JadenxAtemYAOI Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 Circulatory theories are theories based on nothing but the theory itself is supported by itself and the theory itself disproves all rebutalls. Examples like the Paranoia theory. The paranoia theory makes the hypothesis that every human being in this world has schizophrenia and that you are actually a monkey. Everything you know, feel, see, and everything else but the other monkeys you meet are a figment of your shizophrenia and created by it. You aren't on the internet right now. Your schizophrenia is just making you think you are. Discuss circulatory theories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 ...my head hurts. *twitches* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juuzou Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 God exists because the bible says so The bible is right because god says so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Lovegood Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 Circular. Circular theories. Circulatory theories are theories about the circulatory system in the human body. Come one guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 Everything I say is a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gαr Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 This reminds me of the Matrix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 Why is it when I search up "circulatory theory", "circular theory", "schizophrenia monkeys" and other similar search terms, I find nothing that you mention :/ You're basically talking about conspiracy theories then. And they're complete and utter nonsense. The fact that you can't disprove them seems wrong too. Taking the paranoia theory as an example: - If everything is a figment of your imagination, then the world is a blank canvas and you should be dead for not eating, drinking and stuff. - You would have to be the first generation because you can't reproduce successfully. Your babies would die from not eating and stuff. - If you weren't the first generation, I would find it extremely awkward for a species to survive (in the long term) if all of its members were schizophrenic. - You just said that I was a normal monkey and everyone else was a schizophrenic human. Why did you suddenly feel like turning me into a schizophrenic monkey in the second sentence? And if I am, why can't I be a human? Unless you've mistyped horrendously. - When has schizophrenia ever caused physical delusions? As far as I'm informed, schizophrenia (depending on the sufferer though) causes things like auditory and visual hallucinations. Not causing you to feel things like they're there. - Excuse me if this is offensive. Say I catch some awful fatal disease. So, it's apparently 'just my schizophrenia'. I die prematurely. I obviously didn't imagine that. Theorists, go have a rebuttal /happyface Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Welche Alt Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1345974095' post='6013136'] Why is it when I search up "circulatory theory", "circular theory", "schizophrenia monkeys" and other similar search terms, I find nothing that you mention :/ You're basically talking about conspiracy theories then. And they're complete and utter nonsense. The fact that you can't disprove them seems wrong too. Taking the paranoia theory as an example: - If everything is a figment of your imagination, then the world is a blank canvas and you should be dead for not eating, drinking and stuff. - You would have to be the first generation because you can't reproduce successfully. Your babies would die from not eating and stuff. - If you weren't the first generation, I would find it extremely awkward for a species to survive (in the long term) if all of its members were schizophrenic. - You just said that I was a normal monkey and everyone else was a schizophrenic human. Why did you suddenly feel like turning me into a schizophrenic monkey in the second sentence? And if I am, why can't I be a human? Unless you've mistyped horrendously. - When has schizophrenia ever caused physical delusions? As far as I'm informed, schizophrenia (depending on the sufferer though) causes things like auditory and visual hallucinations. Not causing you to feel things like they're there. - Excuse me if this is offensive. Say I catch some awful fatal disease. So, it's apparently 'just my schizophrenia'. I die prematurely. I obviously didn't imagine that. Theorists, go have a rebuttal /happyface [/quote] This is nothing like conspiracy theories. These are theories that are based in themselves. It is not a real thing, it is based on circular logic like saying "1+1=2 because 2-1=1 and 2-1=1 because 1+1=2". You proved nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 [quote name='Le Dolan' timestamp='1346004810' post='6013375'] This is nothing like conspiracy theories. These are theories that are based in themselves. It is not a real thing, it is based on circular logic like saying "1+1=2 because 2-1=1 and 2-1=1 because 1+1=2". You proved nothing. [/quote] In which case it's as equally as meh, because it provides you set a certain premise. Even if you can't disprove one, you can't prove it either. And I don't even understand how the theory in the OP is based on circular reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Welche Alt Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 As has already been seen, OP did not understand the concept they started a thread about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Lovegood Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 OP does not understand circular reasoning. He does not understand it because his example is bad. His example is bad because he does not understand circular reasoning. He does not understand it because his example is bad. His example is bad because he does not understand circular reasoning. He does not understand it because his example is bad. His example is bad because he does not understand circular reasoning. He does not understand it because his example is bad. His example is bad because he does not understand circular reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Welche Alt Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 The superior example would be OP doesn't understand because he did not research, but he didn't do any research because he thought he understood. Why did he think he understood? Because he did no research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 So we are talking about logic paradoxes in part? My reality is a dream and my dream is a reality? Stuff where the one comment makes it the second which makes it the first and carries on infinately. Like this statement is a lie. If it is a lie, then it means you have lied making it true,, whcih makes it a lie. And so on. I don't know any fancy technical terms or theories about them, I just like trying to think of some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 Believing in them or not makes no difference on your current outcome. I'm not challenging thinking outside of the box (I would personally love for all of my life to basically be a Virtual Reality game) but sometimes it reaches a point were you have to make the distinction between what you are willing to accept as a plausible theory and what is simply a bunch of "what if?"s. For Atheists, that distinction is a bit stricter than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?someone? Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Man, my head is mildly tingly now. >: | reminds me of those people who think the government is spying on them, take a video of f*** all and then demonstrate it as proof. Did I get it right? Of course, if you live in London, chances are you've been on camera today. Not to mention the anti-air tech on top of apartment buildings... I think they went a little overboard there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 That one episode in Doctor Who where Ten meets Five and fixes the TARDIS, and he only knew to do that because as 5 he lived through this moment and remembered 10 doing it. In other words, he knew how to do something because he saw his future self do it. His future self could do it because he remembered seeing himself do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 [quote name='Greiga te Jalokia' timestamp='1346482758' post='6017136'] That one episode in Doctor Who where Ten meets Five and fixes the TARDIS, and he only knew to do that because as 5 he lived through this moment and remembered 10 doing it. In other words, he knew how to do something because he saw his future self do it. His future self could do it because he remembered seeing himself do it. [/quote] I don't that this counts. It's a stable time paradox. I mean, you can look at the Doctor Who episode 'Blink' or the shortie viewable on Youtube called 'Time'. There are tons of DW examples. And technically, I believe time paradoxes always have a source. It's just a matter of doing something stupid in the first layer of time, and watch as a cycle is accidentally created in the next few layers and so on and so forth. A circulatory theory on the other hand, is also a paradox, but of LOGIC. Not TIME. An indisprovable theory. Personally I'm a Christian, but you can look at the Flying Spaghetti Monster or the Invisible Pink Unicorn for examples. Let's say [b]reality is false.[/b] This theory is indisprovable because if reality is false, then all the laws of logic are also false. They can tell you that 'you think therefore you are', but if reality is false, then that would mean that their statements are all false and they honestly can't do anything to disprove you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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