Disney buys rights to Star Wars

[Ｍｒ．Ｒｏｂｏｔ]

Anyone that thinks Disney would tone Star Wars down, just stop it. Look at both The Pirates Of Caribbean and the Marvel movie franchise. While kids certainly can watch them, they're convoluted(TPOC franchise) and with war and alcohol being included(Iron Man movies), can't say that these movies are marked directly to the kids.

As for the movie, as long as it's not Lucas writing or writing it alone(4,5,6 was written by him and his ex wife) it'll be fine. I mean it can't be any worst that the prequels. The main problem of the prequels aren't really in the directing since it was shot beautifully, it's really on the writing department.

And since they went out on a limb to create the extended universe that's counted as "canon", let's try and not destroy that continuity.

[~NOiSE~]

There's a reason [i]The Empire Strikes Back[/i] was the best movie ..George Lucas didn't direct it and had less control over the movie than any of the other films in the series. I do like [i]Return of the Jedi[/i] better for the most part, but the ewoks...ugh.

Anyway, I think it'll be interesting to see how Disney approaches the new movies, but I don't think we have too much to worry about.

[ListenToLife]

George Lucas is still there as a Creative Consultant, so at least we'll stay canon.

[Thar]

I'm just gonna post this, cause it's relevant:

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[FTW (For The Wynn)]

[quote name='DaWeirdGuy' timestamp='1351800835' post='6058947']
George Lucas is still there as a Creative Consultant, so at least we'll stay canon.
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but it would seem that the current plan isn't going to base it off of the books. If this was said already, I apologize because I'm not going back to read everything.

[url="http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/10/31/star-wars-episode-vii-will-be-an-original-story"]http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/10/31/star-wars-episode-vii-will-be-an-original-story[/url]
[url="http://www.eonline.com/news/358685/star-wars-7-plot-will-be-an-original-story-says-lucasfilm-source"]http://www.eonline.com/news/358685/star-wars-7-plot-will-be-an-original-story-says-lucasfilm-source[/url]

Anyway, I have my doubts right now for 3 reasons that this will be good.

1. Disney's last foray into space (John Carter of Mars or whatever it was called) turned out abysmally. However, not many people today know of the John Carter series so it can be forgiven here or summarily dismissed perhaps.
2. These aren't based off of the books, so this will destroy the canon that exists, and basically restart the story from scratch. That could bring up issues with the creativity unless they already have a solid story. All I know of the plan thus far is that it will involve Luke Skywalker as a 30-40 yr old man (or so I've read).
3. My biggest concern is that the last 3 "episodes" (Movies 1-3) were not quite as good as those made in the 80s.

Basically, I just have some concerns. I could easily be wrong and these upcoming movies will be amazing.

[ListenToLife]

[quote name='GodWynn' timestamp='1351828940' post='6059188']
Sorry to burst your bubble, but it would seem that the current plan isn't going to base it off of the books. If this was said already, I apologize because I'm not going back to read everything.

[url="http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/10/31/star-wars-episode-vii-will-be-an-original-story"]http://www.ign.com/a...-original-story[/url]
[url="http://www.eonline.com/news/358685/star-wars-7-plot-will-be-an-original-story-says-lucasfilm-source"]http://www.eonline.c...ucasfilm-source[/url]

Anyway, I have my doubts right now for 3 reasons that this will be good.

1. Disney's last foray into space (John Carter of Mars or whatever it was called) turned out abysmally. However, not many people today know of the John Carter series so it can be forgiven here or summarily dismissed perhaps.
2. These aren't based off of the books, so this will destroy the canon that exists, and basically restart the story from scratch. That could bring up issues with the creativity unless they already have a solid story. All I know of the plan thus far is that it will involve Luke Skywalker as a 30-40 yr old man (or so I've read).
3. My biggest concern is that the last 3 "episodes" (Movies 1-3) were not quite as good as those made in the 80s.

Basically, I just have some concerns. I could easily be wrong and these upcoming movies will be amazing.
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I didn't mean Extended Universe Canon. That was never George Lucas Canon anyway.
The Luke Skywalker thing was Lucas' original Idea; he wanted the main character's from the original trilogy back as old people. But he had also planned on Leia not being Luke's Sister and Han dying in episode 6. He pretty much scrapped Vii-IX then.

And I dont get why everyone complains about 1-3. I personally liked them. Perhaps the story wasn't as good; but it wasn't meant to be. It's basically an extended prologue, and I liked the back story to it. I also liked the whole civilisation in it, and preferred the Jedi as a organisation than the scattered people in 4-6.
Also, the hate that they got is one of the reason's why Lucas totally stopped thinking about doing more. Something along the lines of "Why make something when they're just gonna complain?" (Not an actual quote, just the gist of it.)

[FTW (For The Wynn)]

I liked them well enough, but there were just certain things that could have been done so much better. (i.e. Jar Jar, Anakin's acting at times, etc.)

Well then, Idk what to say about what is canon now or not, because basically anything they write at this point would be canon. I think that this is Disney's hit or miss area, and that's my big concern. It will either be great, or it will be bad.

[Great Unclean One: VK]

I honestly think Disney could do better if they still have the guys from the 80's who made the original 3 movies and use them as consultants.

Though some of the fan ideas at the time was also much better then Lucas's, like how anyone with patience could learn to use the Force instead of lolbacteria.

Or like General Grievous was a war hero/ freedom fighter/ pawn opposed to Lucas's idea of him being a guy who tried to be a Jedi, was told no, and decided to replace his body with a droid.

Or how the Clone wars had clone armies of Jedis or Siths duking it out.

[Darth Revan of the Sith]

No matter what happens to Star Wars. I will always believe that The Phantom Menace was the best.

Sorry, 4-6 were great but... I just adore Number 1. It was the first time I ever saw Liam Neeson, my favorite actor.

[ListenToLife]

[quote name='Mr. A.' timestamp='1351890454' post='6059728']
No matter what happens to Star Wars. I will always believe that The Phantom Menace was the best.

Sorry, 4-6 were great but... I just adore Number 1. It was the first time I ever saw Liam Neeson, my favorite actor.
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I love it as well, and yet it seems to be the one that is least liked.

[Darth Revan of the Sith]

[quote name='DaWeirdGuy' timestamp='1351894730' post='6059781']
I love it as well, and yet it seems to be the one that is least liked.
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I disagree. I think Number 2 got the most backlash.

[Thar]

[quote name='Mr. A.' timestamp='1351890454' post='6059728']
Sorry, 4-6 were great but... I just adore Number 1. It was the first time I ever saw Liam Neeson, my favorite actor.
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The first time I saw him before I knew who he was.
And Darth Maul is my favorite villain.

[Dwarven King]

[quote name='Comrade TentaSparkle' timestamp='1351691414' post='6057933']
Are you guys actually giving this any thought?

The [i]Avengers[/i] is owned by Disney. That was good. They also own the rights to Pixar, and almost all of their movies are golden. Disney's own recent movies, like Tangled or whatever, have been pretty good.

They're not 4kids, and they can't ruin Star Wars more than it already has been.

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I agree with this man! Also, why the hate towards Episodes 1-3? I loved all six and look forward to Episode 7! =D

[quote name='Lil Wayne!' timestamp='1351739522' post='6058491']
Legend Zero: Okay, but it would be more becoming of someone in your position to explain why my post was so inappropriate in a forum serving the same demographics as popular media rife with similar diction and why the characteristics that made my post so inappropriate are of so much more importance than freedom of speech. Failing that, feel bad about yourself for a lack of judgment in making the forum a better place.
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The fact that you need LZ to explain to you how your post was inappropriate has lead me to entertain two conclusions about you. The first is that you're by far one of the worst attempts at being a troll that I have ever seen on the internet. And no, that is not a compliment. The second is that you're just a complete idiot. I have a feeling it's the latter, so I'll help you out here. First, realize that this is a forum mainly dedicated to a CHILD'S card game. Meaning CHILDREN read and post on this forum. Now go back and read your post. If you still don't understand, then there is no hope for you.

@ LZ: Fellow moving avatar buddy! =D My Warhammer is at your disposal. :3

@ Magnet: You need to message me! We have things to discuss! And this thread made me think of more ideas! O:

Now, to somewhat stay on topic. Jar Jar Binks is the best character in the franchise and should have an offspring in the new movies! ...actually, not really. I actually think Darth Maul is the best. Sadly, he didn't get much of a role in the Phantom Menace, but he was still good. Really hoping Disney introduces another badass like him. ^^

[Great Unclean One: VK]

[quote name='Mr. A.' timestamp='1351890454' post='6059728']
No matter what happens to Star Wars. I will always believe that The Phantom Menace was the best.

Sorry, 4-6 were great but... I just adore Number 1. It was the first time I ever saw Liam Neeson, my favorite actor.
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That one was the one that killed all hope for anyone to become a Jedi or Sith.

That one killed my childhood hope of becoming a Sith and liberating a world from the tyranny of the Jedi.

That one helped kill my childhood all together.

You can understand why I hate it.

That and lil Ani and Jar Jar.

[Darth Revan of the Sith]

[quote name='Gue'O VK' timestamp='1351904804' post='6059916']
That one was the one that killed all hope for anyone to become a Jedi or Sith.

That one killed my childhood hope of becoming a Sith and liberating a world from the tyranny of the Jedi.

That one helped kill my childhood all together.

You can understand why I hate it.

That and lil Ani and Jar Jar.
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What in the name of all things holy are you babbling about?

[Dwarven King]

[quote name='Mr. A.' timestamp='1351905110' post='6059920']
What in the name of all things holy are you babbling about?
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By the sounds of it, I think he got into some bath salt. Which means he's contributing to the end of the world. Any further questions?

[Thar]

[quote name='Gue'O VK' timestamp='1351904804' post='6059916']
That one was the one that killed all hope for anyone to become a Jedi or Sith.

That one killed my childhood hope of becoming a Sith and liberating a world from the tyranny of the Jedi.

That one helped kill my childhood all together.

You can understand why I hate it.

That and lil Ani and Jar Jar.
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You hate Jar Jar? WHAT THE F*CK IS WRONG WITH YOU?
[size=2][s]*please correct me if I misunderstood you.*[/s][/size]

I dunno what the deal is with all the classic Star Wars fans ripping on the prequels. If you ask me, they're all nitpicking. They only point out little things in the movies that are bad and they exaggerate those points where basically JUST BECAUSE OF THOSE LITTLE THINGS the movie is total sh*t. And if they're not doing that, then they are just generally ignorant and can't even give Lucas credit for keeping an awesome series alive.

How else would all the non-readers in the world know how Darth Vader came into the picture? How else would they know who Darth Maul is? How else would they know how truly awesome Yoda was?

I dunno what Disney has in store for us, but for what it's worth, I'm not gonna be ignorant and bash it right away just because it's not a product of Lucas anymore. There may be some elements in them that will throw me in for a loop, but that doesn't mean it's worth HATING.

In a nutshell, people just need to adapt to the present and not leave their ass in the past because, as far as I know, it only makes your tolerance for society worse, and it might end up with you giving up on it completely and you won't be successful in life. At least that's my assumption.

[quote name='Mr. A.' timestamp='1351905110' post='6059920']
What in the name of all things holy are you babbling about?
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He's saying he hates it.

[quote name='Dwarven King' timestamp='1351905628' post='6059925']
By the sounds of it, I think he got into some bath salt. Which means he's contributing to the end of the world.
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No.

[ListenToLife]

Actually, he had a point when he was talking about Childhood killing. Looking back, it started to talk about the Midi-Chlorian thing, which basically made everyone lose hope for ever becoming an awesome, lightsabre weilding space-policeman.
But they were still great.

[TheTurtleOnceCalledGod]

It also means star wars characters will end up in the continuity of Kingdom Hearts. One day, Disney will rule the world.

[Great Unclean One: VK]

@ Loki

Your right, I should love Jar Jar and how annoying he is and how he helped Palpatine in the Clone Wars. I love him as much as I loved watching the Empire getting f***ed up by f***ing teddy bears.

f***ing TEDDY BEARS.

In addition, sounds like someone doesn't know about how Lucas f***ed up the EU beyond repair. Originally, Jedis could be evil and Siths could have been good guys, but no. Lucas just had to make it so that ALL jedis are good and ALL Siths are evil. No grey areas what so ever. Not to mention the Force users who were neutral and wasn't a Sith or Jedi, but not, those people were retconned into becoming pure evil as well.

[Legend Zero]

Little Anikan is my favorite character. (mostly because I had http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Episode_I:_Racer and it was a great game as a child)

I'm just worried that Disney may be in it for the money (to make back what they lost) instead of the fans. Because we all know it will sell regardless of how bad it is.

[Great Unclean One: VK]

My thing about Ani is due to some things.

1. The whole chosen one thing. It sounds lame.

2. Being borne of the Medi whats it. The more better theory by most fans is that he's Palpatine's son. Hell, that's more plausible.

3. How he took down a f***ing starship. Pod racing, sure, but flying a military star fighter and taking out a starship from within? Bull.

[Ｍｒ．Ｒｏｂｏｔ]

[quote name='GodWynn' timestamp='1351828940' post='6059188']
Sorry to burst your bubble, but it would seem that the current plan isn't going to base it off of the books. If this was said already, I apologize because I'm not going back to read everything.

[url="http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/10/31/star-wars-episode-vii-will-be-an-original-story"]http://www.ign.com/a...-original-story[/url]
[url="http://www.eonline.com/news/358685/star-wars-7-plot-will-be-an-original-story-says-lucasfilm-source"]http://www.eonline.c...ucasfilm-source[/url]

Anyway, I have my doubts right now for 3 reasons that this will be good.

1. Disney's last foray into space (John Carter of Mars or whatever it was called) turned out abysmally. However, not many people today know of the John Carter series so it can be forgiven here or summarily dismissed perhaps.
2. These aren't based off of the books, so this will destroy the canon that exists, and basically restart the story from scratch. That could bring up issues with the creativity unless they already have a solid story. All I know of the plan thus far is that it will involve Luke Skywalker as a 30-40 yr old man (or so I've read).
3. My biggest concern is that the last 3 "episodes" (Movies 1-3) were not quite as good as those made in the 80s.

Basically, I just have some concerns. I could easily be wrong and these upcoming movies will be amazing.
[/quote]

The books didn't start off directly after episode 6. Almost all of them are either after Luke create and reestablish The Jedi Council or prequels about the old era. If they're not going to adapt any of the book series, it can still be canon just as long as they didn't butchered up continuity like episode 1-3 that George Lucas had to change episode 4,5,6 so they fit in with the prequels.

[quote name='DaWeirdGuy' timestamp='1351866751' post='6059398']
I didn't mean Extended Universe Canon. That was never George Lucas Canon anyway.
The Luke Skywalker thing was Lucas' original Idea; he wanted the main character's from the original trilogy back as old people. But he had also planned on Leia not being Luke's Sister and Han dying in episode 6. He pretty much scrapped Vii-IX then.

And I dont get why everyone complains about 1-3. I personally liked them. Perhaps the story wasn't as good; but it wasn't meant to be. It's basically an extended prologue, and I liked the back story to it. I also liked the whole civilisation in it, and preferred the Jedi as a organisation than the scattered people in 4-6.
Also, the hate that they got is one of the reason's why Lucas totally stopped thinking about doing more. Something along the lines of "Why make something when they're just gonna complain?" (Not an actual quote, just the gist of it.)
[/quote]

Actually the extended or expanded universe..whatever it's called is deemed canon by Lucas himself. Any book/comic with [b]G[/b] are counted as absolute canon. Anything with C refers to the main body of EU work, and is the next most authoritative level of canon. All material published under the Star Wars label but not falling into either [b]G[/b], [b]S[/b], or [b]N[/b] is [b]C[/b] canon, and is considered authoritative as long as not contradicted by [b]G[/b] canon. [b]S[/b] refers to older, less accurate, or less coherent EU works, which would not ordinarily fit in the main continuity of [b]G[/b] and [b]C[/b] canon. Unless referenced by a [b]G[/b] or [b]C[/b]-level source, the story itself is considered non-continuity, but the non-contradicting elements are still a canon part of the Star Wars universe and [b]N [/b]material is also known as "non-canon" or "non-continuity" material. What-if stories (such as those published under the Infinities label), game stats, and anything else that is directly contradicted by higher canon and cannot at all fit into continuity is placed into this category. "N-canon" is the only level that is not at all considered canon by Lucasfilm.

Also, the reason why the prequels receive many hates' because they were written badly and defies the original trilogy which then made George Lucas had to edit the original trilogy to fit with the prequels.

In the original trilogy being a Force sensitive was a bit like being a Wizard in HP. It was something considered special, almost mythical. In the original movies the very existence of the force is widely questioned by most people, and given its only been a single generation since the destruction of the Order this is something that would only be plausible if the order was already cloistered and mysterious prior to it vanishing.

The prequel movies ruined this by making force sensitivity and jedi so prolific and well known that it makes the near mythic status that the force and its adherents has in the wider galaxy seem stupid and silly. It makes it feel boring, mundane, and every day instead of special and rare.
Also Qui Gon being Obi's master breaks prior established lore as Obi says in the original trilogy that Yoda was his master. And Darth Maul is cool but he's also a boring paper thin character without any depth to him. But people who enjoy the extended universe likes him better in the prequel comics.

So there you go, the only reason why the prequels suck is because of it's atrocious writing. The directing's fine but Lucas really need a co-writer like he did on the original trilogy which was his wife(not ex though)


[quote name='Coral Blue' timestamp='1351791432' post='6058864']
There's a reason [i]The Empire Strikes Back[/i] was the best movie ..George Lucas didn't direct it and had less control over the movie than any of the other films in the series. I do like [i]Return of the Jedi[/i] better for the most part, but the ewoks...ugh.

Anyway, I think it'll be interesting to see how Disney approaches the new movies, but I don't think we have too much to worry about.
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Lucas was still writing it. Only difference is they brought in professional and his ex wife to co/rewrite it to polish the script.

[Darth Revan of the Sith]

I didn't feel it was mundane. I felt the Jedi finally had a conglomerate, an organization with it's own rules and structure. I saw a senate and it's politics, it was all really enthralling the prequels were. The political anecdotes were especially entertaining for a guy like me. I never liked the "Mythic" Status of the Jedi, I rather liked the idea of an organization of humans who chose to fight for the greater good using abilities given to them by the force. What I also saw, was an organization that, even at it's highest point in power, was vulnerable to trickery. That is why I like the prequels, its politics, its action, and its main concept.

[Thar]

Jar Jar helped Palpatine, not the Emperor. He obviously didn't know.

I still love him. He's one of my favorite characters mainly because I love Gungans in general.

Screw anyone who nitpicks about the prequels. I like them.