Makο Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 His new everything is so much better You can finally hit with W effectivally! Q is so much more smooth! E range indicator!!! Spray and Pray's new name is kinda dumb, even if it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 The name is the greatest travesty in modern league of legends and calling it Contaminate instead of Expunge will take some getting used to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 I would love the Rat-a-tat-tat pun if Spray and Pray wasn't such an awesome name. And screw Contaminate, it shall eternally be Expunge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makο Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 WAIT IT'S NOT EXPUNGE ANYMORE WOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 yeah riot decided that they were buffing twitch too much so they nerfed the names on some of his moves. worked flawlessly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makο Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 gotta maintain balance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Yeah, no idea why they changed the names. Rito so silleh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gokai-Red Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 4.7 resume...AP Fortune...Oh god all my love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makο Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vtqhyg5PNJ4 RIVER SPIRIT NAMI THO I'M SO EXCITED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gokai-Red Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 I go for long range, especially with that Hurricane gear. Power is good, but you need speed as well, less time recovering between attacks the better. By the way, Zyra's basic, is it ranged or melee? You know if you like the Hurricane thingy so much Try it in something like Varus, Caitlyn or Teemo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Avian Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Astro, Runaan's Hurricane only works with champs like Varus and Twitch, who spread blight and poison for some burst. Teemo can also use it pretty well. TF and Kennen can use it so Stacked Deck and Electrical Surge can stack up faster, but they aren't really dps champs. And when Jinx has Fishbones, the bolts explode on hit. Too few people can actually use Hurricane effectively, so don't get it on everyone. It might seem like a good item, but it really isn't for most champs. That said, Runaan Varus is pretty fun if you can land your abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 This morning in a nutshell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gokai-Red Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Lol My friend gift me SKT-1 Jax last night...XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Avian Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 rito pls nerf skt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 ^ Speaking of All Stars... AMERICA Wasn't expecting C9 to do this well o_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHN. Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 I cried when C9 beat FNC :c Atleast we're not last though, poor TPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Dude Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 Astro, Runaan's Hurricane only works with champs like Varus and Twitch, who spread blight and poison for some burst. Teemo can also use it pretty well. TF and Kennen can use it so Stacked Deck and Electrical Surge can stack up faster, but they aren't really dps champs. And when Jinx has Fishbones, the bolts explode on hit. Too few people can actually use Hurricane effectively, so don't get it on everyone. It might seem like a good item, but it really isn't for most champs. That said, Runaan Varus is pretty fun if you can land your abilities. I'm well aware it's for ranged. For champs like Garen, Drayven, or Blitzkrank, it's useless since they're melee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 So the more I thought about it, the more Graves feels really similiar to Lucian. Buckshot is really similiar to Piercing Light, in the way it's a high damage harass tool that scales amazingly with AD. Neither falls off if it hits more than one target, so you can not mind enemy miions. Smoke Screen does almost the same job as Ardent Blaze if it goes for catching up to people, plus it has some extra utility, and is even better for disengages. Though it will never do any significant damage unlike Lucian's. Quickdraw and Relentless Pursuit are both short range dashes, however, Graves can have his up more often and it provides a very meaningful AS steroid, allowing you to build pure AD early on. Lucian's has more utility and can go up to 0 mana wise. Collateral Damage is a much better execute ultimate than Lucian's The Culling, though there is the fact that Lucian's was never meant to be an execute, but an autoattack extension. Lucian does the waveclear job better too, but that balances out since Graves's Q is better than Lucian's at that. Basically, both are pretty similiar characters, however, Graves is much more on the offensive side due to his huge burst and innate tankyness thanks to his passive, which will be up all the time really. Lucian does a much better job at kiting, and his damage really adds up in extended fights thanks to Lightslinger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makο Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 All your points are valid and well-spoken, coming from a Lucian and Graves player. Except... Is Graves better than Lucian? I think adding this was a little unnecessary, since comparing them is a bit antithetical. As said through your own analysis, they both play similar, but for very different situations, so comparing which is "better" is like comparing Twitch to Tristana just 'cause they both got a lot of range and AS options. ALSO I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO KEEP TRACK OF LCS OR ALL STARS SOMEONE GIVE ME THE SITREP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 Hehe, right, removed that. I just have a stupid habit of doing that. Indeed, just writing out points is much better. But thanks =3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Avian Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 I'm well aware it's for ranged. For champs like Garen, Drayven, or Blitzkrank, it's useless since they're melee. I mean they have a reason to build it. With Varus's W, his attacks spread blight, which when hit with another ability, deal bonus damage, Twitch has his poison, which when stacked up can make his E hurt a lot. Cait's passive makes every 8th basic attack deal bonus damage and the Runaan bolts count for the stacks, and Teemo just scales off attack speed and AP so it's a decent item for him. Besides that, if you're ever in a 1v1, Runaan won't give you anything other than attack speed whereas Shiv would get you crit and the bonus magic damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 I'm still salty that coL is in the LCS and Team 8 isn't. Like seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gokai-Red Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 I'm well aware it's for ranged. For champs like Garen, Drayven, or Blitzkrank, it's useless since they're melee. Runnan + Hydra on Jayce for a troll moment OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makο Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 ALSO I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO KEEP TRACK OF LCS OR ALL STARS SOMEONE GIVE ME THE SITREP ???????!!!!!????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHN. Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 I haven't really been able to keep track either because of studying but here is what I know: LCS - F*ckton of roster swaps and other drama, too many things to list. Allstars - Neither NA or EU did that good, OMG better than people expected, facing SKT later today in the finals. @Welche: I agree, Cali is such a god holy crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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