The Amazing Avian Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Well, no, I guess not. It depends on the situation. Not every jungler can dive well. Keep in mind, the laners are also a factor here. Someone like Renekton, Nasus, and Riven for example are very good at diving, but by the same token, they're not someone you would want to recklessly dive due to either their tankiness, crowd control, and damage. As far as good diving junglers, Lee Sin, Jarvan, Vi, and Sejuani are very good at it, however, you would ideally want to double up on them. Diving bot lane is a bit trickier due to there being two champions instead of just one, and someone like Nami, Thresh, or Leona would be pretty good at keeping their carry safe during one of these, potentially turning the fight around for them if the dive isn't properly executed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Moonflowyr Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Also matters who YOUR gank buddy is. If my toplaner has no CC, no huge burst, in melee range, we'd be lucky to take a Flash, let alone a life. If you recognize that quote, you are awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Also matters who YOUR gank buddy is. If my toplaner has no CC, no huge burst, in melee range, we'd be lucky to take a Flash, let alone a life. If you recognize that quote, you are awesome. Pretty sure it's Sky? I mean, that's Fiora in a nutshell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Moonflowyr Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 http://youtu.be/xD7VayT4KqQ?lis This video basically sums up all my jungle grievances. All of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 And this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLyVPleyP2o I need those in my guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Pretty sure it's Sky? I mean, that's Fiora in a nutshell. Fiora's not THAT bad. She DOES have a lot of damage (at least early), IDK what he's talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 I don't try to chew out junglers, but sometimes you get ones that are just f***ing useless to your lane. I was pinging for help practically every three minutes so I could get this f**king Sion I was facing in top lane taken down, but the Vi was either too busy farming or ganking the bottom lane the whole time. The ONLY two times I EVER got her f**king attention was when I died. Never mind me asking for her help or anything, cause apparently her time was too precious despite me having a stun so she could lay down the damage unless I was dead. And the second time she got the kill on Sion that wouldn't have required me to f**king die, but apparently that's the only way I could get her attention. Also Shirley, the Golem/Lizard camps rise at 1:55, not 2:05. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 My favorite is when the jungler only shows up when you die, gets to your lane, realizes they can't do anything, kills a wave a minions and then leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Also Shirley, the Golem/Lizard camps rise at 1:55, not 2:05. Oh, good catch, I got them mixed up, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 I always know the time as I pay attention to it when I help the jungler get blue, as I always set a ward in the river at 1:00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 So I had my first non AI game yesterday, went like [url=http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1602845987/33481751]this[/url]. My friend who set it up was the Malzahar, the next day at work he apologized for going ham during the game. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 So I had a game earlier where I was playing with 4 friends, and I was playing Braum top for reasons. Three of my friends were doing really badly (two don't play much, the third was lagging really hard), and I was feeding pretty badly too (Braum vs LB qq). We hadn't taken any turrets except mid outer and inner, we were down like 30k gold, and their Kennen had 30+ kills. We managed to catch him out and get their inhib, but then they just kept on winning. Then we dumped everything on Kennen again, pushed into their base, and Twitch and Lee xPeke'd them into oblivion. It was glorious: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1606072194/209813671 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Avian Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Why can't I get games like this in ranked? I was a bit disappointed in myself that I allowed Rengar to get any farm at all though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 I fought my first Karthus yesterday. Very interesting passive and ult that guy has, I think I'm gonna buy him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 His global ult is op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Karthas is a lot of fun to play. Do avoid his Defile though, as it can do a lot more damage than you suspect it would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 His ult did surprise me at first. He killed me a couple times with it before I figured out what the heck was going on, but once I knew what was up I didn't really have any issues with it for the rest of the match. I wouldn't call it OP, at least not before I see it in use myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Moonflowyr Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Karthus is one of my FAVORITE midlaners. Especially Suicide Karthus in a teamfight-oriented build. Flash into the enemy team, wall behind them, turn on my E, sit there and Q till I die. After that I hit ult and then Q some more. Decimates teams when the rest of my team follows up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 I'd like to take part in the Support portion of the guides going up. I do play it almost exclusively in ranked, and it is my favorite roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 The one tip I can give you for Karthus is to avoid last hitting with autoattacks whenever possible. Use your Q, 'cause his auto animation is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 The one tip I can give you for Karthus is to avoid last hitting with autoattacks whenever possible. Use your Q, 'cause his auto animation is terrible. Since his graphical change his autos are a lot easier to last hit with, but I can agree wholeheartedly with your statement. It's much better to last hit with your Q than your auto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Avian Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 I play a lot of Karthus. He is by far my favorite and most consistent mid laner. One thing about him is that there are no real counters (unless you count that horned goatfooted skank who cockblocks your ult). In lane, there's really nothing stopping a good Karthus player from farming, which is all he needs to do, plus the poke from his q is ridiculous if you land it on solo targets, plus sometimes you'll get the guys who stand on your q to prevent it from killing a creep, taking damage themselves. You're also a monster in teamfights. Even though you die, you're always taking one or two people with you, potentially more if you have your ult. I also just remembered I ulted a low health team for a penta, but got a quad because Anivia's passive is stupid. EDIT: You can farm with auto attacks, but with q, you can kill them from higher health. It's considerably more reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 One thing about him is that there are no real counters I can name 3. Akali Syndra Zed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Thanks for the Karthus tips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 I love using Hourglass on Karthus after he uses E. It's pretty much like Morgana and her R, except you tend to do A LOT more damage. The bets part is when people ignore Karthus for other champions while he has E up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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