CLG Klavier Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 My typical Rengar build includes Randuin's, Feral Flare, BotRK and Youumu's, so let's ay I'm used =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyur Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Throw in a Sword of the Divine on Rango for sh*ts'n'giggles, and all you have are actives. Although Feral Flare is just a ward lol. Where are my boot actives? Rito pls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Klav can use actives, confirmed as best player on YCM. /only kind of sarcastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Klav can use actives, confirmed as best player on YCM. /only kind of sarcastic Mechanically I'm a useless piece of crap who doesn't even deserve Gold 5 (no wonder I can't go any higher) but on the theory side...I won't deny ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Mechanically I'm a useless piece of crap who doesn't even deserve Gold 5 Whoa, me too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Ok, let's test my knowledge about the game. AMA. I'll answer everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyur Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Why did they remove Talon's silence? Q_Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 XD Counterplay. The idea if an assassin 100-0'ing you and you not being able to do anything is stupid. Makes me wonder why Fizz's E still exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyur Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 That makes sense. At least now when I go Talon bot with my friend I just have to press E to get a flash. Works 80% of the time, 100% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 What happens when Zyra kills Sion or Karthus, or vice versa? Speaking of Zyra, what happens when she stands near Maokai? Or by Leona? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 What happens when Zyra kills Sion or Karthus, or vice versa? Speaking of Zyra, what happens when she stands near Maokai? Or by Leona? She gets some extra gold iirc? Plants vs Zombies anyways. I know that near Leona she grows in size a bit (?)...no idea Maokai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 She gets some extra gold iirc? Plants vs Zombies anyways. Right I know that near Leona she grows in size a bit (?) Yup...no idea Maokai. Mao gains 1 movespeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 clutch movespeed always good tbh I meant actual gameplay stuff, buuuut, this kind of questions are ok too :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyur Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 I'm enjoying this, though. QUESTION TWO. Why does the "meta" exist as it currently is when it's so easy to break teams that are "meta" with teams that "aren't meta"? It's something I'd really like to know. I'm tired of getting flamed for going Talon+Vlad bot lane with a friend, only to get fed to the point where I can full-to-none the free farm Nasus, and my Vlad friend can 1v5 at 25 minutes. Sure, we don't always win games, but we have yet to lose a lane to the point where we can't come back anymore. All I've ever really gotten was "because the pros did/said this..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 You mean the lane setups of roles? Like bot being ADC+support etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyur Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Essentially, yes. I get the solo top/mid and having a jungler thing, I'm pretty much only talking about bot lane here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 It's all about the Dragon. It's a very important objective early on in the game (assuming higher level play here, not necessarily LCS, but like Gold+ level) and lots of times, it's contested. Supports are set in the botlane to mantain vision and control on that objective, since more action is happening in the lower part of the map than in the upper in the early game. About ADC...I guess it's pretty much because an ADC is needed, so it's put down with the support, and the fact that even early on, an average ADC will deal more damage to the Dragon than an average bruiser due to their usual damage steroids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyur Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 But anyone can maintain vision on dragon, save for the top laner. You don't need a support to do that. That's like people 40 minutes into the game saying "Sona, we need more wards", like it's ONLY the support's job to ward. And yes, the ADC will deal more consistent damage to dragon early on, but you won't be fighting the dragon if it's contested, you'll be attempting to get rid of the people contesting it. At least, that's my belief, correct me if I'm wrong. That's why I'm confused about it. It's just that I've had overwhelming success with "play whatever you feel like bot lane", over the "meta" bot lane is all, which is the biggest reason why I'm asking. Same thing in ranked. Flame flame flame for our bot lane, but my Lee Sin and Talon stats don't lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Hm, let's think about it. There are 3 lanes, and a jungle. That's 4 sources of income. But 5 players. That's why support is an established role - someone who can still do something in the team, even while having an almost nonexistant income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyur Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 With the addition of Targon's and the Ancient Coin, both bottom laners can keep up their income relatively well, and if they're keeping dragon control and/or murdering the enemy laners, neither of the bottom laners will hardly be behind in gold, if at all. Starting with either of those items will hardly even be a hindrance to whoever you decide to pick, whether it be Vlad, Fizz, Kha'Zix, or Riven, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 To be honest, the gold generating items provide you no combat stats most of the time, just a little of HP or AP, so it will be a hinderance a few times. But ok, your point is valid - you can pick any champion down there. However, you STILL have lower income than others, unless you're splitting the farm in 2, which is a problem for both of you then. But if you don't share the creeps, you need to be able to operate on a minimal amount of gold, aka have utility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyur Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Yeah, they don't provide any offensive bonuses, the tiny bit of AP from Spellthief's might help someone a little bit, but it's not much. Although I don't like building Spellthief's because then you can't effectively split the farm up. And it doesn't work if you don't have any CC, like a Yi/Fiora lane won't work unless one of you runs exhaust, and even then you'd only be able to kill with exhaust up more than likely. Although even just Talon's CC is enough, and it works pretty well from my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 This is cool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNuWIZZaysU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 That was... pretty impressive... if it was another champion. I mean, it's not as if Katarina does fair amounts of damage so I assume that's what every Katarina player does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makο Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 Finally bought Caitlyn ...this champ is so, so easy like, it's almost unfair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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