Banning majorly hated members. [LOCK]

[Guest Devil's Advocate]

I think you've forgotten that...

 

 

 

So what? This is a free f***ing country. He hasn't done anything to actively attack anyone. Everyone just ignore him and move on with their lives; is that really so difficult, or do you HAVE to have that feeling of superiority with your peers?

[Dr. Cakey]

So what? This is a free f***ing country. He hasn't done anything to actively attack anyone. Everyone just ignore him and move on with their lives; is that really so difficult, or do you HAVE to have that feeling of superiority with your peers?

Question: If there is a member posting from North Korea, China, or Syria, does this mean that they have immigrated to America?

 

Yes. Trolling. But "it's a free country" is a meaningless statement on the internet.

[Stan Alda]

Considering I only have 850-odd posts, I'm technically not supposed to be involved in this. But I do support Wynn's idea, if only because I can guarantee there will be real problem members in the future that can't be covered by the existing rules. I also think it democratizes (or at least spreads) the power of banning to more people. There had better be mods involved, though.

[FTW (For The Wynn)]

I'm probably going to break about a thousand taboos here, but I remember there being a lot of heated debate over ragnarok getting banned for basically this idea. I know, there was something about him "breaking the rules" in there, but it was basically this idea. And, if we look back, we could probably see it happen numerous times throughout YCM history. Except, in most of those cases, it was just a few guys who disliked a member and had him banned. This would be more formal, allow for a chance to prove a point, and help explain bans better to people who question them.

[ihop]

Ragnarok wasn't stupid, he just posted similar comments in every single RC card and eventually people decided he wasn't contributing, nor was he trying to contribute, to the community. Herman does try, he's just an idiot and he can't be banned for that.

[Strider Tigerwolf]

If memory serves, Ragnorak was a "spammer" which is why he was banned. All the spam didn't look like spam, but it was because the content was somewhat like the following:

 

Post 1: Talks about Salt.

Post 2: Talks about Salt...and a little bit of water.

Post 3: Talks about Salt...and a little bit of your mom.

Post 4: Talks about Salt...and a little bit of (should I really keep going?)

 

Herman...he posts stupidity in which he's obliviously consulting to obtaining negative feedback (basically he's in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong people ALL the time) AND HE KNOWS IT! Such types of behavior is bad for forums where interaction is seen 99% of the time as it steers people into copious, degrading, rage-filled arguments that should never have taken place in the first place unless it's in an educative or formal fashion, of which I have yet to see being done with Herman.

[Guest Thunder Spark]

honestly one of the stupidest ideas I've ever heard in my life

 

if you don't like someone in your city do you just get a group of people together and kick them out?

 

if a member is following the rules and abiding by it no less, just skip it and move on. they have just as much of a right to be here as anyone else imo

[Agro]

lol "neutral on the subject"

 

I support as long as I'm not hated.

 

if you don't like someone in your city do you just get a group of people together and kick them out?

Depends on where you live, in the US.

[Guest Devil's Advocate]

Agro, I hate you. Let's advocate to have him banned.

 

Kidding of course, but that sort of thing just doesn't fly here.

[Guest Thunder Spark]

fair enough but i mean in the grand scheme of things

 

its just stupid to think something like this would be implemented when we can't even fix the alignment on the card maker

 

besides if there's someone you don't like ignore them and eventually if everyone continues to ignore them they'll just leave because they're not getting the attention they want

[Agro]

its just stupid to think something like this would be implemented when we can't even fix the alignment on the card maker

OH, OH. I can answer this one.

 

It's not stupid because this can actually get done without an Admin.

[Guest .Rai]

In the General section, it's often that a topic gets locked for being controversial but since Herman only makes posts really, does he avoid this? In any case, it really depends whether we consider one's posts spam for being illiterate, unreadable, uninformed and ignorant of all other posts in a topic.

[Guest God Machismo!!!!!]

Just because Herman is a nuisance (which surprises me why Rag are that kazu person are both banned, but Herman gets to skip around and piss people off) doesn't mean we should add rules letting the community ban people they don't like. It's a slippery slope to a forum where people are afraid to post what they think because a widely-respected member could just rally the community to ban the person.

 

While I do like the idea of the community also being able to vote to unban members who we feel may not have deserved it, I can't support this. There is too much potential for chaos and abuse, and it gives the community mod powers without the key to the armory.

[Guest ~10~]

There is too much potential for chaos and abuse, and it gives the community mod powers without the key to the armory.

I agree with Machismo on this, because we don't need any more chaos.

[Guest .Rai]

Considering the number of infractions Herman /seems/ to have regarding the Realistic Cards Advanced Clause, should he not be banned anyway?

[Guest ~10~]

Considering the number of infractions Herman /seems/ to have regarding the Realistic Cards Advanced Clause, should he not be banned anyway?

EDIT: not yet

[Mehmani]

Your argument, my friend, is that someone who is disliked deserves to be banned for "rubbing people up the wrong way." It's an unpleasant suggestion and leads me to increasingly conclude that you have a "Dalek complex" - your high intelligence making you treat the less intelligent (or via the medium of the internet, the less grammatically inclined) as inferior, which in turn creates a superiority complex. In other words, you think you're better than him, and therefore he warrants a ban. When I was a child, I used to feel the same way. You need some self-awareness, and dare-I-say-it, some more maturity. Step back and see what you are suggesting. It's internet eugenics, and eugenics is disgusting.

 

Herman has broken the Advanced Clause twice, with both infractions two weeks apart. I sent him a PM yesterday explaining that everyone that was getting angry with him was not trolling him (I roll my eyes at this point) and that a way to rectify this would be simply to improve his syntax and grammar. I'm sure that all of you typed like idiots when you first joined this place. I certainly did, and there should be no shame in admitting to that. Herman is harmless, and I actually quite like him. Give him a chance to improve his grammar. He isn't totally ignorant of the game. I don't mind someone intelligent like Darkplant or Xander Royce giving someone a dressing down, but the way you have all turned into a virtual lynch mob isn't at all nice. Just take a look at yourselves, and think.

[Guest Reborn Black]

Herman has broken the Advanced Clause twice, with both infractions two weeks apart.

Just stepping in to say, he broke the old advanced clause REPEATEDLY. I warned him at least 5 times, if not 10 times, for it, and he got postlocked for a little at least twice, iirc.

 

But this idea isn't a good one. I understand the idea behind it, buuut...

[Lunar Origins]

Supporting, for more reasons than one.

[Agro]

Weren't a few people banned just for being detriments to the community?

[JadenxAtemYAOI]

Or we could all handle things maturely and remember the internet doesn't affect us in our real lives.The problem with your idea is that it could be easily abused. With yours, I could just as easily round 50 inactive users with 800-1000 posts and asks them to be active then vote for you. See how bad that is? Even then, people will ask for the idea to be progressed and modified so people like me that aren't really competitive will be banned then the certain deck users, the bronies and so on. Just because someone is negative doesn't mean they should be banned. I can name quite a few negative members that are hostile towards many others that deserve it more but will I press for it? No. You speak of a community that needs positiveness but forget that in every community, everyone has right to their own opinion, even Herman. YCM can be seen as a Christian vs Atheist community. Does that mean we should start banning the Atheists because they're non-believers? I can go on and on why this is a bad idea.

 

Note: I was harassed by Aximil for months and never pressed for his ban. What does that tell you?

[Garthfunkle Vii Backwards]

i do try to improve my grammar/sentrax (whatever that is will google that i supose)

 

just for the record on paper

 

english101 / gramar / spelling is not my fort'e i type fast so i have to re edit to correct that with anything

 

as you can see in my last few threads in r/c there's improvement

 

im improving all the time there people who just want to keep people down see them as targets

 

im also very big on making unique material

 

people catch me while i'm editing my threads/post

 

i mostly likely have the rank of number 1 on the greatest output in rc but due to the fact that im "left brain" there certains things i accel at then the stuff i lack in and requires inprovement

 

many people accel at certain subjects but need help in other

 

right brain people accel in english gramar but are poor in math

 

alot to take to conseration but people fail to do so and will post ranom hate

 

im not mad just want them to stop as it is not good for the forum

 

people have problems there no need to point it out and make a public freak show over it

 

you do not see me post random hate i allways take in conseration other people's situation

 

i do try to improve on my faults as all should

 

to error is human

 

even genuises have their faults one famous rumor that as smart as albert einstein was he was unable to learn to tie his own shoe appearntly thats why he's always shown wearing slipper like shoes where does not need to tie them

 

perfection is a mad man's fanasty

 

perfection is inperfection as any human or thing of human will never be perfect

 

we can not change the past but we can allways improve the future

[Guest ~10~]

i do try to improve my grammar/sentrax (whatever that is will google that i supose)

 

just for the record on paper

 

english101 / gramar / spelling is not my fort'e i type fast so i have to re edit to correct that with anything

 

as you can see in my last few threads in r/c there's improvement

 

im improving all the time there people who just want to keep people down see them as targets

 

im also very big on making unique material

 

people catch me while i'm editing my threads/post

 

i mostly likely have the rank of number 1 on the greatest output in rc but due to the fact that im "left brain" there certains things i accel at then the stuff i lack in and requires inprovement

 

many people accel at certain subjects but need help in other

 

right brain people accel in english gramar but are poor in math

 

alot to take to conseration but people fail to do so and will post ranom hate

 

im not mad just want them to stop as it is not good for the forum

 

people have problems there no need to point it out and make a public freak show over it

 

you do not see me post random hate i allways take in conseration other people's situation

 

i do try to improve on my faults as all should

 

to error is human

 

even genuises have their faults one famous rumor that as smart as albert einstein was he was unable to learn to tie his own shoe appearntly thats why he's always shown wearing slipper like shoes where does not need to tie them

 

perfection is a mad man's fanasty

 

perfection is inperfection as any human or thing of human will never be perfect

 

we can not change the past but we can allways improve the future

Herman, No Offence, but I can hardly understand what you just said.

[Lunar Origins]

-Sighs.-

 

Herman, I do think that you would be more accepted among us if you used proper grammar.

 

I will take it upon myself to teach you if you need it; and, if you don't want any help, I'm fine with that, but I'm starting to get everything.

[DARKPLANT RISING]

Herman, No Offence, but I can hardly understand what you just said.

This.

 

Given the amount of disagreements I'm fine with this thread being closed down, but at least Herman should write normally.

 

If I misspell something, I'll go fix it BEFORE posting. Before posting, I check once or twice for spelling/grammar errors, and that's what you should do.

 

The Left Brain/Right Brain argument is, first of all, pointless as we're not that extreme. Even if it was as true as you say, it wouldn't be an excuse for not doing that, you know. We're talking about being careful, which doesn't require both sides of the brain.

 

To error is normal, but you're not trying to fix it as much as you can. If you're really trying hard to improve grammar and spelling, you should be using Word to post replies. Given you're not doing that, you don't have the right to say it's a necesarry evil.