D.A._Sakuyamon Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 [center][spoiler=Original Build][/center] [center][img]http://i.imgur.com/arx5r.png[/img][/center] [center][/spoiler][/center] [center][img]http://i.imgur.com/6Ypwl.png[/img][/center] [center]Made cause of this topic: [url="http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/291620-arcana-force-xxi-the-world/"]http://forum.yugiohc...-xxi-the-world/[/url][/center] [center]Ugg, I need a better engine then the Blue-Eyes engine -.- so help please.[/center] [center]Thinking of sangen, a tera, a valhalla, and allure.[/center] [center]Also thinking of adding magical mallet.[/center] [center]EDIT: Made alot of changes. Tried Lance but it was dead in the water. Did try the fortune lady engine but made the deck far more inconsistent. Using D-Heros engine though has greatly improved its constancy. I'v dropped a Valhalla but that has brought a few problems. Namely that now it's searcher is becoming dead faster. What should I neg for it?[/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 This isn't a lock though. As soon as you run out of fodder (which I assume will be in a turn), the lock's done. http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/World_Lock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1351084612' post='6052590'] This isn't a lock though. As soon as you run out of fodder (which I assume will be in a turn), the lock's done. [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/World_Lock"]http://yugioh.wikia....wiki/World_Lock[/url] [/quote] Venus gives me 2 turns instead of 1. Also, because of that I can summon more during those turns to keep it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Frog engine? Bring back treeborn eternally? Not sure hwo you'd go about building it, but I've seen one with is Treeborn and that thing Yubel used in the anime Samsara Lotus? And they could act as tributes as well, meaning Valhalla is less nessacary. Given the ability of a frog engine to provide tribute fodder. Thats all I've got, no clue about how to make that into a reality though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 [quote name='Archbaron Barthandelus' timestamp='1351088597' post='6052635'] Frog engine? Bring back treeborn eternally? Not sure hwo you'd go about building it, but I've seen one with is Treeborn and that thing Yubel used in the anime Samsara Lotus? And they could act as tributes as well, meaning Valhalla is less nessacary. Given the ability of a frog engine to provide tribute fodder. Thats all I've got, no clue about how to make that into a reality though. [/quote] Tree born would conflict with Light Barrier "I think". Sure I only need light barrier once but then I'd need to add a means to get it off the field. :\ Venus is actually pretty dam good here. Basically, play Barrier, use Valhalla to summon World, normal Venus and pay 1500 for the Balls. Assuming i do this turn one, next turn I'll have 1 Ball, 1 Venus, & 1 World for a total of 5200 damage. Then turn after I atk for game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 That is assuming there are no monsters on the field. Benfit of the frogs even if they do clash is that you have infinite food, so you can keep hitting them until they stop moving, and if it goes wrong, you can stall till you bring this back under your control. Also, Lance for where your opponent's backrow may get in the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 [quote name='Archbaron Barthandelus' timestamp='1351089082' post='6052646'] That is assuming there are no monsters on the field. Benfit of the frogs even if they do clash is that you have infinite food, so you can keep hitting them until they stop moving, and if it goes wrong, you can stall till you bring this back under your control. Also, Lance for where your opponent's backrow may get in the way? [/quote] Lance is an option but what to neg for it. I'll think about trying frogs. But I want to try Venus some more. Getting Venus so far is my only real problem that I'v seen. Getting Barrier & Vahalla though is laughably easy. Even World is pretty easy to get. So I'll be putting Venus to 3 first and see if that does anything. What I need more though is a better draw engine. The Blue-Eyes engine just doesn't cut it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 I would say a Fourtune Lady draw Engine but that would be silly. Ummm, I would really neg broww for Lance. I don't see any great reason why Broww is there. You considered one Day of Peace to stll your way to the lock? If so, and since you aren't doing a complete lock, its probably worth running over upstarts I'd say. But thats just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 [quote name='Archbaron Barthandelus' timestamp='1351089761' post='6052658'] I would say a Fourtune Lady draw Engine but that would be silly. Ummm, I would really neg broww for Lance. I don't see any great reason why Broww is there. You considered one Day of Peace to stll your way to the lock? If so, and since you aren't doing a complete lock, its probably worth running over upstarts I'd say. But thats just me. [/quote] The only problem with peace is I'm not really sure how it'd work. Cause Peace stops any damage either player takes until the end of the opponents next turn. Since World skips there turn, what "I think" would happen is that it'd keep stopping me from dealing damage until they actually have a turn to end. Alright, I'll neg broww. EDIT: I'll try the Fortune Lady Engine. I feel it'd work better. Plus their decent beaters in case I upstart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Bump Changes: -2 Blue-Eyes -3 Stones -1 Sangan -2 Browws -3 Dragon tuner draw -1 Valhalla +1 BlS +1 lv. 6 destiny h +2 ss destiny h +2 Plasma +2 Mallet +1 Trade-In +3 Destiny Draw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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