sonicfan#78 Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 I have constructed a basic D-Hero deck, tell me what you think of it. Also, I have no Side Deck because I suck at siding, so if somebody could please help me with that, you would be more awesome than you already were And if anybody wants to help me add to my Extra Deck, feel free to comment on it! 3RD EDIT: Monsters x19: Dark Armed Dragon x1 Destiny Hero - Dasher x1 Deep Sea Diva x2 King of the Swamp x1 Destiny Hero - Diamond Dude x2[img]C:/8VSdc.png[/img] Destiny Hero - Doom Lord x2 Destiny Hero - Malicious x2 Destiny Hero - Plasma x2 Destiny Hero - Dogma x2 Snowman Eater x1 Elemental Hero Prisma x1 Elemental Hero Ocean x1 Elemental Hero Stratos x1 Spells x15: Fusion Gate x2 Allure of Darkness x1 Dark Hole x1 Monster Reborn x1 Destiny Draw x3 Miracle Fusion x3 Polymerization x3 Mystical Space Typhoon x1 The Warrior Returning Alive x1 Reinforcement of the Army x1 Traps x6: Mirror Force x1 Bottomless Trap Hole x2 Dimensional Prison x1 Extra Deck x6: Destiny End Dragoon x3 Elemental Hero Absolute Zero x3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabber2033 Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 -2 Dasher -2 Defender -1 Dreadmaster -1 Clock Tower -1 Warrior Returning -1 D-Shield -1 Fusion Gate -1 DSignal +3 King of the Swamp +1 Destiny Hero Plasma +1 Mystical Space Typhoon +1 Heavy Storm +1 Destiny Draw +1 Scapegoat +2 Torrential Tribute King of the Swamp Searches Polymerization; and D-Draw should be maxed. Heavy Storm is staple as is double Torrential Tribute. A second MST provides for more backrow hate. Scapegoat works wonders with Plasma. Not too bad otherwise. Just needs to focus more on Dragoon than on the other D-Heros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 @Jabber: you missed a card - 1 Future Fusion (It's banned as of today) maybe you could: + 1 D Prison? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicfan#78 Posted September 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 @Jabber Dasher: Their ability in the grave lets you summon pretty quickly. Defender: Good stall monster, though I might take one of them out. Dreadmaster: I want to have at least one for the Clock Tower Prison, though I could see why you would take it out. Clock Tower Prison: Very good stall card, I'm not taking this out. Warrior Returning: It has a purpose - To "recycle" my Heroes, and bring them back to my hand after I have used them. D-Shield: Perfect for keeping some heroes on the field. Fusion Gate: Acts as multiple polymerizations, I don't see any good reason to take this out and replace it with a King of the Swamp. D-Signal: Basically has a Masked Dragon eff, but only for D-Heroes, and only Level 4 and under. Since Future Fusion is banned, I will add a Heavy Storm to my deck. By the way, D-Draw is semi-limited. My deck isn't supposed to be a dragoon deck, I'm focusing on my whole deck, not just one card. (Absolute Zero, Dreadmaster, Plasma, Dogma) @British Really? Was Future Fusion really banned? -.- That annoys me dearly. I'll probably add one of the cards that Jabber mentioned. (Like a Heavy Storm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 If you are running triple King of the Swamp, you'd want to add one or two Miracle Fusion to bring AB 0 more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 [quote name='sonicfan#78' timestamp='1346498669' post='6017184'] By the way, D-Draw is semi-limited. [/quote] D-Draw is at 3 this format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicfan#78 Posted September 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 [quote name='Wildflame' timestamp='1346501172' post='6017196'] If you are running triple King of the Swamp, you'd want to add one or two Miracle Fusion to bring AB 0 more often. [/quote] I might be running double king of the swamp, but my Elemental Hero Ocean can keep bringing heroes back form my grave. [quote name='~British Soul~' timestamp='1346501926' post='6017199'] D-Draw is at 3 this format. [/quote] Oh, I just saw the ban list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 [quote name='sonicfan#78' timestamp='1346509319' post='6017237'] Oh, I just saw the ban list. [/quote] That was why Jabber suggesting adding another D-Draw because he was aware of the new list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicfan#78 Posted September 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 [quote name='~British Soul~' timestamp='1346509790' post='6017243'] That was why Jabber suggesting adding another D-Draw because he was aware of the new list. [/quote] Yeah, I took out the banned Future Fusion, and have added in another Destiny Draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 [quote name='sonicfan#78' timestamp='1346509999' post='6017245'] Yeah, I took out the banned Future Fusion, and have added in another Destiny Draw. [/quote] That was a smart decision imo. To help: So that other people don't suggest (- Future Fusion, it's banned) have you considered editiing the changes that you have made into the first post? [size=1]answer without quoting[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Defender, Dreadmaster, and Dasher are garbage in this deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicfan#78 Posted September 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 [quote name='~British Soul~' timestamp='1346510528' post='6017247'] That was a smart decision imo. To help: So that other people don't suggest (- Future Fusion, it's banned) have you considered editiing the changes that you have made into the first post? [size=1]answer without quoting[/size] [/quote] Yes, I will after I have tested the edits and found out the results. [quote name='Expelsword - 黎明' timestamp='1346510661' post='6017250'] Defender, Dreadmaster, and Dasher are garbage in this deck. [/quote] I do not think that Defender and Dasher are garbage, they can bring out monsters easily and can stall pretty easily. Dreadmaster, though, I will take out as it serves no point other than what is left after my Clock Tower Prison effect activates, which probably won't even happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 What does Dasher really summon that helps you? And Defender helps the opponent too much now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 [quote name='sonicfan#78' timestamp='1346512661' post='6017271'] Yes, I will after I have tested the edits and found out the results. [/quote] [size=1]I said "WITHOUT QUOTING" in my last post, and you ignored it, so you are being quoted back[/size] I was saying editing the OP (first post) so that it didn't say 'Future Fusion' and says D Draw x 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicfan#78 Posted September 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 @British I have edited the picture and deck list. @Expelsword Dasher - Doesn't summon anything good in particular, though it summons out other monsters that have effects, and that can be used for tributes. Defender - Explain how it "helps the opponent too much now". That statement for defender didn't give me an answer, and I can add an appropriate if it helps. Dreadmaster - I have taken this out and replaced it with a King of the Swamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 [quote name='sonicfan#78' timestamp='1346544120' post='6017564'] @Expelsword Defender - Explain how it "helps the opponent too much now". That statement for defender didn't give me an answer, and I can add an appropriate if it helps. [/quote] Because nowadays, 1 card is about 25% of an OTK. Letting your opponent draw is asking to lose, and Appropriate does [b][i]NOT [/i][/b]go with this deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicfan#78 Posted September 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 @Expelsword I guess I didn't tell you: I use Defender almost as quickly as summon him out. So my opponent doesn't even have a chance to activate his effect. Also, instead of just telling me that Defender is garbage, tell me something that would be a suitable replacement for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 [quote name='sonicfan#78' timestamp='1346592292' post='6017813'] @Expelsword I guess I didn't tell you: I use Defender almost as quickly as summon him out. So my opponent doesn't even have a chance to activate his effect. Also, instead of just telling me that Defender is garbage, tell me something that would be a suitable replacement for him. [/quote] The only way you could use Defender quickly is if you use it either for fodder for Plasma or Dogma or you fuse it with Ocean. Either way, you don't have enough ways to use it "quickly", as you put it. But if you're going to insist running Defender, run at least 1 or more Blade Armor Ninja / Heroic Champion - Excalibur in your Extra for the time if you don't have anything to use it for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 [quote name='sonicfan#78' timestamp='1346592292' post='6017813'] @Expelsword I guess I didn't tell you: I use Defender almost as quickly as summon him out. So my opponent doesn't even have a chance to activate his effect. Also, instead of just telling me that Defender is garbage, tell me something that would be a suitable replacement for him. [/quote] Diamond Dude or Prisma. And D Signal sucks, try Over Destiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicfan#78 Posted September 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1346592952' post='6017814'] The only way you could use Defender quickly is if you use it either for fodder for Plasma or Dogma or you fuse it with Ocean. Either way, you don't have enough ways to use it "quickly", as you put it. But if you're going to insist running Defender, run at least 1 or more Blade Armor Ninja / Heroic Champion - Excalibur in your Extra for the time if you don't have anything to use it for. [/quote] Ok then, I will give it a shot. [quote name='Expelsword - 黎明' timestamp='1346593816' post='6017823'] Diamond Dude or Prisma. And D Signal sucks, try Over Destiny. [/quote] Ok, I'll take out 1 Defender and put in a Prisma. Same as before, how does D Signal suck? Gotta give me a reason why it sucks, otherwise you aren't really explaining anything to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 [quote name='sonicfan#78' timestamp='1346615511' post='6017986'] Ok, I'll take out 1 Defender and put in a Prisma. Same as before, how does D Signal suck? Gotta give me a reason why it sucks, otherwise you aren't really explaining anything to me. [/quote] Destiny Signal sucks because it requires you to have a monster you control to be destroyed by battle. It also sucks because it's a non-chainable trap, so in the case it gets MST'd / Storm'd, well, yeah. Destiny Signal especially sucks in a deck like this when you shouldn't even have monsters on the field that could be killed by battle. Anyways, if you actually want to win with a deck like this, you need to increase the number of water monsters in here and the number of Miracle Fusions. Ab0 should be 1 of your win conditions here, I mean, you're running 3 of it, and yet, you're not running enough ways to get it out. Drop Clock Tower Prison for another Miracle Fusion. Get rid of the Dasher's and the Defender for 3 Deep Sea Diva's. Also -2 Destiny Signal, +1 Miracle Fusion, and drop the Oceans for Snowman Eaters instead. EVEN if it can recycle heroes, it has to survive a turn on the field, and Snowman Eater can accomplish that. Pretty much, look at this video: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YspgNCOXjmM&feature=plcp[/media] Also, Fusion Gate @1? Highly inconsistent, don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicfan#78 Posted September 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 @Zanda I have kept one Ocean in my deck and replaced another with Snowman Eater. I have taken out Defender and 1 Dasher and added in two Deep Sea Divas. I've also taken out Clock Tower and added in a Miracle Fusion. I understood why D-Signal sucks, and I've replaced it with a Miracle Fusion and another Fusion Gate. Going to test this out on DN. EDIT: It works! Thank you so much! Now I need a side and extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicfan#78 Posted September 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 Ok then, I have tested your combo, and it has worked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 Few things: First of all, I'd drop Polymerization down to 0 (or 1 if you absolutely feel insistent on keeping it in). With Fusion Gate and Miracle Fusion, you don't [i]need[/i] Polymerization, and it's only going to lead to dead draws which the Deck cannot afford at all. I'd lose the Diamond Dudes, too. They're good in certain builds but you don't need them here and you could probably get more use out of maxing out Plasma and Dogma. I say that because then you can run Trade-In, giving you more speed, more consistency, and the ability to pitch dead cards in hand to grab more useful targets. On top of that, you should be maxing Torrential Tribute, especially because (at least I want to say I'm right on this), you can + off it with End Dragoon's effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 The problem is you're trying to run two variants at once. It's either Fusion Gate/Chain Material or Poly and Miracle for Absolute Zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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