for anything. They draw more attention to bad behavior than the behavior deserves, making it something to aim for in some people's sad devotion of attention, positive or negative. And really, revenge reps can come into the picture and upset more people. Someone does something, you neg them, and they/their friends neg you in retaliation.[/i] [i]That's a terrible idea. It'd be so easy to bully someone by neg spamming them with impunity and for no clear reason. Negs aren't needed. People wanted them removed, and when they disappeared, then people started asking for them back. There never was a practical purpose for neg reps.[/i] [i]Now, it seems that I've always been like this with all forms of "negative feedback" that some sites have provided, but are easily abused (neg reps, DN's ASS feature). 1) Having them does not dissuade people from acting out. These are people who either are doing it deliberately for amusement, and may in fact get positive reps from people who found it amusing, or simply dont care about the number. 2) Having them (might) make intelligent, good members uncomfortable that someone will use them against them when they didn't deserve them. That doesn't dissuade the good members from acting appropriately and sharing their opinions and stuff, but with DN, at least, this was a major abuse problem. It also puts way too much emphasis on popularity. If you disagree with a popular member's opinion, you may find yourself getting a lot of backlack in the form of negs from people who don't like your opinion because it's not the same as "Popular Intelli-member". 3) I never liked USING them. There were plenty of posts I saw that I didn't like, whether they be trolly, spammy, or stupid. But giving a neg rep to those people is pointless. It doesn't change the fact they made such a post, and it has no power in correcting their behavior, plus trolls WANT this to happen to their posts. In fact, now that I'm a mod looking back, the concept of neg reps is mini-modding. You're expressing disapproval in the form of a penalty, but the penalty only means so much to certain people, and may be ineffective. It's like a parent grounding a child with a punishment that holds no sway on the child (like...no video games for a week, when they're an athletic person that loves playing outside with their friends. [i]I am aware this isn't realistic[/i]). The child walks away, smirking that the parent did effectively nothing to them. Then again, I'm also fairly tight with positive reps, too. I have never reached my daily quota for posi-reps, and a lot of "popular" posts are those with a "humorous" meme attached, rather than anything meaningful. While it can be effective, meme spamming is overdone and often badly, making it annoying. 4) So with neg reps and ASS before it was removed, I gave them out EXTREMELY RARELY, and only when the person truly, truly deserved it, and not just for one little thing that rubbed me the wrong way, but something very blatantly wrong. But even then, it's a bad concept for any internet community. Other people aren't so lenient and for those that rep means a lot to, this can turn hateful very quickly. This type of tension is not needed. Even as a mod, I don't give out warns just because someone made a dumb post. They have to be a repeat offender to warrant cracking down, because like with neg reps, sometimes it's an actual mistake to make a dumb post, and I've seen at least one member get chewed out practically to death for misreading a card during discussion, making a mistake, and then everyone else mocking and harping on him, even as he tried to explain he made a mistake. Which interestingly got the entire thread off-topic for about 2 pages... Anyway, neg reps still aren't practical as a punishment. Just because you dislike something someone said does not mean you should be able to punish the person at your own discretion. Counterarguments are better and improve the community and ideas of discusssion, and if someone gets trolly or spammy about it, either forget about them and ignore it, or report it and let mods see if there's a bigger issue that should be addressed.[/i] And Yin. [i]If you don't like what someone is doing report it's not complicated. We had a lot of issues with revenge negatives, then members complained to the mods about it, it doesn't need a rep for someone to tell a mod.[/i] And Welche. [i]Okay so when I originally suggested removing them the main argument I fought against was that they were needed to use against a post you disagree with. But why is that needed? Can you not simply respond to said post with your own opinion? It isn't that hard to just do that. The other main argument for negs was that they were to deal with spam. This is a terrible idea. We have a report button folks, use it (and on a side not, don't post that you used it). The only way I could see neg reps being implemented again is how they originally were. You neg rep a user and give a reason. The user can then see the reason and take it up with a mod, but even then that is adding a lot of responsibilities to mods meaning the section might fall into more chaos. So ya...[/i] [i]Stupidity is the lack of knowledge. Instead of making them feel bad about it, inform them.[/i] [i]If a person insists on disagreeing with you then they are of a different opinion. I do not see why that should tarnish their reputation.[/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted October 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Alright, so after reading those I've made my mind. I say if the negs do not come with the ability to give reasons for them, then they should not be returned. Otherwise, negs have three purposes. 1. To disagree with the post, which explaining your different viewpoint would be better 2. A type of mini-modding 3. Rep spam/trolling #1 is the only legit reason for them, but that only becomes useable when we need to give reasons for negs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 So Negs won't be making a return? kk We have a "Positive" system and "No Rep" still on the table, but again I don't really know what those do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 I think we should keep a rep system, but as Crouton gathered, neg reps usage is managed horribly by members. So I say either keep the current system, or go to the positive system... which I still don't know what that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 I like the rep system that we have right now. There's no reason for us to incorporate Neg Reps when it didn't work last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 This may just be my ADD talking, but it kind of bothers me that Creative Writing is under the Yu-Gi-Oh! banner. >_> I think it deserves its own section, and also maybe have RP as it's own section since it's so much more active then the main Creative Writing section usually is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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