If Yu-Gi-Oh! had a Fighting Game... [Roster Discussion]

[Kingdom Xathers]

I was having this thought throughout the late morning-early afternoon today of a possible Yu-Gi-Oh Fighting Game featuring the Duel Monsters as playable characters. Now, to keep things from going out of hand, I'd like to limit this to human/humanoid monsters (however, larger monsters such as Blue-Eyes White Dragon can appear in a character's "Special Limit" attack).

Anyone is free to make their own suggestions, but please, don't get too carried away, alright?



Possible Character Roster:

~Arcana Force 0: The Fool (w/ some of the other Arcana Force monsters, like The World, in some of his(?) Special Limits)

~E*HERO Wildheart (w/ his related Fusions as a "Transformation Special")

~Number 39: Utopia (w/ Number C39: Utopia Ray as a "Transformation Special")

~D.D. Warrior Lady (w/ Warrior Lady of the Wasteland as an alternate costume)

~Warrior Dai Grepher (w/ Dark Grepher and Lightray Grepher as alternate costumes)

~Wulf, Lightsworn Beast [b](has alt costumes where he cosplays as Assault Beast, Lycanthrope, T.G. Warwolf, etc.)[/b]

~Tour Guide from the Underworld & Sangan (Sangan acts as an extension for her attacks. In addition, the Tour Bus is used in one of her Special Limits. [b]The original four Charmers will also be cosplay options for Tour Guide, while Sangan cosplays as the corresponding Familiar[/b])

~Kaibaman (w/ Blue-Eyes White Dragon used in one of his Special Limits)

~Battle Ox [b](w/ Tiger Axe, Mezuki, Wolf Axweilder, etc. as Alt. Costumes)[/b]

~Dark Magician Girl (w/ Dark Magician used in one of her Special Limits. In addition, Magician's Valkyria and Magi Magi * Magician Girl will be some of her alternate costumes)

~Black Luster Soldier (the Ritual Version, not the lolborked Envoy)

~Harpie Lady (W/ Sisters and Pet Dragon as Special Limits)

~Gagagigo (w/ a "leveling system" that transforms him into each stage [Gagagigo-->Giga Gagagigo-->Gogiga Gagagigo-->Awakened Hero Gagagigo]. Gigobyte makes a cameo in his pre-fight animation before turning into Gagagigo)

~Gearfried the Iron Knight (can transform into either his Legendary Swordsman form or his Phoenix form. Will also have a Lightray color scheme for one of his costumes)

~Vorse Raider (w/ XX-Saber Boggart Knight as an alt. costume)

~Warrior of Zera (Transform Gimmick)

~Maestroke the Symphony Djinn

~Neo-Spacian Dark Panther (will have a moveset consisting of moves from other characters)

~Gazelle the King of Mythical Beasts

~Freed the Brave Wanderer

~Marauding Captain [b](w/ X-Saber Souza and Field Commander Raaz as alt. costumes)[/b]

~Junk Warrior

~Djinn Presider of Rituals

~Inzekor Earwig

~Gravekeeper's Descendent

~Jinzo (w/ Jinzo Lord as a Transformation Special)

~Don Zaloog

~Machine King

~Embodiment of Apophis

~Gem-Knight Pearl

~Celtic Guardian

~Saggi the Dark Clown

~Toon Summoned Skull

~Musician King

~Ninja Grandmaster Hanzo (w/ pallette swaps referencing the other "Colored" Ninjas)

[b]~Des Kangaroo[/b]

[b]~Toon Mermaid (the shell has also grown limbs in order to move about)

~Gishki Ariel[/b]




Possible Boss Fights

~Invader of Darkness

~Garlandolf, King of Destruction

~Ojama King (...LMAO!)

~Perfect Machine King

~The Creator

~Obelisk the Tormentor (O_o?!)

~Yubel

~Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World

~Other Boss Mons used by Antagonists from the anime/manga

[b]~DarkNite/Nitemare

~Gishki Noellia/Evigishki Psychelone
[/b]



Possible Stages:

Jam Session: Music-based monsters performing on a concert stage. Monsters would include:
Symphonic Warriors
The Musical Djinns
Spirit of the Harp
Hibikime
Mystic Piper
Skull Conductor
Musician King (if not used as a player character)
Maestroke the Symphony Djinn (replaces Skull Conductor if not a player character)
Lorelei, the Symphonic Arsenal


~Forbidden Dungeon: A prison where the forbidden monsters are held. Monsters would include:

Rescue Cat (in a portable cage)
Cyber-Stein (strapped to a gurney)
Witch of the Black Forest (in a cell)
Mind Master (held in an energy field)
Goyo Guardian (tied up in his one chains)
Brionac and Trishula (both frozen solid in an ice wall)
... and, though not present, "Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of Beginning's" empty cell is seen with its door open.


~Cosmic Battle: An extraterrastrial battle taking place in Neo Space. Monsters would include:

Worm Archetype
Alien Archetype
E*HERO Neos
Neo Space Pathfinder
The six Neo-Spacians (five if Neo-Spacian Dark Panther is a player character)
Master Hyperion


~Heaven: A mixture of the Realm of Light, Sanctuary in the Sky, and Chorus of Sanctuary. Monsters would include:

Lightsworn Archetype
Agent Archetype
Petit Angel and Shining Friendship
Fabled Archetype (as invaders)
Vylon Archetype


~Seige of Dark Illusion Castle: A group of monsters attempt to take down two castles; one on the ground and the other floating above it. Monsters would include:

The Tyrant from the "Royal" Trap series
"Huge Revolution" monsters
Marauding Captain (will be replaced by Field Commander Raaz if used as a player character)
Throwstone Unit
Supply
Gaia the Dragon Champion
Catapult Turtle
Castle of Dark Illusions


~Thriller: A Dance Routine in Zombie World. Monsters would include:

Master Kyonshee
Mezuki
Pumpking the King of Ghosts
Il Blud
Grave Squirmer
Zombie Master
Clown Zombie
Armored Zombie
Reaper of the Cards
Spirit Reaper
Poison Mummy


~Bataille des Arcanes: A fight between the Arcana Force and the Prophecy Archetypes. 'Nuff said.


[b]~Flowers on the Nile: Stage resembles the image shown in "Blessings of the Nile", except the time of day is closer to dusk, and, of course, the addition of the flowers floating in the Nile River. Possible monster cameos include:[/b]

[b]Yomi Ship[/b]
[b]3-Hump Lacooda[/b]
[b]Guardian Sphinx (and any other "Sphinx" monster, in general)[/b]


[b]~Ancient City Lemuria: An underwater city, featuring numerous WATER monsters. The actual battle takes place inside a temple, while the underwater seen is shown in the background. Possible monster cameos:[/b]

[b]The Furious Sea King/Night Lizard[/b]
[b]Water Omotics[/b]
[b]Warrior of Atlantis[/b]
[b]Elemental HERO Ocean[/b]
[b]Elemental HERO Bubbleman (in a tiny submersible. [i]Bubbleman can also appear in other stages at random[/i])[/b]
[b]7-Colored Fish[/b]

[Saynt]

Charmers?

[Agro]

You literally can't have Gagagigo without Freed, Maurauding Captain, and Invader of Darkness.

[Kingdom Xathers]

[quote name='Agro' timestamp='1349580292' post='6039420']
You literally can't have Gagagigo without Freed, Maurauding Captain, and Invader of Darkness.
[/quote]

Sure, Freed and Marauding I get, but Invader? If anything, I'll put him in a "Boss Fight" list for characters that can be battled but not controllable.


That said, I've updated the list.

[Toffee.]

Des Kangaroo would obviously have a Fist of The North Star-styled Special.

[STVB]

where is summoned skull?

[Susie]

I keep on thinking that Maha Vailo should have a spot in the Character Roster
http://ycg.chakra42.net/images/mrl/MRL-012.jpg

[Agro]

[quote name='Russell Taurus Oxford' timestamp='1349579111' post='6039415']please, don't get too carried away, alright?
[/quote][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_IY6EouGtw[/media]

[quote name='Russell Taurus Oxford' timestamp='1349579111' post='6039415']
Possible Character Roster:

~Arcana Force 0: The Fool (w/ some of the other Arcana Force monsters, like The World, in some of his(?) Special Limits)

[b]Can definitely imagine it as that crazy one of all the choices.[/b]

~E*HERO Wildheart (w/ his related Fusions as a "Transformation Special")

[b]There should only be one or two HEROs as character options. Do we want him as one or Neos?[/b]

~Number 39: Utopia (w/ Number C39: Utopia Ray as a "Transformation Special")

[b]There's a possibility, though maybe he's best used as a sort of weapon. Like we can make transformation specials for Xyz. Tuners can be special items that allow you to transform into Synchros. I just feel anything in the Extra Deck shouldn't be a main character.[/b]

~D.D. Warrior Lady (w/ Warrior Lady of the Wasteland as an alternate costume)

[b]Completely necessary.[/b]

~Warrior Dai Grepher (w/ Dark Grepher and Lightray Grepher as alternate costumes)

[b]Completely necessary.[/b]

~Wulf, Lightsworn Beast

[b]Out of the Lightsworns, aren't there better choices?[/b]

~Tour Guide from the Underworld & Sangan (Sangan acts as an extension for her attacks. In addition, the Tour Bus is used in one of her Special Limits)

[b]Why do I imagine her to be the best character. Light a Skull Girls character.[/b]

~Kaibaman (w/ Blue-Eyes White Dragon used in one of his Special Limits)

[b]And Paladin of White Dragon as another choice. Though I can't help thinking we have better options.[/b]

~Battle Ox

[b]With a special Enraged Battle Ox attack.[/b]

~Mezuki

[b]There isn't enough room in this game for Mezuki AND Battle Ox. If we want a Zombie, maybe Zombie Master?[/b]

~Dark Magician Girl (w/ Dark Magician used in one of her Special Limits. In addition, Magician's Valkyria and Magi Magi * Magician Girl will be some of her alternate costumes)

[b]Obvious is obvious.[/b]

~Black Luster Soldier (the Ritual Version, not the lolborked Envoy)

[b]They're the same thing. Still, good choice.[/b]

~Harpie Lady (W/ Sisters and Pet Dragon as Special Limits)

[b]Makes sense.[/b]

~Gagagigo (w/ a "leveling system" that transforms him into each stage [Gagagigo-->Giga Gagagigo-->Gogiga Gagagigo-->Awakened Hero Gagagigo]. Gigobyte makes a cameo in his pre-fight animation before turning into Gagagigo)

[b]Obvious.[/b]

~Gearfried the Iron Knight (can transform into either his Legendary Swordsman form or his Phoenix form. Will also have a Lightray color scheme for one of his costumes)

[b]Good.[/b]

~Vorse Raider (w/ XX-Saber Boggart Knight as an alt. costume)

[b]Yup. I almost forgot about it.[/b]

~Warrior of Zera (Transform Gimmick)

[b]Yup.[/b]

~Maestroke the Symphony Djinn (w/ the other "musical" Djinns as extensions for his attacks, as well as his Special Limit)

[b]Hmm.... not as sure about this one. Maybe they'd be better as a band in the background of a stage.[/b]

~Neo-Spacian Dark Panther (will have a moveset consisting of moves from other characters)

[b]I don't think the Neo-Spacians are good choices for playable characters.[/b]

~Gazelle the King of Mythical Beasts

[b]Could be an okay choice.[/b]

~Freed the Brave Wanderer
~Marauding Captain

[b]Though I wonder if we should have both...[/b]

~Junk Warrior

[b]See Number 39: Utopia.[/b]

~Djinn Presider of Rituals

[b]Hm... with the other Djinns as skins would be funny.[/b]

~Inzekor Earwig

[b]Hm... idk. I feel like the Inzektors together as a boss or just enemies would be cool.[/b]

~Wind-Up Warrior

[b]I'm not sure what to think about any Wind-Ups.[/b]

~Jinzo (w/ Jinzo Lord as a Transformation Special)

[b]Excellent choice.[/b]

~Don Zaloog

[b]Excellent Choice[/b]

~Hino-Kagu-Tsuchi

[b]Hmm.[/b]

~Gem-Knight Pearl

[b]Honestly. I'd think one of the 3 Normals would be better. Or the Normals with Alt skins.[/b]

~Celtic Guardian

[b]Good.[/b]

~Saggi the Dark Clown

[b]Debatable. Very debatable.[/b]

~Toon Summoned Skull

[b]Or regular Summoned Skull with the Toons as enemies/bosses.[/b]

Possible Boss Fights

~Invader of Darkness

[b]Yup.[/b]

~Garlandolf, King of Destruction

[b]Okay.[/b]

~Ojama King (...LMAO!)

[b]Hm...[/b]

~Perfect Machine King

[b]Maybe with Machine King as a playable character.[/b]

~The Creator

[b]I can see it.[/b]

~Obelisk the Tormentor (O_o?!)

[b]Or any of the gods.[/b]

~Yubel

[b]I'd like Yubel as a playable character. Of course, getting Yubel to yell "YOU FOOL! THIS IS NOT MY FINAL FORM!" would be hilarious.[/b]

~Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World

[b]Obvious choice. Especially if he's funny.[/b]
[/quote]

EDIT: Gaia needs to be a character. If he is, then we can have a boss battle where you have to turn into Gaia, the Dragon Champion and use the abilities of Catapult Turtle to launch into the Castle of Dark Illusions and destroy the King of Yamimikai protected by Swords of Revealing Light.

[Just Crouton]

Berserk Gorilla OR Ape Fighter (as the Zangeif)
Gem-Knight Pearl (with Oni-Gami Combo super move)
Jinzo (as the Magneto)
Gogogo Golem/ Giant
Mine Golem

[❤ Lovely Warrior ❤]

How about Magician of Faith? She could be like a shy and helpless character who has other monsters "save her" during her specials. Like she fights out of fear or just to stay alive like Terra does in Dissidia or Pherra does in Soul Caliber. Would make an intereasting character.

With the Tea/Anzu of Faith like when Tea/Anzu transformed into her in the anime and Manga.

[Shradow]

[quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1349584014' post='6039443']
Gem-Knight Pearl would obviously have a Fist of The North Star-styled Special.
[/quote]

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[Kingdom Xathers]

Okay, so, in no particular order:

I feel that Toon Summoned Skull, animation-wise, would be better than regular Summoned Skull, merely because the original is practically more stiff with its movements, whereas the Toon version would have a lot more freedom of movement.

Paladin of White Dragon, unless he doesn't ride his steed, would not work so well, given that additional (read: lengthy) animations would be required for large/bulky quadrupedal creatures to do something as simple as turning around, which could lead to quite a disadvantage if such a character were to be made playable. In fact, any mounted characters, including Gaia, would be difficult to animate for a fighting game in general. I say "large/bulky" because, while the aforementioned examples would not work, smaller quadrupedal creatures like Okami's Amaterasu or Neo-Spacian Dark Panther (if he stays quadrupedal, of course) would have an easier time moving about.

... however, the Catapult-into-the-Castle's-floatation-ring scene could be used in a "funny background moment", if nothing else but for nostalgia's sake. =3

I suppose, in terms of other possible Lightsworns aside from Wulf, you could use Jain, Garoth, Ehren, or even Celestia, but... *trails off*

I'll agree that having Mezuki and Battle Ox in the same roster would be pretty redundant, but Zombie Master... doesn't really strike me as one who would be actively fighting. Maybe something like Master Kyonshee, if we were that desperate to have a Zombie-Type character.

Which leads to my decisions such as Wind-Up Warrior and Inzektor Earwig, which were made more or less to give some of the Archetypes a participant. In Earwig's case, I wanted something that wasn't directly related to the lolFieldRape.

As for Magician of Faith, it seems that the only way for her to be a playable character is to make her the most gimmicky of all characters, since she doesn't have any discernible fighting ability at all. I would also have chosen one of the Charmers, yes, but then they would simply have the same gimmick as Tour Guide+Sangan, which is the same problem as Battle Ox-Mezuki


I know that most of my choices for playable characters may seem wonky (especially given their statistics and usage in the actual card game), but I made my decisions based on how they could be portrayed using the typical fighting game tropes/stereotypes one would find (more specifically, I'd imagine this game to be a mix, primarily, of Marvel vs Capcom, BlazBlue and Skull Girls, with elements of other games thrown in) while tossing the card game's usual mechanics into a blender, then throwing [i]that[/i] into a wood chipper (translation: the mechanics can be referenced, but they shouldn't be involved wholesale if it's going to make the fighting game too complicated otherwise):


Wildheart's Fusions would be similar to MvsC's Assist Types except, instead of merely choosing what action he'll perform when called in to assist, you choose which Fusion he actually goes with, thus being more of a Wild Card (no pun necessarily intended) when playing against another human opponent (especially online). And to clarify: his actual Fusion partner(s) won't be part of the roster. He essentially makes the Fusion on his own (using his Fusion partner's respective [i]card[/i], but still)

Gagagigo's "Level System" would be a nod to the Dragonball Z fighting games, where he can attain his next form by gaining enough Special Meter.

Tour Guide, as Agro brought up, would be the Skull Girl-esque gimmicky character, what with her ability to incorporate Sangan in a number of her attacks. Likewise, Dark Panther would be the Double/Ancient Ogre, having access to moves from the other playable characters, as well as attacks that the playable characters don't have.

And then we have Saggi, who I can see as being a Lethal Joke Character: very dangerous in the right hands and, as a homage to to anime, can use the Crush Card Virus as a Counter-based Special.

[Agro]

[quote name='Russell Taurus Oxford' timestamp='1349757061' post='6040744']
Okay, so, in no particular order:

I feel that Toon Summoned Skull, animation-wise, would be better than regular Summoned Skull, merely because the original is practically more stiff with its movements, whereas the Toon version would have a lot more freedom of movement.

[b]Still think that Regular Summoned Skull would be better with Toon version as a boss (or an alt/another character)[/b]

Paladin of White Dragon, unless he doesn't ride his steed, would not work so well, given that additional (read: lengthy) animations would be required for large/bulky quadrupedal creatures to do something as simple as turning around, which could lead to quite a disadvantage if such a character were to be made playable. In fact, any mounted characters, including Gaia, would be difficult to animate for a fighting game in general. I say "large/bulky" because, while the aforementioned examples would not work, smaller quadrupedal creatures like Okami's Amaterasu or Neo-Spacian Dark Panther (if he stays quadrupedal, of course) would have an easier time moving about.

[b]Paladin without a steed is Warrior Dai Grepher with Raregold Armor on.[/b]

... however, the Catapult-into-the-Castle's-floatation-ring scene could be used in a "funny background moment", if nothing else but for nostalgia's sake. =3

[b]Story/Challenge Mode. Make it an achievement.[/b]

I suppose, in terms of other possible Lightsworns aside from Wulf, you could use Jain, Garoth, Ehren, or even Celestia, but... *trails off*

[b]Prolly should only go with 1 LS and Wulf isn't exactly the best known (besides JD).[/b]

I'll agree that having Mezuki and Battle Ox in the same roster would be pretty redundant, but Zombie Master... doesn't really strike me as one who would be actively fighting. Maybe something like Master Kyonshee, if we were that desperate to have a Zombie-Type character.

[b]I can easily imagine Zombie Master fighting. With his ability being able to summon a Zombie monster to attack with as an avatar possibly.[/b]

Which leads to my decisions such as Wind-Up Warrior and Inzektor Earwig, which were made more or less to give some of the Archetypes a participant. In Earwig's case, I wanted something that wasn't directly related to the lolFieldRape.

[b]Why should we ever give them a participant...? THEY SHOULD BE EEEEEVIIIIIIIIL.[/b]

As for Magician of Faith, it seems that the only way for her to be a playable character is to make her the most gimmicky of all characters, since she doesn't have any discernible fighting ability at all. I would also have chosen one of the Charmers, yes, but then they would simply have the same gimmick as Tour Guide+Sangan, which is the same problem as Battle Ox-Mezuki

[b]Have the 6 charmers just be different skins. BEST PLAN.[/b]

I know that most of my choices for playable characters may seem wonky (especially given their statistics and usage in the actual card game), but I made my decisions based on how they could be portrayed using the typical fighting game tropes/stereotypes one would find (more specifically, I'd imagine this game to be a mix, primarily, of Marvel vs Capcom, BlazBlue and Skull Girls, with elements of other games thrown in) while tossing the card game's usual mechanics into a blender, then throwing [i]that[/i] into a wood chipper (translation: the mechanics can be referenced, but they shouldn't be involved wholesale if it's going to make the fighting game too complicated otherwise):

[b]A Yu-Gi-Oh! fighting game, I believe, offers a chance to introduce new mechanics that most fighting games have never even touched on. Why pull from others when one can develop their own?[/b]

Wildheart's Fusions would be similar to MvsC's Assist Types except, instead of merely choosing what action he'll perform when called in to assist, you choose which Fusion he actually goes with, thus being more of a Wild Card (no pun necessarily intended) when playing against another human opponent (especially online). And to clarify: his actual Fusion partner(s) won't be part of the roster. He essentially makes the Fusion on his own (using his Fusion partner's respective [i]card[/i], but still)

[b]I like Stratos better. Or Bubbleman. Or Neos/Neos Alius[/b]

Gagagigo's "Level System" would be a nod to the Dragonball Z fighting games, where he can attain his next form by gaining enough Special Meter.

Tour Guide, as Agro brought up, would be the Skull Girl-esque gimmicky character, what with her ability to incorporate Sangan in a number of her attacks. Likewise, Dark Panther would be the Double/Ancient Ogre, having access to moves from the other playable characters, as well as attacks that the playable characters don't have.

And then we have Saggi, who I can see as being a Lethal Joke Character: very dangerous in the right hands and, as a homage to to anime, can use the Crush Card Virus as a Counter-based Special.
[/quote]I feel this game would work best as a Fighter/RPG. IT WOULD BE AMAZING.

[Limited Edition KING]

Suggestion: Lord of D. with Flute of Summoning Dragon as Special Limit to bring out Blue Eyes & Red Eyes?

[~British Soul~]

What about Legendary Jujitsu Master?

[Kingdom Xathers]

Made a few additions in OP (changes are in [b]bold[/b] font)

[Mors Secundis]

Are we actually making this? There is a little thing called M.U.G.E.N.

It's a fighting game simulator, we'd need artists and programmers though....

I can draw to an average level and I know JAVA, but I think MUGEN is it's own language?

[Kingdom Xathers]

[quote name='Mors Secundis' timestamp='1350830071' post='6049782']
Are we actually making this? There is a little thing called M.U.G.E.N.--
[/quote]

Erm, no, sorry. This is just a discussion of what the Roster would consist of in a Yu-Gi-Oh Fighting Game if one were to be made. None of us have any plans on making any new M.U.G.E.N. characters....

[Agro]

Speaking of the roster, we have too many damn insignificant monsters.

[Kingdom Xathers]

[quote name='Agro' timestamp='1350879618' post='6050407']
Speaking of the roster, we have too many damn insignificant monsters.
[/quote]

It's a list of "possible" roster members, Aggz, it's not like all of them are to be included. And before anything else is said: Not all of the monster must be related to the current Meta.

[Agro]

[quote name='Kingdom Xathers' timestamp='1350885199' post='6050447']
It's a list of "possible" roster members, Aggz, it's not like all of them are to be included. And before anything else is said: Not all of the monster must be related to the current Meta.
[/quote]No, but they should at least be well known.

[~British Soul~]

[quote name='I' timestamp='1350119382' post='6043471']
What about Legendary Jujitsu Master?
[/quote]
...So I'm guessing this was never considered for the roster, making this and that post +1s?

[宇佐見 蓮子@C94]

Master Hyperion should be a boss battle. In space. Like that Biohazard stage from Sonic Adventure 2.

Reason: Mostly because of his artwork. His artwork clearly depicts Hyperion as a gargantuan with size even bigger than that of Unicron, holding the solar system in his hand. Of course, his size would be reduced for the battle to actually work.

[~British Soul~]

I know this falls under bosses used by other antagonists, but I wanted to expand on it anyway: Boss Fight: Meklord Astro Mekanikle.

The battle will take place on Fortissimo the Moving Fortress and you have to get through waves of Skiel, Wisel and Granel before battling the sub-boss Dragon Asterisk and then fighting Astro Mekanikle as the main boss.

[Susie]

Maybe Yubel could work as a boss, and you'd have to defeat her once then she'll turn into Yubel:The Ultimate Nightmare