D.A._Sakuyamon Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 [img]https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/326904_242316695891691_1495665801_o.jpg[/img] I only run one deck on DN and this is it, I'v got about a 50/50 win rate with wins slightly higher then losses. Thoughts on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Lose Goldds. Lose Bait Dolls. Add 3 Dragged Downs. Add 1 Book. I always find the level 5s clogging like hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted September 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 [quote name='Grapha Demon Lord of Sexy' timestamp='1347381444' post='6023273'] Lose Goldds. Lose Bait Dolls. Add 3 Dragged Downs. Add 1 Book. I always find the level 5s clogging like hell. [/quote] Ehh bait doll is a personal choice that I figured would be pointed out I'm going to keep it. I don't like book or dragged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Dragged is amazing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted September 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 [quote name='Grapha Demon Lord of Sexy' timestamp='1347382212' post='6023278'] Dragged is amazing though. [/quote] Yeah, it is good but like with bait it's a personal choice thing. Just not that big of a fan of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 That's like saying Tourguide in Rabbit is personal choice. The Deck won't play without Draggeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Don't come for deck advice if you aren't going to take it >_> Unless you don't want to win Book is optional but Dragged is a near-must. Raven is awful here and always has been. nothing to add that hasn't already been covered by someone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 I play DW. Level 5s do clog, though I suppose you can side maybe 1 of both in casual play virus deck. Dragged Downs are not arguable. They are a must have on about 99% of all Dark World decks next to Dealings. Here's my option for you: [img]http://i.imgur.com/I6Zxv.png[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 You only need 1 Beiige, and to add what other people have said, why are you not running Reckless Greeds / Upstart Goblins? EDIT: Welp, this is what I get for typing too long. So yeah, pretty much the deck posted above is the optimal build you would want to run, other than the random One Day of Peace and [b]2[/b] Upstart Goblins. *barf* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1347389686' post='6023348'] You only need 1 Beiige, and to add what other people have said, why are you not running Reckless Greeds / Upstart Goblins? EDIT: Welp, this is what I get for typing too long. So yeah, pretty much the deck posted above is the optimal build you would want to run, other than the random One Day of Peace and [b]2[/b] Upstart Goblins. *barf* [/quote] I want to post argument against burn decks, but this is not the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted September 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 [quote name='Kabasaurus' timestamp='1347386232' post='6023308'] That's like saying Tourguide in Rabbit is personal choice. The Deck won't play without Draggeds. [/quote] You say that but it does. [quote name='Nightmare Zarkus' timestamp='1347388471' post='6023326'] Don't come for deck advice if you aren't going to take it >_> Unless you don't want to win Book is optional but Dragged is a near-must. Raven is awful here and always has been. nothing to add that hasn't already been covered by someone else [/quote] Raven isn't bad but it's not great I'll admit. But it has it's moments for me. [quote name='Chance Furlong' timestamp='1347389542' post='6023346'] I play DW. Level 5s do clog, though I suppose you can side maybe 1 of both in casual play virus deck. Dragged Downs are not arguable. They are a must have on about 99% of all Dark World decks next to Dealings. Here's my option for you: [img]http://i.imgur.com/I6Zxv.png[/img] [/quote] Has to little monsters for me to like. :\ Also, it's arguable for me cause I don't want to run it. [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1347389686' post='6023348'] You only need 1 Beiige, and to add what other people have said, why are you not running Reckless Greeds / Upstart Goblins? EDIT: Welp, this is what I get for typing too long. So yeah, pretty much the deck posted above is the optimal build you would want to run, other than the random One Day of Peace and [b]2[/b] Upstart Goblins. *barf* [/quote] Cause I don't want to run them........... Along with the above deck would Gorz be an appropriate replacement for the beiige? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 [quote name='♥ D.A._Endermen ♥' timestamp='1347392009' post='6023386'] Raven isn't bad but it's not great I'll admit. But it has it's moments for me. [/quote] Yes, it's bad. Trance is better in almost every way here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Gorz looks really dead to me with 3 Gates and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 [quote name='♥ D.A._Endermen ♥' timestamp='1347392009' post='6023386'] Has to little monsters for me to like. :\ Also, it's arguable for me cause I don't want to run it. Cause I don't want to run them........... [/quote] [img]http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/006/707/nothing-to-do-here-template.jpg.scaled500.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Oh for the love of God at least run Dragged Down, that card is soo much good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted September 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Tell you what, I'll make a new deck and try out Furlongs build (with the inclusion of bait doll...). Not going to add the sides though cause i don't side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1347389686' post='6023348'] You only need 1 Beiige [/quote] 2 Beiige is actually decent. Gives you an extra one so you can blow the other with gates if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted September 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Tried out the build and thought it was okay. Wasn't my cup of tea though tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 [quote name='Nightmare Zarkus' timestamp='1347388471' post='6023326'] Don't come for deck advice if you aren't going to take it >_> Unless you don't want to win [/quote] [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1347397287' post='6023444'] [img]http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/006/707/nothing-to-do-here-template.jpg.scaled500.jpg[/img] [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 The reason people are saying Dragged down, is beucase it lets you see your opponents hand on top of the other things.... Why wouldn't you want to know what your opponent could be planning? Sometimes effectiveness wieghs over personal preference. Also, there are better options than Highlander in your extra IMO. of course, it depends on how easy you can make Level 8's. Since things like Collasal Fighter are probaby a better option in my view. Also, you have some Rank 4's, but no Utopia, Pearl or Maestroke? Drop one each fo the ranks 5's for them. Since, you are only likely to make one of each in a duel as it stands. And Rank 5's with No overlay ontop of a Rank 5 or 6 whos name I forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 [quote name='Archbaron Barthandelus' timestamp='1347470698' post='6023898'] Also, there are better options than Highlander in your extra IMO. of course, it depends on how easy you can make Level 8's. Since things like Collasal Fighter are probaby a better option in my view. [/quote] Highlander is lvl 7 and shuts down an entire mechanic. If he's gonna have Raven he's gonna have a Highlander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted September 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 [quote name='Archbaron Barthandelus' timestamp='1347470698' post='6023898'] The reason people are saying Dragged down, is beucase it lets you see your opponents hand on top of the other things.... Why wouldn't you want to know what your opponent could be planning? Sometimes effectiveness wieghs over personal preference. Also, there are better options than Highlander in your extra IMO. of course, it depends on how easy you can make Level 8's. Since things like Collasal Fighter are probaby a better option in my view. Also, you have some Rank 4's, but no Utopia, Pearl or Maestroke? Drop one each fo the ranks 5's for them. Since, you are only likely to make one of each in a duel as it stands. And Rank 5's with No overlay ontop of a Rank 5 or 6 whos name I forget. [/quote] Well, simple because my opp gets to see my hand as well. The two times I actually activated drag (while testing furlongs build) I had to set everything in my hand Just so my opp. could hit grapha sense it was the only monster I had. Setting everything I had hurt me pretty bad on one of those two cause opp. heavyed. None of the set cards was reasonable to keep in my hand either. That of course brings me to the my next point which I knew (for me) would be a problem. Lack of monsters. "I" need to be able to have some monsters other wise I start to fall behind. Yes, reckless and upstarts are nice for some quick deck thinners and hand hand advantages but If I can't get anything summoned then I'm just a sitting duck. One thing I will say though. My build is old and by old I mean -Upgrades for DW were just coming out of japan- old. I realize you guys are trying to help me. I get that but I'm pretty dam behind on the meta. So don't take it personally when i shoot down your ideas. Also, I didn't run drag back when the upgrades came out either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 [quote name='♥ D.A._Endermen ♥' timestamp='1347481462' post='6023972'] Well, simple because my opp gets to see my hand as well. The two times I actually activated drag (while testing furlongs build) I had to set everything in my hand Just so my opp. could hit grapha sense it was the only monster I had. Setting everything I had hurt me pretty bad on one of those two cause opp. heavyed. None of the set cards was reasonable to keep in my hand either. [/quote] ...you're supposed to set everything to only have Grapha in hand if you're going to make a Grapha play. And you're a fool if you actually left those cards face-down in the first place if they weren't trap cards / quick-play spell cards. [quote name='♥ D.A._Endermen ♥' timestamp='1347481462' post='6023972'] That of course brings me to the my next point which I knew (for me) would be a problem. Lack of monsters. "I" need to be able to have some monsters other wise I start to fall behind. Yes, reckless and upstarts are nice for some quick deck thinners and hand hand advantages but If I can't get anything summoned then I'm just a sitting duck. [/quote] So you'd rather have more monster than have 6 cards that thin out your deck to get you to your win condition? Again: [img]http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/006/707/nothing-to-do-here-template.jpg.scaled500.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted September 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1347483383' post='6023995'] ...you're supposed to set everything to only have Grapha in hand if you're going to make a Grapha play. And you're a fool if you actually left those cards face-down in the first place if they weren't trap cards / quick-play spell cards. So you'd rather have more monster than have 6 cards that thin out your deck to get you to your win condition? Again: [img]http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/006/707/nothing-to-do-here-template.jpg.scaled500.jpg[/img] [/quote] I couldn't do anything with the stuff I set. They would have just been a waste. Whats the point if I can't even draw my win condition despite having all of those draws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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