Asriel Dreemurr Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Jesus Christ I am behind. Also, wanna know my only real goal in this at this point? Make sure Clarice doesn't survive. Unfortunately Alexi doesn't know about the pies so I can't exactly justify any actions against her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ListenToLife Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 [quote]But it's only natural, it's impossible to create solid matter out of thin air; this is a law of magic.[/quote] I OPPOSE THIS! Theoretically, if Magic is merely the Telekinetic manipulation of Atoms & Molecules in the surrounding environment, then it is perfectly justified for someone to summon things out of thin air, suffice they are knowledgable enough in the molecular structure of said item (Diamond isn't that complicated a structure; it's merely a massive Covalent Carbon Structure) and have the concentration and energy required to manipulate the organisation and order of these elements, and the conversion of one element to another if necessary (a particularly difficult task, I would think, as it would require the removal and addition of protons from one element to another) But yeah, I wouldn't say it's impossible. Just difficult enough to the point where it isn't really considered as a viable option, especially when the manipulation of existing Elements is much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asriel Dreemurr Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 To clarify, Alexi never actually unleashed his breath weapon. He even went along on this whole spiel to the Guard in lieu of out right attacking him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted November 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 @DaWeirdGuy: What you say is true. In fact Vanir and Aesir's magic were more or less exactly what you stated (changing the molecular structure into something else), but that's not what I mean. I didn't mean 'thin air' per se, but absolutely nothing. You can't create an atom or molecule out of an absence of matter or energy. I mean, sure, if you want, you can take already-existing matter, scramble up the atoms, and then put together the protons and electrons to create an entirely new element, but it's just that; you're using things that already exist. You could even put together loads of energy and convert them into matter. But let's say there's no energy or matter around. Let's say you're a superpowered immortal godlike magician aspiring to create his own universe. So he flies, goes out into space, rides comets, goes all the way to the edge of the universe and then exits, bringing him in this absolute nothing where absolutely no matter or energy exists at all. What then? Apart from himself and the comet he rode there, there is absolutely nothing. If he wanted to make his own universe, he would have to steal energy and matter from the already-existing one. So the answer is, nothing. He cannot create his own universe without taking out a chunk of the original universe. So if he wanted his own universe, he would have to reenter the original universe, use up the energy and matter already existing in it, exit again, and then use up all this taken energy and matter to build his own universe. That's technically what you're referring to. He cannot simply enter the emptiness beyond the universe and then shout ABRA KADABRA, creating matter out of nothing. Not even a single atom, without sacrificing something that already exists. .... That's a pretty extreme example, but that's how it is. A law of magic. To defy that and actually achieve it would make oneself a god, able to create their own universe out of nothing where the superpowered immortal godlike magician could not. Our magic is still limited to the realm of reality, but 'true' magic is defying the laws. Let's say there's this sorcerer who, the more mana he burns up, the more mana he gains. That's true magic. As is creating matter out of nothing, creating something unaffected by entropy, reversing entropy, recovering things that don't exist anymore such as bringing someone who got vaporized by a laser beam back to life (without using time travel), and creating a new color. Note that dimension hopping and time travel is still possible, albeit ridiculous, impossible, and perhaps even impractical. @Ketodama: he didn't? Sorry, from your past, it looked as though he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ListenToLife Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 [quote name='Merciful Idiot' timestamp='1352481771' post='6064833'] @DaWeirdGuy: What you say is true. In fact Vanir and Aesir's magic were more or less exactly what you stated (changing the molecular structure into something else), but that's not what I mean. I didn't mean 'thin air' per se, but absolutely nothing. You can't create an atom or molecule out of an absence of matter or energy. I mean, sure, if you want, you can take already-existing matter, scramble up the atoms, and then put together the protons and electrons to create an entirely new element, but it's just that; you're using things that already exist. You could even put together loads of energy and convert them into matter. But let's say there's no energy or matter around. Let's say you're a superpowered immortal godlike magician aspiring to create his own universe. So he flies, goes out into space, rides comets, goes all the way to the edge of the universe and then exits, bringing him in this absolute nothing where absolutely no matter or energy exists at all. What then? Apart from himself and the comet he rode there, there is absolutely nothing. If he wanted to make his own universe, he would have to steal energy and matter from the already-existing one. So the answer is, nothing. He cannot create his own universe without taking out a chunk of the original universe. So if he wanted his own universe, he would have to reenter the original universe, use up the energy and matter already existing in it, exit again, and then use up all this taken energy and matter to build his own universe. That's technically what you're referring to. He cannot simply enter the emptiness beyond the universe and then shout ABRA KADABRA, creating matter out of nothing. Not even a single atom, without sacrificing something that already exists. .... That's a pretty extreme example, but that's how it is. A law of magic. To defy that and actually achieve it would make oneself a god, able to create their own universe out of nothing where the superpowered immortal godlike magician could not. Our magic is still limited to the realm of reality, but 'true' magic is defying the laws. Let's say there's this sorcerer who, the more mana he burns up, the more mana he gains. That's true magic. As is creating matter out of nothing, creating something unaffected by entropy, reversing entropy, recovering things that don't exist anymore such as bringing someone who got vaporized by a laser beam back to life (without using time travel), and creating a new color. Note that dimension hopping and time travel is still possible, albeit ridiculous, impossible, and perhaps even impractical. @Ketodama: he didn't? Sorry, from your past, it looked as though he did. [/quote] Yes, I'm agreeing with you. What I'm referring to is how there were elements around Aesir, and yet he had to draw from his shield. I would make it more of this being his inexperience rather than the laws of magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted November 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Well, he did say that Vanir was his -older- brother, after all. If you're referring to trying to diamonize the air, it would've taken too long. Notice how he had to refrain from the battlefield for about five to ten minutes to convert the grunt armor and his long hair into diamonds. Liquid takes longer than solid, and air longer than liquid. Vanir's better with that stuff anyway. Did you notice how he redirected Alexi's 'diamond dust' to prevent himself from being frozen? That's because that he's different from his brother, he can also control any kind of crystal. Yeah, he's a lot more formidable opponent, but he kept being flung about so much without being given even a single minute of preparation, plus he had to go up against [i]Alexi [/i]of all people, whose armor was built by elves to combat comets, plus an elf, vampire prince, and human assassin for support. Poor Vanir was never given a chance to show off his true power. If it was Vanir who had faced Lyon, let's just say he would've been a hell load more formidable as an opponent....but there's no need to talk about him since he's dead. In the original Legend Blood, Vanir fought against an alternate being similar to the Lord of Chaos and successfully took off his mask before being killed. That's saying something. He always seems to be pitted against monstrous opponents. In truth, diamond magic is pretty impractical for battle. It's better suited as a job, like how both brothers could've made a ridiculous amount of money selling diamond items. After all, diamond itself is hard to gather in sufficient amounts, let alone hard to shape, and is pretty much the hardest material ever. If they weren't so caught up in fighting, then they could've provided diamond bullets to all the machine gunners, which could theoretically pierce almost any barrier. Had they done that, our assault would've failed before it could even meet the ground troops. Anyway, after Vanir's death, he's left a LOT of diamond scattered about on the ground. Can you imagine just how many carats it would take to build full-body armor, sword, and shield (which became a knife)? That's a lot of money right there. His hair could also be ripped off his corpse. Sell it all, or take the sword/knife as weapon~ feel free to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love of Ghibli Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Well that will add to Clarice's epilogue if no one snatches that up. Though curious where is Adrian during all of these shenanigans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted November 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 He's getting drunk in Lord Elnaer's human blood stash for preparation, I guess. By the way, guys, Elnaer wakes in sixty seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love of Ghibli Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 So a fresh piece of meat was just tossed Clarice's way hmmm how shall this be dealt with lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ListenToLife Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Adrian shall be somewhere soon. I've just been VERY busy for a while. Not to mention writers block. Tomorrow shall reveal what Adrian is doing, I should hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted November 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Ah, writer's block. You know, I used to get it all the time, but then I solved that problem by adding in meaningless things which I then went on to expand and expand... Lord Elnaer's plan keeps changing here and there, by the way. At the beginning of the RP, I had absolutely no idea what it was going to be. The only thing that was certain was that it was going to be related to elves and the full moon. I first thought of it as an instant kill-em-all spell that would be cast by reflecting from the moon, but that would be too Naruto-esque. Then, as Glan came along, I thought that it would be something that would distinguish vampires and humans less, like crashing the moon into Lath with elven powers, but I decided that such a thing wouldn't achieve much. Finally, as time went on and characters appeared, each showcasing their awesome powers, I built his plan all together. With Glan's convenient hybridism, Feredir's elven powers in a world millenniums after his own, Kaname's modification of Shanna, I finally have an 'Elnaer's plan of human extinction' that I'm satisfied with, that also fits in with my image of this RP's final boss. You'll see what it is soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asriel Dreemurr Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 [quote name='Beginning446' timestamp='1352533602' post='6065492'] So a fresh piece of meat was just tossed Clarice's way hmmm how shall this be dealt with lol [/quote] With Clarice dying a horribly painful death? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love of Ghibli Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 [quote name='Ketodama' timestamp='1352664264' post='6066650'] With Clarice dying a horribly painful death? [/quote] You know your random hate/butthurt on Clarice is getting creepy. I don't know why nor do I particularly care but lets just get this out the way now. Clarice isn't dying, she isn't going to die, in fact multiple facets of her ending have already been agreed upon. And since she's a playable character controlled by me, I would have some say so in her death. Which now, more than ever, isn't happening because you and I'll be honest only you seem to be so fixed on the notion. Like I said I don't where this coming from once again seeing as I've hated characters before (Glan or Gian or w/e his hybrid bipolar name was) but not to this extent. On the bright I take slight joy in knowing that my fictional character can invoke this much malice from a person. I will say that's mission accomplished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted November 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 All your characters invoke quite a bit of malice from everyone, actually. It's probably just because they're such powerful individuals. A bit like robots or viruses, never reacting much to external stimuli... But yeah, everyone cut out on the Clarice hate. If you wanna hate her, do it in-universe. Thank you. [quote] So a fresh piece of meat was just tossed Clarice's way hmmm how shall this be dealt with lol [/quote] o-o" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love of Ghibli Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 [quote name='Merciful Idiot' timestamp='1352695860' post='6067255'] All your characters invoke quite a bit of malice from everyone, actually. It's probably just because they're such powerful individuals. A bit like robots or viruses, never reacting much to external stimuli... But yeah, everyone cut out on the Clarice hate. If you wanna hate her, do it in-universe. Thank you. o-o" [/quote] Out of all the characters I've made only three were intentional douchebags (Dorian, Clarice, Brighton) and yeah I'm not counting the pimp because that RP was bad in general. So outside of those three I don't see how any of the characters I make are so hate worthy. I guess I'm getting defensive because it sounds like my characters are bad because they have self confidence and self worth. Oh and as for the piece of meat...I should've said pie stuffing lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted November 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 HAHAHA, you see that? I just gave entropy magic, a potentially gamebreaking magic, to a random mook. And now he's dead. Too bad he discovered it too late. By the way, I won't start John's showdown with Elnaer until Magnet Soldier and ClearAngel post. Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asriel Dreemurr Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 [quote name='Merciful Idiot' timestamp='1352735030' post='6067485'] HAHAHA, you see that? I just gave entropy magic, a potentially gamebreaking magic, to a random mook. And now he's dead. Too bad he discovered it too late. [/quote] Well, time for the scientist in Alexi to come out. For the record that last anti-Clarice post was more poking fun at my own dislike of the character than actually expressing a desire to see her die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ListenToLife Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 I'll post tomorrow. It'll be my main focus. Definitely as Adrian. Possibly as Feredir, starting up a conversation with Luis but sensing the magic gathering, and knowing that the situation is intense, therefore rushing towards the scene, expecting the others to follow. (After all, Piercer seems to have vanished. >.>) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted November 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Everyone seems to have vanished. It might just be because of the weekdays though, so I can patiently wait through the next four days. No need to rush this RP, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gαr Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 I've been waiting for DWG to post, so I can make Ed do something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a bad post Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Well I hath posted, so I guess we just wait for DWG to post and the long awaited final battle shall start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piercer of the Heavens Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Waiting for DWG as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted November 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 I guess I'm waiting on him as well .-. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love of Ghibli Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 [quote name='Merciful Idiot' timestamp='1352806458' post='6068137'] I guess I'm waiting on him as well .-. [/quote] Well its not like you haven't been in this position before with other RP's lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted November 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Riiighlt. Come to think of it, you need to wait on him too since Clarice is looking for Adrian. So, five people waiting on one guy. I feel sorry for Magnet-san. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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