Hermit Purple Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 Deck Contents: Monsters: 1x Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning 3x Constellar Gredi 3x Constellar Kaust 3x Constellar Pollux 3x Constellar Schet 2x COnstellar Sheratan 1x Effect Veiler 1x Honest 2x Kagetokage 1x Sangan 1x Spirit Reaper Spells: 1x Book of Moon 1x Constellar Starsign 2x Constellar Super Rebirth 1x Dark Hole 1x Heavy Storm 1x Monster Reborn 2x Mystical Space Typhoon 1x Pot of Duality 1x Reinforcement of the Army Trap Cards 1x Bottomless Trap Hole 2x Dimensional Prison 2x Solemn Warning 2x Torrential Tribute 2x Xyz Reborn Side Deck: (Considering changing this...) 1x Constellar Sheratan 1x Effect Veiler 1x Kagetokage 1x Constellar Starsign 1x Photon Veil 1x Adreus, Keeper of Armageddon 1x Constellar Hyades Extra Deck x1 Constellar Beehive x2 Constellar Omega x2 Constellar Pleiades x3 Constellar Ptolemys Messier M7 x1 Gaia Dragon, the Thunder Charger x1 Number 16: Shock Master x1 Number 39: Utopia x2 Photoknight Paladius x1 Tiras, Keeper of Genesis x1 Wind-up Zenmaines So far this deck has given back good results, but what do you think? [URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/4u8xu.png/][IMG]http://imageshack.us/a/img703/8346/4u8xu.png[/IMG][/URL] Uploaded with [URL=http://imageshack.us]ImageShack.us[/URL] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 There's a card, Firedance something that will let you search Kaust, get on that. BLS is a waste, as is Reaper/Kage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Purple Posted September 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - 黎明' timestamp='1348353538' post='6029948'] There's a card, Firedance something that will let you search Kaust, get on that. BLS is a waste, as is Reaper/Kage. [/quote]i know the card you are talking about, i would have never thought of that. Also I have gotten some good summons out of Kagetokage when i had no other Constellar Monsters in hand to get the Constellar Xyz Monsters. He also makes the Shock Master or Utopia easier to get out when I don't want to use another Constellar Monster. BLS was just a bonus if my Xyz gets solemned when i have the Kagetokage or Spirit Reaper as a material, If sangan goes to the Graveyard, etc. Spirit Reaper was really just added in as defense incase i needed to get more Constellars in hand. However, that Firedance Spell intrigues me. I might test that out and see how it fits in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I'm not a Constellar expert, and I run a Beast-type variant of it, but I'm not sure on the Super Rebirth: Yeah, you basically use this card to Xyz Summon a monster, but I find the no-Battle Phase cost really harsh when you could be pushing for game. Also, I am not a fan of Duality because with Constellars you can Special Summon a monster anytime, even at turn 1 starting with an Omega/Pleaides/Ptolemys, gaining the upper hand in the duel. Instead, I would suggest more Starsigns which, since you will be able to Special Summon a Constellar at any turn, will become at least a +0, and if the Spells survives then they start generating advantage. And with Xyz Reborn, you can Special Summon a Constellar during your opponent's turn and get to draw a card. To compensate Duality, you can try the Firedance card mentioned by Expelsword, or you could add a Sheratan for the searching effect. Replace 1 Prison with a Bottomless: In my opinion, it is better to remove at the Summon than at the attack, and if the opponent activates MST/Heavy Storm, you cannot chain either card anyways. You can also get rid of a Monster Card, to get both to the preferred 40-Card Deck and also balance monsters with Spell/Traps, but an Spell/Trap if your choice can go out and in theory it should work just fine. Personally, I would remove the Reaper, because with the Kages and Constellars you should have constant field presence. Then, you are running a lot of Trap Cards, a Quick Play and Starsign(s) (if you choose to follow the suggestion); running Starlight Road/Revolution is Over would be wise. Some people suggest 2 Starlights, or combine 1 of them with a Dark Bribe. Personally I would go for Revolution and Bribe, as the Extra Deck is tight enough to include an Stardust Dragon that would conflict with Gozen Match (see below), but you could try 2 Revolutions if you dislike giving any kind of advantage to the opponent. Again, personally I would get rid of the remaining Prison and then either a Bottomless or the Book of Moon to include these. For the Side Deck: Cyber Dragons and Ghost Ships make easy Rank 5 Xyz with Kaust, you could include 1 or 2 of those. And now that you run CyDra(s), throw a Chimeratech Fortress Dragon as well for countering Machine Decks. Another monster you could side is Leonis: makes Rank 3s with Sheratan, and even allows you to potentially Summon 4 Constellars in a turn (Pollux->Leonis->Gredi->Level 4 Constellar). Since you have mostly LIGHTs in both Deck and Extra Deck, make sure you include at least 2 Gozen Match and 2 Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror; I believe the Mirror won't affect your Kages, but it will affect Sangan and Reaper; but then again you could replace your DARKs with other LIGHTs from the Side fo the 2nd duel in the Match. Macro Cosmos/Dimensional Fissures would go well as well as you barely use your Graveyard, except for BLS and Ghost Ships (unless you choose to stick with Super Rebirths), and with Fissure detached monsters will still end in the grave. Finally, for the Extra Deck: a Hyades should be a must, as you never know when you will end up in a tight spot with Sheratan and Schet/Kaust on field, which you can Xyz to Hyades and then to Ptolemys, summoning the beatstick you might desperately need and potentially activating Starsign(s) on field. In conclusion: -1 Reaper -2 Super Rebirth -1 Duality -1/2 Prison -1 Book of Moon (optional) -1 Thunder Charger (How do you exactly use this card? Pleaides can become Ptolemys, and overlaying this over Ptolemys would be a waste) +1 Firedance/Sheratan +3 Starsign (1 from Dide Deck) +1 Bottomless +1 Huge Revolution is Over +1 Dark Bribe +1 Hyades (from Side Deck) Side: -1 Starsign (to Main Deck) -1 Constellar Belt: The opponent will most likely destroy your monster than negate its effect; and if they throw a Veiler or Fiendish Chain, that's a -1 for them (when your monster is removed from the field for the latter) -1 Hyades (to Extra Deck) +2 Gozen Match +2 Shadow Imprison Mirror +2 Macro Cosmos/Dimensional Fissure +1/2 Ghost Ship +1/2 Cyber Dragon +1 Chimeratech Fortress Dragon +1/2 Leonis (optional) Hope this helps. P.D. Sorry of the long post: I thought it was going to be short but I kept adding details. EDIT: The post is long enough, but I want to make 1 more suggestion: Include at least 1 Rank4 and Rank5 DARK monsters: They can help with the Summon of BLS in a pinch. For Rank5 Adreus is pretty much your only choice, but for the Rank4 both Maestroke and Blackship of Corn are good options. Unfortunately, I don't know what you could remove to add those two: Perhaps a Paladius and a Ptolemys? (I doubt you get to Summon the 3 Ptolemys in a duel). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Firedance - Tenki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Purple Posted September 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 [quote name='Frex' timestamp='1348462980' post='6030800'] I'm not a Constellar expert, and I run a Beast-type variant of it, but I'm not sure on the Super Rebirth: Yeah, you basically use this card to Xyz Summon a monster, but I find the no-Battle Phase cost really harsh when you could be pushing for game. Also, I am not a fan of Duality because with Constellars you can Special Summon a monster anytime, even at turn 1 starting with an Omega/Pleaides/Ptolemys, gaining the upper hand in the duel. Instead, I would suggest more Starsigns which, since you will be able to Special Summon a Constellar at any turn, will become at least a +0, and if the Spells survives then they start generating advantage. And with Xyz Reborn, you can Special Summon a Constellar during your opponent's turn and get to draw a card. To compensate Duality, you can try the Firedance card mentioned by Expelsword, or you could add a Sheratan for the searching effect. Replace 1 Prison with a Bottomless: In my opinion, it is better to remove at the Summon than at the attack, and if the opponent activates MST/Heavy Storm, you cannot chain either card anyways. You can also get rid of a Monster Card, to get both to the preferred 40-Card Deck and also balance monsters with Spell/Traps, but an Spell/Trap if your choice can go out and in theory it should work just fine. Personally, I would remove the Reaper, because with the Kages and Constellars you should have constant field presence. Then, you are running a lot of Trap Cards, a Quick Play and Starsign(s) (if you choose to follow the suggestion); running Starlight Road/Revolution is Over would be wise. Some people suggest 2 Starlights, or combine 1 of them with a Dark Bribe. Personally I would go for Revolution and Bribe, as the Extra Deck is tight enough to include an Stardust Dragon that would conflict with Gozen Match (see below), but you could try 2 Revolutions if you dislike giving any kind of advantage to the opponent. Again, personally I would get rid of the remaining Prison and then either a Bottomless or the Book of Moon to include these. For the Side Deck: Cyber Dragons and Ghost Ships make easy Rank 5 Xyz with Kaust, you could include 1 or 2 of those. And now that you run CyDra(s), throw a Chimeratech Fortress Dragon as well for countering Machine Decks. Another monster you could side is Leonis: makes Rank 3s with Sheratan, and even allows you to potentially Summon 4 Constellars in a turn (Pollux->Leonis->Gredi->Level 4 Constellar). Since you have mostly LIGHTs in both Deck and Extra Deck, make sure you include at least 2 Gozen Match and 2 Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror; I believe the Mirror won't affect your Kages, but it will affect Sangan and Reaper; but then again you could replace your DARKs with other LIGHTs from the Side fo the 2nd duel in the Match. Macro Cosmos/Dimensional Fissures would go well as well as you barely use your Graveyard, except for BLS and Ghost Ships (unless you choose to stick with Super Rebirths), and with Fissure detached monsters will still end in the grave. Finally, for the Extra Deck: a Hyades should be a must, as you never know when you will end up in a tight spot with Sheratan and Schet/Kaust on field, which you can Xyz to Hyades and then to Ptolemys, summoning the beatstick you might desperately need and potentially activating Starsign(s) on field. In conclusion: -1 Reaper -2 Super Rebirth -1 Duality -1/2 Prison -1 Book of Moon (optional) -1 Thunder Charger (How do you exactly use this card? Pleaides can become Ptolemys, and overlaying this over Ptolemys would be a waste) +1 Firedance/Sheratan +3 Starsign (1 from Dide Deck) +1 Bottomless +1 Huge Revolution is Over +1 Dark Bribe +1 Hyades (from Side Deck) Side: -1 Starsign (to Main Deck) -1 Constellar Belt: The opponent will most likely destroy your monster than negate its effect; and if they throw a Veiler or Fiendish Chain, that's a -1 for them (when your monster is removed from the field for the latter) -1 Hyades (to Extra Deck) +2 Gozen Match +2 Shadow Imprison Mirror +2 Macro Cosmos/Dimensional Fissure +1/2 Ghost Ship +1/2 Cyber Dragon +1 Chimeratech Fortress Dragon +1/2 Leonis (optional) Hope this helps. P.D. Sorry of the long post: I thought it was going to be short but I kept adding details. EDIT: The post is long enough, but I want to make 1 more suggestion: Include at least 1 Rank4 and Rank5 DARK monsters: They can help with the Summon of BLS in a pinch. For Rank5 Adreus is pretty much your only choice, but for the Rank4 both Maestroke and Blackship of Corn are good options. Unfortunately, I don't know what you could remove to add those two: Perhaps a Paladius and a Ptolemys? (I doubt you get to Summon the 3 Ptolemys in a duel). [/quote] I've actually managed to get two in one duel (Ptolemys) Anyway I do hear what you are saying. To be honest, the deck was made in a couple of minutes and I really do want this deck to be a lot faster and more efficient. The Thunder Charger was just a test to see if I would actually need it (which after today, I find out he is taking up a slot in the extra deck.) After reading the starsign I had this feeling I shouldn't run too many for fear of it being a dead card in an opening hand, but I might just try out 3 to see how it runs. I like starlight road much better than huge rev. so that would be an obvious choice. I have seen the firedance spell card and I personally would have no problem running the card (acts as buff and search. What's not to love?) Btw, I don't have constellar belt, thats Photon Veil, and yes I know that card is pointless because I would never run it either lol. And I do agree with the side deck because I really just threw it together with little to no thought. I will take these suggestions into consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpectralMaliceX Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Take out bls, sangan, spirit reaper, and 2 kage. Put in another veiler, 2 ghost ship, sheratan, schet. Take out 2 super rebirth. Put in 2 starsign of the constellar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Purple Posted September 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 [quote name='SpectralMaliceX' timestamp='1348477819' post='6030912'] Take out bls, sangan, spirit reaper, and 2 kage. Put in another veiler, 2 ghost ship, sheratan, schet. Take out 2 super rebirth. Put in 2 starsign of the constellar. [/quote]i can't put 4 schets (although that would be nice lol) The starsign I'm also already going to try at 3 as I said already But I'm going to try Frex's Suggestion first and will also take your suggestions into consideration as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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